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I mean, COME ON, Swissy, even you have to admit there's no way you typed that whole sentence while keeping a straight face. |
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05-02-2018, 09:13 AM | #123 |
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That's what I'm getting at. There was never a really good time to put it on him during his run. The gave him a run with Hogan and it drew poorly.
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05-02-2018, 09:15 AM | #124 |
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05-02-2018, 09:37 AM | #125 |
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I also think he was friends with Bret backstage....or at the very least he took Bret's side...may have been a factor.
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05-02-2018, 09:39 AM | #126 |
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Starrcade 97. Lost WCW the war
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05-02-2018, 09:46 AM | #127 |
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They had a really good one-two with their Starrcades. First they fuck up Sting, then they do Goldberg in. It's incredible how fast they dropped in '99.
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05-02-2018, 10:41 PM | #128 |
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Starrcade 97.. thanks a lot Hogan
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05-02-2018, 11:01 PM | #129 |
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Sting deserves 97% of that blame
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05-02-2018, 11:09 PM | #130 |
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Dan Severn
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05-02-2018, 11:12 PM | #131 |
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05-03-2018, 06:55 AM | #132 |
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Trish Stratus getting her implants out.
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05-03-2018, 09:10 AM | #133 |
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05-03-2018, 09:32 AM | #134 |
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Yeah came in fat and got blown up right out of the gate. Hogan carried him through that nightmare of a match. (Still contend that that match is the most influential match of all time ftr.)
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05-03-2018, 09:42 AM | #135 |
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Meh. Just protect the guy. You've invested so much time into the storyline. Make it a 5 minute semi-squash. It's what the people wanted.
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05-03-2018, 09:46 AM | #136 |
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lol no. That wouldnt have worked. People paid for a main event.
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05-03-2018, 09:49 AM | #137 |
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They wanted to see Sting fuck up Hogan. You literally had the guy single-handedly beat the shit out of the nWo for 18 months. They'd have been happy. Happier than requiring 46 year old lazy fucking Hogan "carry" a match. At best it'd be a success. At worst the lesser of two evils.
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05-03-2018, 09:50 AM | #138 |
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And I'll double down. 10 minute semi-squash. Hogan did them as a babyface in main events for years.
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05-03-2018, 09:51 AM | #139 |
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I mean it's Sting's fault in that he left himself open to get fucked by Hogan. It's not like Hogan's gonna go "Brother! we need to protect the Stinger even though he's not in shape, we'll do a 10 minute semi-squash and I'll give 3/4s of the match to sting and he can no-sell my shit". He's obviously going to leverage Sting not being in shape as much as he can to keep himself on top.
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05-03-2018, 10:17 AM | #140 |
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In 97 that wouldnt have worked. 10 min main events would have had drunken crowds throwing trash into the ring.
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05-03-2018, 10:18 AM | #141 |
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This was the most hyped match ever and you're wanting it to be a huge let down to protect it from being a huge let down.
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05-03-2018, 10:20 AM | #142 |
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WCW fans threw trash in the ring regardless of what happened.
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05-03-2018, 10:22 AM | #143 |
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Hogan/Andre went about 10 minutes with a 6 minute bear hug.
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05-03-2018, 10:24 AM | #144 |
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05-03-2018, 10:32 AM | #145 |
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You honestly think people want to see Hogan wrestle for more than 10 minutes? They wanted the finish and they wanted Sting to beat the hell out of Hogan. Believe me, they'd have been happy with that.
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05-03-2018, 10:33 AM | #146 |
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Not sure how this isn't a TNA EARTHSHATTERING ANNOUNCEMENT thread.
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05-03-2018, 10:35 AM | #147 |
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How can anything about TNA be a letdown really?
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05-03-2018, 10:36 AM | #148 | |
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Sting/Hogan to me, personally, is still the match that I felt the most "hype" over ever. It was like the biggest thing ever. The intros were great, with Sting and his laser show thing and the half dissolves to Hogan...... If Sting had just gone in there and wrecked Hogan, I would have been jumping up and down in joy. |
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05-03-2018, 06:17 PM | #149 |
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Goldberg was putting on 10 minute main event matches less than a year later and the crowd what white fucking hot. Sting should've been in better shape, but he also should've stream rolled Hogan. The crowd would've eaten it up.
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05-03-2018, 06:22 PM | #150 |
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Seriously, the Monday Night War was not an era of 5 star main event matches. The majority of people watching tuned in for the characters and the drama.
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05-03-2018, 06:40 PM | #151 |
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Honestly I wouldn't have even had Stinger take his jacket off. Keep the mystique alive.
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05-03-2018, 06:41 PM | #152 |
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Hindsight being 20/20 of course.
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05-03-2018, 07:29 PM | #153 |
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Yeah fair point, the whole match was weird right off the bat... the finish just capped it off
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05-04-2018, 05:57 AM | #154 |
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I'm with Dale on this one. Really feels like people just wanted to see Hogan finally get his. A completely one-sided affair would have been appropriately cathartic and would have been surreal to see Hogan the victim of at that point in time.
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05-04-2018, 06:02 AM | #155 |
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05-04-2018, 07:42 AM | #156 |
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That would be the equivalent of booking a 5 minute squash in the main event of Wrestlemania. Hell, they had Sheamus beat Bryan in 38 seconds and people still piss and moan about that.
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05-04-2018, 10:25 AM | #157 | |
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Honestly, 10 minutes, 3/4s Sting offence, some bells and whistles and it'd have been great. Crowd would have eaten it up. Especially with the way the feud was built... it was clear Stinger had Hogan's number. You and I both know Hogan would have found any reason not to do business the right way. Sadly, Sting gave him the reason. |
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05-04-2018, 10:26 AM | #158 |
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And a 10 minute pseudo-squash is not the same as an 18 second match that leaves the fans feeling cheated.
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05-04-2018, 10:40 AM | #159 |
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Yeah, it's about what you're paying for. I watched WrestleMania 28, much like WrestleMania 27, sincerely, because I wanted to see Daniel Bryan wrestle. They cheated me both times. I would have watched Starrcade '97 to see Sting kick Hogan's ass and some closure to this nWo shit.
But weirdly enough, I was just thinking about Mania 28, and I actually thought of it as the WWE's Starrcade '97. I think at some point in history, when people are looking back over the WWE and where it went wrong, they're going to see that moment as a point in history where the fans started to set their own perception that the product had to play catch-up to. It's heralded as this moment that got Bryan suoper-popular, but I think the Catch-22 is going to become more and more evident and the cons are going to outweight the pros when the history books are written. |
05-05-2018, 12:15 AM | #160 |
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TNA succeeding is way scarier than them f****** up because you'll start to enjoy it it's like being depressed all the time and you're used to it then when you feel happy the crash is just going to be that much harder.
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