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Old 10-11-2017, 06:22 PM   #41
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But let's say the gimmick was good. I'm not willing to concede that, but let's put it on a subjective spectrum: How much of that do you think was environmental? How much of the hand-held camera, aerial drone shot, poorly acted stuff gained "charm" or whatever from being a) pieced together by a company that was trying really hard to be good and falling short; and b) being in a small-time promotion. Don't you think there would need to be innate philosophical differences between a TNA produced one and a WWE produced one?

TNA and Matt Hardy were being overly ambitious with the gimmick. They had nothing better to fill time with. They had no eyeballs so it was logical to experiment. You're going in one direction. Plus, Matt Hardy and Jeremy Borash, or whoever the fuck, only have a certain level of production skill, so when they try really hard to put things together, it could theoretically attain that "camp" effect, in that they were trying really sincerely to do this thing, and if there were any charm there, it has to surely come from that.

For WWE, it wouldn't be technically ambitious -- it would be sacrificing many of the tools at their disposal. There is plenty of stuff they could put on instead of it. There are eyeballs watching their product (lol, not many though), so there is more risk involved. They've this world-class production team. It wouldn't make sense for them to air shitty camera footage on their show like that.

Aesthetically and philosophically, I would think that fans of the TNA gimmick would want WWE to leave it the fuck alone.
I've said many times I don't want to see it in WWE. Hell WWE did try to do it with the Wyatt Compound segment and failed. I didn't want to see the same story they told originally either and if they did use it would want it to be a bit different.

It was great as it was pretty much Hardy just fucking around for laughs then TNA got desperate and gave him the whole show. Yeah it was campy but was also telling a story which is somthing that is lscking in pro wrestling today. It got over on the internet and unfortunately in today's world sometimes that's all it takes.
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Old 10-11-2017, 06:23 PM   #42
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But was it over? No one on the internet watched it.
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Old 10-11-2017, 06:26 PM   #43
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But was it over? No one on the internet watched it.
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As for Matt Hardy right now? There's no real interest in him as an act without Jeff, who is the star. With Jeff out for months, maybe just pay Matt to try and stay in shape and let him spend time with his family. Call him in for a Royal Rumble spot and maybe use him in the Andre Battle Royal and re-evaluate when you get Jeff back. But I'd be in favor of a singles run for Jeff.
Matt Hardy as a singles act has always been entertaining. If given the chance I think he could reinvent himself again as a singles act on Smackdown. Doesn't have to be Broken or anything like it. Jeff has always been my favorite but he has nothing on Matt when it comes to character development and progression. That being said Jeff doesn't really have to rely on those qualities and can carry himself in the ring although was very funny in the Broken Universe with all his characters.
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No he wasn't.
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Tomko could be funny.
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Gene Snitsky. Now THAT dude was straight comedy. Don't feel sorry for me because I wasn't on board with some faggoty Jeff Hardy brainchild.
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Eh didn't CA e for Snitsky but I could see how someone found him funny.
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Are you fucking kidding? That Kane and Lita wedding or whatever I'm talking about was way better than anything Broken.

"It's not my fault, the things that love can do to us
Just like it wasn't my fault that there was a dead baby in your uterus"

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And he punted a baby. A regular Richard fucking Pryor.
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This guy is funnier than the Broken gimmick:

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Are you fucking kidding? That Kane and Lita wedding or whatever I'm talking about was way better than anything Broken.

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This guy is funnier than the Broken gimmick:

You just dont know comedy. It's OK. Thousands of people are wrong every day.
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Standby Wrestler really is a hilarious gimmick. Always doing that same squat in the back, just hoping someone will ever need him. Richard Justice is awesome. Way better than Broken.
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Standby Wrestler really is a hilarious gimmick. Always doing that same squat in the back, just hoping someone will ever need him. Richard Justice is awesome. Way better than Broken.
Richard Justice is funny I'll give you that. Not better than Broken Matt Hardy though. Broken Matt Hardy was so much more than just comedy though. Hit on many different genres of entertainment, some liked it some didn't.
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No he didn't. What else did he hit on besides self-serving smarky bullshit that made the entire show look busch league as fuck?
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No he didn't. What else did he hit on besides self-serving smarky bullshit that made the entire show look busch league as fuck?
It had aspects of syfy, drama, comedy, improv, and horror amoung other things. Matt was given alot of freedom and I'm not sure any other wrestler has as ever been handed a full showby a company. Granted they were desperate and eventually fucked it up but they did have something. It was reaching its shelf life though and Hardy was starting to evole it when the left and went to ROH.
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I keep telling myself that I don't ever want to talk to you about Matt Hardy ever again, but this keeps happening. If you got all of THAT out of the Broken shit, then I feel sorry for YOU.
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I keep telling myself that I don't ever want to talk to you about Matt Hardy ever again, but this keeps happening. If you got all of THAT out of the Broken shit, then I feel sorry for YOU.
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Inbreeding is also a thing.
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Inbreeding is also a thing.
Duh. Not the point though as it was pertaining to the different genres of entertainment that the Broken gimmick used. Inbreeding is irrelevant but maybe not out of the realm of possibility when it comes to pro wrestling as we've seen.
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The money is and always was in Jeff. Matt was a bit better as a singles when they broke up when they were very young, but Jeff soon eclipsed him with ease. Jeff has the it factor, Matt at his best is a good hand and half decent character.
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All I know is that when they came back to the WWE, Matt Hardy looked very out of place on the big stage again after all that, while Jeff Hardy seemed like he was above teaming with Matt and should have been brought back on his own.
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Duh. Not the point though as it was pertaining to the different genres of entertainment that the Broken gimmick used. Inbreeding is irrelevant but maybe not out of the realm of possibility when it comes to pro wrestling as we've seen.
What he was saying was this:

Just because it's a thing doesn't make it right.
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What he was saying was this:

Just because it's a thing doesn't make it right.
I know what he was saying. I wasn't calling it right either. Destor called him a wrestling Shakespeare and I'd heard it been said before. Hell even the comparisons give Shakespeare his credit. My point was that all those genres were represented in the Broken Saga.
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Really though my best friend is fucking his cousin and they advertise it. Weirdest thing I've ever seen.
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