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11-06-2017, 10:14 PM | #121 |
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Konnor started in developmental 12 years ago. What's he been worth? And then he gets to go home to Krissy Vaine. Unbelievable.
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11-06-2017, 10:15 PM | #122 |
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11-06-2017, 10:15 PM | #123 | |
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Last time someone actually managed to out-power Vince was with the Sasha-Charlotte Cell match. Think Vince didn't want it in the Cell, fought against them doing any big spots, and didn't want it as the main event. Resulted in a lot of backlash within management that he actually relented. |
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11-06-2017, 10:16 PM | #124 | |
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Baron Corbin And let's not forget, he's stuck with a tag team partner 1000000x worse than he will ever be. Plus a former tag partner, both of whom were/are the Jannetty in those pairings. |
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11-06-2017, 10:21 PM | #125 | |
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Oddly enough, Vince was right about that Cell. |
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11-06-2017, 10:23 PM | #126 |
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Hmm..this could be interesting
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11-06-2017, 10:25 PM | #127 |
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Best wrestler named Pete.
Dunne or Gas |
11-06-2017, 10:26 PM | #128 | |
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Even if I did give you those names, you've gotten to 3. There are like 100 people on the roster. He's still in the bottom 10% and you're saying he deserves a main event run? |
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11-06-2017, 10:26 PM | #129 |
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11-06-2017, 10:27 PM | #130 |
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11-06-2017, 10:27 PM | #131 |
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Mean Street Posse can probably work better than half the roster now, to be honest.
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11-06-2017, 10:28 PM | #132 |
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Pete Dunne needs a tag partner last name Well
Well Dunne again |
11-06-2017, 10:29 PM | #133 |
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Pete Dunne needs no other human company.
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11-06-2017, 10:33 PM | #134 |
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11-06-2017, 10:33 PM | #135 |
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Yeah only because WWE didn't have it as a feud ender and he still managed to get some restrictions placed on the match.
The build to the match took a sharp downturn roughly around the same time those backstage bickering started to happen. Even led to one point of Foley implying online fans can claim any match as their own main event regardless where it is on the card. |
11-06-2017, 10:33 PM | #136 |
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I think this has to be the record for the coldest RAW thread ever.
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11-06-2017, 10:34 PM | #137 | |
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11-06-2017, 10:35 PM | #138 | |
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I don't feel like he's bottom 10%. Besides, we'll give someone unproven like Mahal the WWE Championship for nearly 6 months now with no build, but it's somehow beneath Vince to even give Ryder the benefit of a chance? OK then. |
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11-06-2017, 10:35 PM | #139 |
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I said this somewhere before, but I stand by it: If Triple H were given his own autonomous show to run opposite Vince, as sort of a friendly bet, Vince steamrolls Triple H.
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11-06-2017, 10:38 PM | #140 |
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11-06-2017, 10:39 PM | #141 |
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11-06-2017, 10:39 PM | #142 |
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11-06-2017, 10:39 PM | #143 | |
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I'm not pro-Jinder Mahal either, so that point is a total non-sequitur. I think Mahal is proven -- proven to be terrible. I absolutely consider giving him the WWE Title a mistake. So how does that make giving it to Ryder good? |
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11-06-2017, 10:40 PM | #144 |
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11-06-2017, 10:40 PM | #145 |
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11-06-2017, 10:40 PM | #146 |
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11-06-2017, 10:42 PM | #147 |
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11-06-2017, 10:43 PM | #148 |
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Sheamus and Cesaro will drive ford f150s to the ring at WM.
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11-06-2017, 10:45 PM | #149 | |
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My point is you can't know how good he'd be as champ without actually having the guts to make that dice roll in the first place. Sure, it could come up snake eyes, or you could roll 7. |
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11-06-2017, 10:46 PM | #150 |
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So they should have the guts to make everyone champ to see if they'd be good at it?
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11-06-2017, 10:46 PM | #151 | |
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I'm being cynical. I've thought for the longest time that they should try to get NXT on TV so that they can get something out of it. They're already filming it, you might as well try to shop it to either USA, ESPN or Syfy. I also think they should do an NBC show heading into WrestleMania every year though, so what do I know? I do know that NXT performs better than 205 Live which means it probably has a few hundred thousand people watching it, which means it is more over than the Broken Hardy stuff. |
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11-06-2017, 10:49 PM | #152 |
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No idea, but even if it does, I think it's a clear example of what Triple H could (emphasis there on "could") do for the main roster were Vince not so tightly clinging to control over them. IJS.
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11-06-2017, 10:51 PM | #153 | |
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They have a large sample of the guy's work at this point. He's been under their umbrella for 11 years at this point, and he has only had a handful of good matches at best. He did get super over at one point, but it amounted to nothing tangible because when they tried, in their own WWE way, it failed. The idea that they should put the WWE Title on the guy because they "don't know" yet is a bit silly. They know that the guy isn't up to snuff. |
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11-06-2017, 10:54 PM | #154 |
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Said it before...... but I liked the women's cell match and thought it was good as the main event........
But that's just my two cents..... |
11-06-2017, 10:57 PM | #155 |
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11-06-2017, 10:57 PM | #156 |
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Lol hit by an F150
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11-06-2017, 10:57 PM | #157 | |
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Considering that the title might as well be made of cardboard right now in terms of worth, maybe it would be better that Zack doesn't win it or even sniff the main event scene for a good long while. |
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11-06-2017, 10:58 PM | #158 | |
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I do wonder if Triple H takes over RAW, for example, if anything changes. I wonder if it even gets worse. People just assume it would change to logical booking. Triple H has been involved in some incredibly ego-driven and nonsensical shit that has legitimately hurt the business over his career. As he moves away from the ring, it's surely getting better, but every year we still have to get that Triple H match at WrestleMania that means nothing. Triple H also overestimates himself and his "kids" when it comes to what a star is. Who has NXT truly produced? You can claim that Vince and Kevin Dunn fuck it up with guys and gals, and that sometimes they don't even try. I will hear that argument. But I will also raise the point that Triple H gets to keep talent off shows in NXT, he gets to pick their spots, gets to avoid overexposing them. He also gets to hide their weaknesses, which becomes harder and harder with the weekly grind and exposure of RAW and SmackDown. |
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11-06-2017, 10:59 PM | #159 | |
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11-06-2017, 11:03 PM | #160 | |
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I'm sure Charlotte/Sasha is far from the worst main event in company history. I like both girls actually -- Charlotte is the closest they have to a female star and Sasha and is over. But Triple H got to coddle Sasha and protect her in NXT. When things go awry in a match she's lost, because she's had a very narrow field of training. |
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