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Old 09-11-2015, 11:11 PM   #19161
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I feel the US Title is more prestigious right now.
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Old 09-11-2015, 11:17 PM   #19162
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And thats the problem if another world title is introduced. There's always going to be people that feel one is better than the other. The US title has been booked great this year but its always going to be a secondary title.
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Old 09-11-2015, 11:30 PM   #19163
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That's the same with any title in the world though.
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Old 09-11-2015, 11:36 PM   #19164
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I was just talking about in the "WWE Universe", how much sense does it make to have 2 World champions in WWE ?
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Old 09-11-2015, 11:49 PM   #19165
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It does if there's two separate promotions under the WWE umbrella. But it doesn't if there's one brand.
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Old 09-12-2015, 12:58 AM   #19166
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Old 09-12-2015, 12:59 AM   #19167
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It does if there's two separate promotions under the WWE umbrella. But it doesn't if there's one brand.
2 brands just comes off as being fake.
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Old 09-12-2015, 01:24 AM   #19168
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It depends how you execute it.
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Old 09-12-2015, 01:24 AM   #19169
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The WWE have achieved it just fine with the main roster and NXT.
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Old 09-12-2015, 01:31 AM   #19170
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It does if there's two separate promotions under the WWE umbrella. But it doesn't if there's one brand.
Two seperate promotions is cool but Raw will always be the top show. So Smackdown should just become the place for guys not yet ready for the main roster but to seasond for NXT.
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Old 09-12-2015, 01:53 AM   #19171
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That's one way to do it. Another way is to give it to someone with a great past of heating things up -- whether that be a Paul Heyman or a Ryan Ward -- and they handle it and try and take it to a reputable level of its own.
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Old 09-12-2015, 12:11 PM   #19172
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Had a dream that Jason Jordan and Chad Gable were called up as Team Swagger, and they all had sweet matching track-suits....
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Old 09-12-2015, 12:28 PM   #19173
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So your dreaming of them to fail?
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In the dream Swagger was suddenly a main event player again....
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Old 09-12-2015, 02:01 PM   #19175
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They started "brawling"/"cat fighting" and the ref tried to break it up but couldn't..... Team BAD and the rest of PCB and a bunch of other refs came to break it up as well...

But Paige and Sasha kept breaking free to take shots at each other... Thought that part was "cool", but the initial "brawl" looked too much like the "stereotypical" "cat fight"....
Right, but it was in the middle of a fucking match. Why was the ref trying to break it up? There hadn't even been a decision yet.
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He just wanted to get in the middle of that sandwich
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Old 09-12-2015, 02:56 PM   #19178
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Eva Marie is so hot, but she is so not good at wrestling.
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Old 09-12-2015, 08:08 PM   #19179
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Eva Marie looks like she was designed by video game programmers. I mean that in a good way.
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Old 09-12-2015, 08:09 PM   #19180
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You know, if Eva Marie surrounded herself by a gang of women who could help her believably win matches, she could be female wrestling's Ric Flair. No, not in terms of talent, but in presentation and character.
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When Kurt Angle's contract expires, I'd like to see him as the coach to Jordan & Gable.
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Old 09-12-2015, 08:20 PM   #19182
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The un-nature girl
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Old 09-12-2015, 08:27 PM   #19183
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There is way to use "Unnatural" to enhance her someway.
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Old 09-12-2015, 10:18 PM   #19184
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Eva Marie is so hot, but she is so not good at wrestling.
I agree with half of this. Specifically the second half.

She doesn't do it for me. Looks too "fake". And I don't mean her funbags in particular, just... period. She looks like if you build a CAW with exaggerated features and colors and put them in a match with a fully scanned and rendered selection from the roster... and somehow made this possible in real life. I find Maryse way better looking, and many can attest to, I was never one on *that* bandwagon of drooling over her either.

But that is subjective. What's objective is that she is an utter shitshow between the ropes, and needs to be far away from a widely viewed wrestling ring for a good long time unless they just transition her into a simple arm charm.
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The WWE have achieved it just fine with the main roster and NXT.
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Two seperate promotions is cool but Raw will always be the top show. So Smackdown should just become the place for guys not yet ready for the main roster but to seasond for NXT.
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That's one way to do it. Another way is to give it to someone with a great past of heating things up -- whether that be a Paul Heyman or a Ryan Ward -- and they handle it and try and take it to a reputable level of its own.
Yeah, there was a time when Smackdown became the "can't miss" show, and RAW was same shit different week, and the championship that was on SD (remember, at one point they swapped the WWE and "big gold belt" as THE championship of the show).

The belts are only as prestigious as they are presented to be. Doesn't matter if there are 3 or 12, if they lack ANY focus, or are handled like shit, they fall off. Look how long it took for the Tag Team titles to go from worthless props back to *some* prominence in the last decade. In spite of how toy-like it looks making people sneer at it, the Divas Championship often becomes a joke because most of the women who hold it can't wrestle well, and the women who CAN wrestle well aren't put anywhere near it.
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Fuck that. Just scrap this whole "Team (blank)" nonsense, and put the 4 Horsewomen together on the main roster. Yes, even with Bayley holding the NXT Women's Championship.
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Old 09-12-2015, 11:02 PM   #19187
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Eva Marie is fucking magic. Look at the sweet moves during her entrance just before the bell rings.

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She was just about to do YMCA for the crowd, but like a great heel - just teased it. Can't wait for the TPWW servers to break when she beats Bayley clean for the title.
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Old 09-13-2015, 02:43 AM   #19188
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Well, that is IF she ever improves enough to the point of deserving to be anywhere NEAR the NXT Women's Championship contenders scene.

Also, I agree with Guycott on Eva's looks; she's not ugly really, she just doesn't do anything for me. The implants and the stupid bright red hair don't help matters, either.
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Old 09-13-2015, 02:52 AM   #19189
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I can see why some people like her look, doesn't do anything for me personally.
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Old 09-13-2015, 05:17 AM   #19190
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Eva Marie makes Kelly Kelly look like a ring general.
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Old 09-13-2015, 06:12 AM   #19191
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Eva Marie is not attractive to me AT ALL. She is worthless imo
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Old 09-13-2015, 07:36 AM   #19192
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Old 09-13-2015, 07:40 AM   #19193
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Eva Marie is fucking magic. Look at the sweet moves during her entrance just before the bell rings.

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She was just about to do YMCA for the crowd, but like a great heel - just teased it. Can't wait for the TPWW servers to break when she beats Bayley clean for the title.
I'm relatively sure she won't win the title from Bayley
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Old 09-13-2015, 12:10 PM   #19194
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I must be the only one that thinks she can pass as Caitlyn Jenner's twin.
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Old 09-13-2015, 01:08 PM   #19195
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Eva Marie makes Kelly Kelly look like a ring general.
I was just thinking about her. What they are trying to do with Eva is what maybe I think they did with Kelly Kelly and I think she actually improved a lot in her title run against Beth Phoenix. I think they also did it with Layla after Michelle retired and you could see Layla improved right before winning the title. The only difference is that they were successes and Eva so far is not. I feel like she's really not comfortable in the ring and in front of the crowd. She needs to pull out a Rock-esque heel post "die Rocky die" chants.
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Old 09-13-2015, 01:37 PM   #19196
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They need to keep her off tv. Why they don't see value in letting her work matches with the same girls but in an environment where there's no pressure to entertain is beyond me. They're forcing her into the ring way too early.

What's sad is she's actually improved quite a bit but because she was so atrocious to start with even her improved self isn't very good. Also doesn't help that she doesn't seem any bit athletic at all.

They should just get her off tv asap and let her work matches off camera for a long time.
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Just wait until she busts out a series of suplexes and submissions capped off by a springboard shooting star press. All while on her period.

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Old 09-13-2015, 02:23 PM   #19198
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Yeah, that's DEFINITELY not happening. Only thing she needs to win is a one-way ticket permanently out of WWE.
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Old 09-13-2015, 06:55 PM   #19199
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