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Old 06-12-2017, 12:19 AM   #241
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Old 06-12-2017, 12:23 AM   #242
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people are shitting all over this conference, not sure why

so pumped for Quake Champions
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am I the only one that doesn't care about card games

seem so utterly "fucking stupid"
...i love them....is bethesda doing one???
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Old 06-12-2017, 12:24 AM   #244
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MASTER SWORD IN SKYRIM JUST KILL ME NOW
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Old 06-12-2017, 12:27 AM   #245
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people are shitting all over this conference, not sure why

so pumped for Quake Champions
Is it because of the esports focus and Youtubers stuff?

EA's conference got bashed for the same thing although they also handled it pretty badly.
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Mostly just for showing games that have already been released etc
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...i love them....is bethesda doing one???
Yeah like an Elder Scrolls one? I wasn't paying too much attention
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Old 06-12-2017, 12:38 AM   #249
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Damn. Let the starfield and elder scrolls 6 and 7 hype get me.
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Yeah like an Elder Scrolls one? I wasn't paying too much attention
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Old 06-12-2017, 01:48 AM   #252
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The Devolver conference was basically an Eric Andre love letter. No games announced.
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Old 06-12-2017, 02:09 AM   #253
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John Morrison just showed up as Boone the Bounty Hunter. They kinda just played the trailer in reverse
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So many shitty hipster artsy bullshit at Microsoft's conference.

However;

- DBZ holy shit
- Anthem holy shit
- That real-time action MMORPG nice
- Sea of Thieves looks fun but I need to know how the social interactions work. Can we just plunder other players? I want to.
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So many shitty hipster artsy bullshit at Microsoft's conference.
God forbid small developers try to be creative, and craft unique visuals and gameplay.

I still do not understand this problem you have with indie developers. If the gameplay is legit great, then what is the problem? Are developers just not allowed to experiment with different art styles and gameplay ideas? Are they supposed to just endlessly make new shooters, rpgs and espirts games?

Fuck that. Ori and the Blind Forest is more beautiful and striking than a lot of games out there. And it plays fantastic. Limbo is more creepy and unnerving than most horror games. And it plays fantastic. I could go on. I've been an advocate for these types of games since they staryed showing up on live arcade. Not because I'm some pretentious hipster, but because its creativity unbound by publisher bullshit, and I appreciate the unique ideas and visuals that said unbridled creativity brings.
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Yup, totally agree. From the conference, I wish they made more of a case for owning an XBox, but a lot of the not actually exclusive games they showed looked fucking stunning. The "most diverse lineup" wasn't a marketing point for once.

Dunk Lords in that montage looked great too.
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Microsoft are bringing back the original DUKE controller, the big ass thing from the OG XBox, for PC and XB1.



Original XBox One shown for scale.

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The new Duke is a slightly modernized version that will be, for the most part, a “faithful recreation of the original controller's form factor.” That’s not to say there won’t be any new features: Hyperkin is updating the controller with “a logo display screen, left and right bumpers, and a 9 ft. detachable cable.”
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PC, iPhone and Android
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God forbid small developers try to be creative, and craft unique visuals and gameplay.

I still do not understand this problem you have with indie developers. If the gameplay is legit great, then what is the problem? Are developers just not allowed to experiment with different art styles and gameplay ideas? Are they supposed to just endlessly make new shooters, rpgs and espirts games?

Fuck that. Ori and the Blind Forest is more beautiful and striking than a lot of games out there. And it plays fantastic. Limbo is more creepy and unnerving than most horror games. And it plays fantastic. I could go on. I've been an advocate for these types of games since they staryed showing up on live arcade. Not because I'm some pretentious hipster, but because its creativity unbound by publisher bullshit, and I appreciate the unique ideas and visuals that said unbridled creativity brings.
I love me some indie goodness, but MS's whole theme was ULTRA REAL 4K HD EXCLUSIVE 4K WORLD PREMEIRE 4K TERRAFLOPS EXCLUSIVE and then they show a bunch of indie games that don't really need 4k to shine. I found it funny from that perspective, but otherwise agree with you
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Hope the "Arms" theme is on in the background for the whole Nintendo conference.
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It's a good banger, I hope so too


At the same time, I hope they save any Arms stuff for the Treehouse thing after, if they show it. Their conference panel is only 25 mins so I hope they focus more on unannounced stuff.

Of course that means we'll probably get 15 minutes of Mario x Rabbids and a brief mention of some 3DS stuff /sad
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There's a whole ARMS tournament Nintendo are streaming, so they should just keep it to a "Hey, this shit is out in like days" and move on.

Someone seems to keep saying "I know things, don't worry about it only being 30 minutes, trust me" but I dunno. Cautiously optimistic. Ubisoft might spend more time on Rabbids..
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God forbid small developers try to be creative, and craft unique visuals and gameplay.

I still do not understand this problem you have with indie developers. If the gameplay is legit great, then what is the problem?
Actually my exact issue is the gameplay isn't great or creative. I wasn't talking about the minimalist visual trends at all. I have no issue with 'quirkiness'.

I break down games to their gameplay, all the time. You know this. No interest in story modes, don't care for 'narrative intentions'. I'm a total nazi about this. Life is Strange; is ass. It does nothing for me. It fails at its own goal. If you set aside gameplay refinement to be a narrative driven game, fine, but I youtubed LiS and it's bollocks.

This isn't an appeal to AAA games which have gotten just as homogeneous, but the reason I call out AAA games is the same as I do indy games: People kind of treat 'AAA' and 'Indy' as a genre now and the games get pass for being either expensive or 'quirky'.

I am super hyped for Sea of Thieves and it honestly looks like shit. Metro looks meh and it had amazing visuals. The gameplay has to catch me first and a lot of indy games think they can shulk gameplay because 'it's an interesting project'. No, nigga.
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Actually my exact issue is the gameplay isn't great or creative. I wasn't talking about the minimalist visual trends at all. I have no issue with 'quirkiness'.

I break down games to their gameplay, all the time. You know this. No interest in story modes, don't care for 'narrative intentions'. I'm a total nazi about this. Life is Strange; is ass. It does nothing for me. It fails at its own goal. If you set aside gameplay refinement to be a narrative driven game, fine, but I youtubed LiS and it's bollocks.

By all means, call out a game if you think its overhyped, but god damn, you just judged a handful of games based on nothing. On 30 second clips.
This isn't an appeal to AAA games which have gotten just as homogeneous, but the reason I call out AAA games is the same as I do indy games: People kind of treat 'AAA' and 'Indy' as a genre now and the games get pass for being either expensive or 'quirky'.

I am super hyped for Sea of Thieves and it honestly looks like shit. Metro looks meh and it had amazing visuals. The gameplay has to catch me first and a lot of indy games think they can shulk gameplay because 'it's an interesting project'. No, nigga.
Telling me you youtubed Life is Strange does not explain your disdain for indy games a whole. So what if a few of these games geg overhyped, and don't get called out on their flaws? That doesn't mean that a lot of these games don't deserve the praise they get. I already listed a couple examples, but I've played a plethora of games with great controls and fun ideas. I guess I just don't understand what specifically you have a problem with, in terms of gameplay.

I mean if you think a game is overhyped, then by all means call it out, but shit, give games a chance. Maybe try playing one or two sometime.

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I've never been one of those 'all games are the same, where's the originality' types. I believe in refinement of conventions and mixing/merging of gameplay tropes. Pretty much every traditional game-type has been innovated and the final frontier is refinement and fresh perspectives, just like Hollywood. Just like music. Those great leaps and innovative gameplay of the 80s to early 2000s, that's done with. And I accept that. From here genres diverge into sub-genres and we find games that speak our individual language.

My issue is while you can highlight a few nice indy games, I'm unimpressed by what a generation who grew up gaming has produced so far. This should be the punk era of gaming, but it seems we dodged that and it went straight to post-modernism development. Minimalist, 'quirky' design that aim to spark conversations rather than entertain. An art exhibit where there's like... a fucking moldy bread on a basketball or some shit? That's post-modernism in art. It killed art and actual painters and sculptors have been trying to get this word out for decades now.

Now I wanna be clear that I'm not attacking games that are atypical or irreverent by design, nor am I 'missing the point'. I completely understand what something like Journey or Flower was going for. They just come off to me as pompous games. I can certainly accept them as 'interactive entertainment', but supporters do not. You may remember my old issues with why people reject Casual Games as a term. This was in line with my feelings for No Man's Sky. And in fact; I believe much of its criticisms stem from the fact that people were expecting a Core Game out of what was obviously a casual Interactive Experience. People misidentified what kind of game it was and he (lead designer) suffered for it.

I'm oldschool. I look toward the technical design of gameplay. If something is dressed up in a very atmospheric and interesting visual design, but is at the end of a day a badly paced 2D platformer with awkward difficulty spikes, I simply can't look past that. I don't give it points for having gorgeous visuals. An in-joke I have with Khuntry and the guys when we check out some pompous interview with an indy hack is asking, "I wonder what happens when I press the A button?" This loss of craftsmanship is a big issue for me and it doesn't help that game journos are no better. Kotaku's recent coverage of that awesome looking DBZ fighter is laughable. Writer clearly didn't know what to talk about other than it seems like MvC.

I am 100% unimpressed with the Dead Space series. Looks good. Controls are functional. Unimpressed. I can't past it being a ho-hum western horror game.

I'm just a cranky old bastard. And Mario x Rabbids is on stage right now.
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