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Old 01-30-2018, 11:03 PM   #321
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Don't forget about Trevor "Ricochet" Mann.
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Old 01-30-2018, 11:10 PM   #322
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Rico Shay bypassing NXT would be interesting.

Wonder what "class" he got put in. Apparently there are four levels.

Beginner: Robbie Brookside
Medium: Scotty Too Hotty
Advanced: Steve Corino
Finishing: Shawn Michaels and Terry Taylor

They've put plenty of indy dudes into the beginner class and had them work their way up. Feel like Ricochet will fly through quickly regardless.
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Old 01-30-2018, 11:11 PM   #323
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TJP beat Tyler Bate.
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Itami/Roderick Strong next week
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Damn, good match.
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Old 01-30-2018, 11:14 PM   #326
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TJP beat Tyler Bate.
There's nothing wrong with that. You should have known from the promo that TJP was gonna win.
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Oh shit, Roddy. That match could be dope.
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Old 01-30-2018, 11:47 PM   #328
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There's nothing wrong with that. You should have known from the promo that TJP was gonna win.
Match itself was good, just wasn't a fan of the end result. Might have been TJP's best match since the CWC Finals.

TJP had his pre-match promo but felt WWE missed a really good opportunity by not having Bate win.
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Bate doesn't need the Cruiserweight title. He's got that whole UK thing going on.
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...or whatever's happening with that. What's happening with that?
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TJP winning makes sense unless they were going to have Bate full time 205 Live guy.

Or I guess they could have eliminated Bate in the second round and done a story with TJP where he snaps and becomes a badass submission machine because he won the last tournament he was in but lost in the first round in this one.
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Old 01-31-2018, 12:32 AM   #332
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Wonder if Sami and Owens are going to have a "Nope" catchphrase in the future considering they already mocked Bryan's "YES" movement one.
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Old 01-31-2018, 12:34 AM   #333
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So, we went from a U.S. title tournament.

To Bobby Roode winning and having a U.S. Open Challenge at the Rumble.

Now we got a fatal 4-way for a shot to face Roode.

Okay.
It's almost like an entire team of writers don't know what the fuck they're doing with a whole pool of talent and a midcard belt.
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Old 01-31-2018, 12:38 AM   #334
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Bate doesn't need the Cruiserweight title. He's got that whole UK thing going on.
Yeah wouldn't have him win the tournament either but at least win his first match or two depending on how the bracket looks. A lot more beneficial to Bate and WWE's UK division than whatever the payoff to TJP's run will be considering he's arguably been a bust as a big star in the division.

Also legit thought Spudd/Maverick said a "60-man tournament" at first because the way he said the number 16.
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Old 01-31-2018, 12:48 AM   #335
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TJP is a geek and putting over the geeks in the tournament is probably not the best idea. They need to press forward with people that actually have a hope. Hideo is still pretty fresh, Roddy is fresh, Tyler is fresh. They should be owning the only stages of this tournament. Pete Dunne is fresh within that cruiserweight context, he could be doing the same thing. If they wanted to get Johnny Gargano and Tommaso Ciampa, they could do that too -- they're probably the guys people care most about and are going to half-way follow. That's 6 of your 8 guys. Gulak seems to do well and Jack Gallagher has always worked to a certain degree, but if you want to push a former champ, give Tozawa a first round win.

That belt is so fucking dead it needs to be contested by people that the fans somewhat kind of haven't been conditioned to think of as geeks. I'd argue that Gulak might be too far gone. You can say that Dolph Ziggler has lost weight and is entering the tournament. Maybe Mark Andrews who hasn't been exposed? Let's go with Dolph, because why the fuck not?

* Johnny Gargano defeats Drew Gulak.

* Roderick Strong defeats Jack Gallager.

* Tommaso Ciampa beats Gran Metalik.

* Cedric Alexander beats Tony Nese.

* Pete Dunne beats Kalisto.

* Tyler Bate beats TJP.

* Hideo Itami beats Mustafa Ali.

* Dolph Ziggler beats Akira Tozawa.

Whatever, something like that. I haven't given it that much thought.

* Gargano beats Strong.

* Ciampa beats Alexander.

* Bate beats Dunne (UK Title not on the line).

* Ziggler beats Itami.

* Gargano beats Ciampa.

* Ziggler beats Bate.

* Gargano beats Ziggler and becomes the new Cruiserweight Champion.
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Now book it where Renee Young wins the tournament and becomes the new cruiserweight champion.
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Honestly, she's more believable than some of the guys.
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Old 01-31-2018, 01:53 AM   #338
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These pop ups are starting to get under my skin a bit
About as much as that "selfie cam" backstage promo shit that was happening all over RAW. It was one thing as a advertisement of sorts for the Mixed Tag Challenge to put it over as a thing on the internet. As a personal touch to someone like Miz, it works. As a new thing they do for ERRYGODDAMNBODY, it looks cheap and forced and absolutely overdone.

This appears to be the Smackdown answer to that. Both ideas are kind of a lead balloon.

Oddly enough, as cringy as the "ROCKSTAR" thing was, it would have worked (albeit slightly) better as a vid snippet if they were still doing actual titantron vids for everyone instead of just throwing a name up on the big screen. Just doing it randomly makes as much sense as shitty CGI prison doors... oh, wait.

Just spend that money on some damn pyro.
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I'm thinking about where wrestlers are from, because it's more interesting than actually watching WWE. I've always wondered if the kayfabe of Yokozuna being Japanese persists into the modern era. I think Cole said something at the Rumble about Yoko being Reigns' cousin. So I guess the idea that Yokozuna is Japanese has been retconned.
Until it is convenient. The idea that Kane and Undertaker are still "brothers" persisted even though the whole "brothers who aren't really brothers are stupid, stop saying that" era in WWE.

Pretty sure that at some point in future, Yoko will be "Japanese" again to serve some purpose in putting someone over. Like, perhaps, Shinsuke being the "first Japanese world champion in WWE since Yokozuna" or somesuch.
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I just saw the Usos promo and Shinsuke entrance.

Holy shit that's awful... Did Kevin Dunn just find out what After Effects is?
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Alright, I just looked up the Usos promo. What the fuck.
Somebody got sentimental about the fact Impact quit the Lockdown PPV
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Just a few ideas about what I've read about and watched.
With the 205 tournament, as much as I was gutted to see Bate lose, it was probably the right call. Bate will be taken off TV long enough for it not to matter too much and TJP won by cheating. Plus with his wearing his British Strong Style pants I really think they should be used as a tag team in NXT.
I can see Dunne being another surprise entrant and getting towards the semis.

I'm hoping that we are not leading to a break up of friendship with Sami and Owens, Samis work has been strong as a heel and if they give a longer build up to the eventual split then it would play off much better.

Braun is just gold at the moment, he doesn't need the title to be as popular as he is as nice as that would be.
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Who is Bate?
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So Ziggler quit a few weeks ago. He as the #30 entrant in the Rumble which prompted an uninterested "didn't he retire or something?" from Cole. Then he wasn't acknowledged or mentioned in any way on SmackDown.

I said it in the Rumble thread but I'm certain Ziggler's entire WWE career is a rib on him at this point.
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Seriously I can't get over this.

Dolph Ziggler threw a tantrum and stormed out, nobody gave a fuck, so he came back hoping for everyone to say "OH MY GOD, we missed you!", and nobody gave a fuck.

It's the most Dolph Ziggler thing ever, and if it's not intentional it's the greatest rib of all time.
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Who is Bate?
Tyler Bate , he was the first WWE UK champion and had what many regard as the match of last year with Pete Dunne, myself included.
He was on 205 live last night fighting TJP in the new tournament.
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What's this about Nakamura's entrance? I watched it and I didn't notice anything off (except for how they still won't let him time his role thingy to the music and it sucks)
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TJP is a geek and putting over the geeks in the tournament is probably not the best idea. They need to press forward with people that actually have a hope. Hideo is still pretty fresh, Roddy is fresh, Tyler is fresh. They should be owning the only stages of this tournament. Pete Dunne is fresh within that cruiserweight context, he could be doing the same thing. If they wanted to get Johnny Gargano and Tommaso Ciampa, they could do that too -- they're probably the guys people care most about and are going to half-way follow. That's 6 of your 8 guys. Gulak seems to do well and Jack Gallagher has always worked to a certain degree, but if you want to push a former champ, give Tozawa a first round win.

That belt is so fucking dead it needs to be contested by people that the fans somewhat kind of haven't been conditioned to think of as geeks. I'd argue that Gulak might be too far gone. You can say that Dolph Ziggler has lost weight and is entering the tournament. Maybe Mark Andrews who hasn't been exposed? Let's go with Dolph, because why the fuck not?

* Johnny Gargano defeats Drew Gulak.

* Roderick Strong defeats Jack Gallager.

* Tommaso Ciampa beats Gran Metalik.

* Cedric Alexander beats Tony Nese.

* Pete Dunne beats Kalisto.

* Tyler Bate beats TJP.

* Hideo Itami beats Mustafa Ali.

* Dolph Ziggler beats Akira Tozawa.

Whatever, something like that. I haven't given it that much thought.

* Gargano beats Strong.

* Ciampa beats Alexander.

* Bate beats Dunne (UK Title not on the line).

* Ziggler beats Itami.

* Gargano beats Ciampa.

* Ziggler beats Bate.

* Gargano beats Ziggler and becomes the new Cruiserweight Champion.
Why do you keep saying Alexander v. Nese? That's not a first round match. I know this is a fantasy book, but you said it earlier too.
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Nah, he bulked up.
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Oh... my... God...

I actually cringed.
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Yeah, the ROCKSTAR shit was terrible and jarring

Didn't mind the words popping up during promos as much even if it was a bit weird
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I watched the Usos promo when it was mentioned and it completely made them look stupid. THIS though...

It seriously is like Kevin Dunn just learned something that teenagers who make Youtube videos don't use for the sake of not making their video look too cheesy.

If someone took a video of Nakamura's entrance and edited that in as a joke to make fun of WWE's lack of self-awareness and subtlety it would actually be funny. They're basically becoming a parody of themselves.
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