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Old 10-18-2013, 08:32 AM   #3081
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It's GTA. That's the reason.
Well.....yeah. But, honour amongst thieves. Or something.

Think I have less issue with guys stalking out ATMs, Simeone's showroom/dock garage, etc. as it's at least in keeping with the criminality of the game. Blasting someone in the face because they're standing on the street just seems so...needless.

I'm all for it if you've stolen their car, smashed into them, shot at them, whatever, then it's clearly on.
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:33 AM   #3082
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Also, I hate flying. Copter races, plane racing, parachuting. All of it. Far too tricky for me. Give me a motorbike race any day.
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:54 AM   #3083
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Love Parachting, unless the host turns rain/wind on makes it too hard.
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:59 AM   #3084
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Just did that stupid nuclear waste collection ish on single player. What a piss-off that is, floating about all the way to the other side of the island, hate sub controls
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Old 10-18-2013, 09:27 AM   #3085
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The new patch is out. Apparantly it cuts the cash from missions by 50%.
I don't suppose it's too much to ask for Rockstar to do something competent.

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Blasting someone in the face because they're standing on the street just seems so...needless.


Seriously, this is a game full of Fangerls. A little sociopathy is to be expected.

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Also, I hate flying. Copter races, plane racing, parachuting. All of it. Far too tricky for me. Give me a motorbike race any day.
I only really hate the plane shit.

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Love Parachting, unless the host turns rain/wind on makes it too hard.
Too hard? That's the only way it's challenging.
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Old 10-18-2013, 09:45 AM   #3086
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Seriously, this is a game full of Fangerls. A little sociopathy is to be expected.
It's always cute when a 30 year old internet troll says these things.
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After some thought, disregard my kneejerk reaction. Cutting mission payouts in half is a good thing in the long run.
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Old 10-18-2013, 10:42 AM   #3089
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Old 10-18-2013, 10:48 AM   #3090
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I did a mission for Simeon and only got $720 so the 50% cut is true.
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I did a mission for Simeon and only got $720 so the 50% cut is true.
I got 2K on a mission, so I assumed they were the same.
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A Simeon mission, I should add.
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Old 10-18-2013, 11:29 AM   #3093
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After some thought, disregard my kneejerk reaction. Cutting mission payouts in half is a good thing in the long run.
I'm not a fan. Some of the missions I'm getting in to now are a bit tedious. On Level 26. The Death From Above mission is a joke. It hints to use a helicopter but it's literally no help whatsoever when you eventually do find one, trying to parachute on to the roof is just a quick way to get shot. When me and a couple of crew members finished it, it was more luck than anything else, I died at the right time and lost a wanted level so I could run in, only have a couple of guards to kill and get a picture of the corpse.


We only got a measly $5000 for it, which I'd already spent anyway hiring a chopper in a previous attempt from Merryweather that was no help at all. I'd rather they upped the pay-outs and not bother with with the stimulus package, make it more worthwhile to do missions and make people more likely to accept invites when you're short of chums online.

The missions where you have to capture moving vehicles are woeful. They take so long to do, just so boring.
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Do races still give out exorbitant amounts (for effort required + fun factor) of cash? Haven't played online in the past couple days, that is my main money maker
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Old 10-18-2013, 12:26 PM   #3095
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RoXer is currently doing that right now. In my experience, races still pay out very well if you win.
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Old 10-18-2013, 12:32 PM   #3096
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I did a mission for Simeon and only got $720 so the 50% cut is true.
That's enough for one hospital visit.
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Here's what calmed me down guys:

- It seems 5-7k will be the new 'jackpot' payouts. We've been spoiled, we've replayed, we've grinded. Gravy train is over. I'm certain R* seen something in official player data they didn't like about the economy and made a call. I THINK I know why. There already millionaires out there. And also dudes leveled in the 100s. While RP is something they can't really control barring some reset they're certainly not going to do after a sketchy launch - money is fully in their control.

- Money is perishable. You don't have it forever. You pay medical fees, you call in special moves from characters, and you need ammo. This is GTA's 'death and taxes'. The massive payouts were disproportionate with the level gain, particularly with boosters running around. R* had to make a call on something they could control - the money. Payouts will be smaller, and I wouldn't be surprised if certain got a price hike. Hell, they'd probably add a tithing protocol for the Top 1% players and have their medical bills take larger cuts based on their bank account (a topical and ironic enough move that makes it so R*).

- This is also a game where they can add new missions anytime they wish using in-game assets. I'm certain there will be occasional massive payout jobs/missions as well as the coming heists (which were originally going to be the crazy payout jobs). A lot of the old big payouts, let's be real here, weren't even that hard. Some of the hardest missions don't pay you shit. I'm sure this also influenced their decision - seeing players steamroll jobs for easy money.

- Things like robbing stores and poaching bank trucks are validated again. How many of you stopped that because it was 'beneath you'? And alternate income like betting on races becomes attractive.

- And let's be real here, they have Cash Packs to sell eventually, and making the grind harder will get people to drop dough.
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So I'm trying to unlock the color Hot Pink online. And on my the way to the race I try to pick up a prostitute but I don't have enough money. I keep honking and some NPC dude, presumably her pimp, walks up throws me out of the car and I knock him out. The ambulance comes to try and revive him (btw, paramedics haven't revived an NPC once in this game for me. I remember in other games they would do it more often than not. Melee deaths would be revived, gunshot wounds rarely.) but I guess another NPC honked at them because the ambulance was in the way. They take offense, grab him on the car and start beating on him. ANOTHER ambulance comes but they don't revive, they join in on brawl.

There's a god damned melee in the streets of this 12 person lobby and they're all NPCs. It was pretty funny.
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Here's what calmed me down guys:

- It seems 5-7k will be the new 'jackpot' payouts. We've been spoiled, we've replayed, we've grinded. Gravy train is over. I'm certain R* seen something in official player data they didn't like about the economy and made a call. I THINK I know why. There already millionaires out there. And also dudes leveled in the 100s. While RP is something they can't really control barring some reset they're certainly not going to do after a sketchy launch - money is fully in their control.

- Money is perishable. You don't have it forever. You pay medical fees, you call in special moves from characters, and you need ammo. This is GTA's 'death and taxes'. The massive payouts were disproportionate with the level gain, particularly with boosters running around. R* had to make a call on something they could control - the money. Payouts will be smaller, and I wouldn't be surprised if certain got a price hike. Hell, they'd probably add a tithing protocol for the Top 1% players and have their medical bills take larger cuts based on their bank account (a topical and ironic enough move that makes it so R*).

- This is also a game where they can add new missions anytime they wish using in-game assets. I'm certain there will be occasional massive payout jobs/missions as well as the coming heists (which were originally going to be the crazy payout jobs). A lot of the old big payouts, let's be real here, weren't even that hard. Some of the hardest missions don't pay you shit. I'm sure this also influenced their decision - seeing players steamroll jobs for easy money.

- Things like robbing stores and poaching bank trucks are validated again. How many of you stopped that because it was 'beneath you'? And alternate income like betting on races becomes attractive.

- And let's be real here, they have Cash Packs to sell eventually, and making the grind harder will get people to drop dough.
They should do something very specific to deal with major grinders and people taking the piss. The majority don't have the time to do it, so there has to be a balance between slowing down those with the time and inclination to break a game's system (they'll keep trying too every time something is changed) and making it a non-worthwhile venture for people who play more casually. I personally have a lot of time to play currently so the painful pay-outs for big missions is ok for now, especially with the good times playing with mates online, but it was already getting annoying playing for 2-3 hours and basically seeing my balance either go down a little or improve by a couple of thousand quid because of the expenses vs. mission income just by playing in a normal way. Some of the missions already feel like a chore, so it's annoying to level up and see stuff unlocked but have no money to actually pay for it. If you want to fuck around in Free Mode, stealing jets and stuff like that, going after bounties, there's little chance of making any real money playing on a casual basis.
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A good and obvious way to stop people replaying missions and races to easily gain money and XP is to have the money and XP gained from it reduce with each replay. $1000 for the first playthrough, $900 on the replay, $500 on the 2nd replay, $200 on the 3rd replay and then $1 there after. XP should react similarly.

This is for back to back replaying. If you do a mission, then a different one or free roam before going back to the first mission, it resets back to the full payout.
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Makes sense if it didn't reset people would just stop doing them.

I'm kinda mad I can't get over 2K at gas stations anymore.
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I never did and I don't know how you claimed you got that or $10k. I think you were looking at the wrong figure and saw the money in your bank.
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Has anyone seen a cash truck in a public online lobby? I only see them when I'm playing online solo.

Still not seeing any crew emblems whatsoever.
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Old 10-18-2013, 03:02 PM   #3104
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Here's what calmed me down guys:

- It seems 5-7k will be the new 'jackpot' payouts. We've been spoiled, we've replayed, we've grinded. Gravy train is over. I'm certain R* seen something in official player data they didn't like about the economy and made a call. I THINK I know why. There already millionaires out there. And also dudes leveled in the 100s. While RP is something they can't really control barring some reset they're certainly not going to do after a sketchy launch - money is fully in their control.

- Money is perishable. You don't have it forever. You pay medical fees, you call in special moves from characters, and you need ammo. This is GTA's 'death and taxes'. The massive payouts were disproportionate with the level gain, particularly with boosters running around. R* had to make a call on something they could control - the money. Payouts will be smaller, and I wouldn't be surprised if certain got a price hike. Hell, they'd probably add a tithing protocol for the Top 1% players and have their medical bills take larger cuts based on their bank account (a topical and ironic enough move that makes it so R*).

- This is also a game where they can add new missions anytime they wish using in-game assets. I'm certain there will be occasional massive payout jobs/missions as well as the coming heists (which were originally going to be the crazy payout jobs). A lot of the old big payouts, let's be real here, weren't even that hard. Some of the hardest missions don't pay you shit. I'm sure this also influenced their decision - seeing players steamroll jobs for easy money.

- Things like robbing stores and poaching bank trucks are validated again. How many of you stopped that because it was 'beneath you'? And alternate income like betting on races becomes attractive.

- And let's be real here, they have Cash Packs to sell eventually, and making the grind harder will get people to drop dough.
I don't even play online, and I STILL believe convenience store and armored truck robberies, although they obviously don't pay out the most in SP, to be a very easy way to make a decent amount of cash in a relatively short amount of time. And people who attempt those and can't escape from a *-*** Wanted lvl. have no business playing the game, on or offline.
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Old 10-18-2013, 03:16 PM   #3105
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- And let's be real here, they have Cash Packs to sell eventually, and making the grind harder will get people to drop dough.
That calmed you down?

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Has anyone seen a cash truck in a public online lobby? I only see them when I'm playing online solo.

Still not seeing any crew emblems whatsoever.
I've seen armoured cars (assuming that's what you mean) once or twice in public, but I don't know how common this is because I normally play in crew lobbies, invite-only, or solo sessions.
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Old 10-18-2013, 03:59 PM   #3107
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That calmed you down?
It's Kalyx. Of course being able to "make it rain" would give him joy. Who wouldn't love that opportunity?!
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Old 10-18-2013, 04:11 PM   #3108
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I'm with ECG on his thoughts. These changes don't effect those that have the time/patience to have already spent literally days on the game levelling up and building their stash. For those of us with a job and/or social life it's a kick in the teeth because it'll take us even longer to catch up.
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Old 10-18-2013, 04:34 PM   #3109
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Has anyone seen a cash truck in a public online lobby? I only see them when I'm playing online solo.

Still not seeing any crew emblems whatsoever.
Yeah. I think after a certain level they 'unlock' as blips on your radar. At least, I saw my first radar blip yesterday. Dunno if you open them the same though. I sticky bombed the back, and I think I was too close to another car and the whole truck blew up. Haven't seen another one to try yet. I got 200 RP for blowing it up though.
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Old 10-18-2013, 04:35 PM   #3110
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Old 10-18-2013, 04:45 PM   #3111
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Old 10-18-2013, 05:39 PM   #3112
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They're pretty rare from what I've seen.
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Old 10-18-2013, 05:42 PM   #3113
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I've had 3 or 4 cash trucks show up in one solo online session but never in a public one.

I just toss a stick bomb on the back doors, wait until its not too close to me or other cars and detonate them. The doors swing open, two or three bags fall out and the truck keeps driving.
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Old 10-18-2013, 05:42 PM   #3114
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It's Kalyx. Of course being able to "make it rain" would give him joy. Who wouldn't love that opportunity?!
What?
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Old 10-18-2013, 05:46 PM   #3115
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I never did and I don't know how you claimed you got that or $10k. I think you were looking at the wrong figure and saw the money in your bank.
I was doing solo mode the day before i lost my character and just kept sating "moneymoneymoneymoney"
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