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Old 09-25-2017, 06:03 AM   #1
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Roman Reigns is a good wrestler. Time to admit it @ everyone

I'm not going to resist Roman like I did Cena. His push will happen regardless.


He has good matches. I embrace him as the new face of WWE. He's definitely not my favorite...but if this were the late 80's and I existed as an adult rasslin fan then, I probably would have thought Rick Rude/Randy Savage should be the face of the company...meanwhile Hulk Hogan was beating Akeem in the main-event. It is time @tpww dot net, to embrace Roman Reigns as the future of the company for another decade. We've got at least ten years of Roman pinning his opponents after a Superman spear/punch to end ppv's ahead of us. Let's #embrace it.
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Old 09-25-2017, 06:08 AM   #2
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Old 09-25-2017, 06:12 AM   #3
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He might be. I don't know, I haven't watched a minute of him since that ambulance match with Braun which was hilarious. The only interaction I've had since listening to nL talk over PPV events because they are hilarious.

No need to #embrace anything. There's better things to do with life than watch WWE right now.
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Old 09-25-2017, 06:26 AM   #4
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Old 09-25-2017, 06:32 AM   #5
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Always said he was a good wrestler. Not a great wrestler. Though he can have great matches with the right person.
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Old 09-25-2017, 06:34 AM   #6
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I think Cena is a better wrestler. They just both have very dull personas. Cena's is still better imo.
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Old 09-25-2017, 06:35 AM   #7
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Was there a time WWE didn't have a "face of the company" at all?
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Old 09-25-2017, 06:41 AM   #8
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early 90's?

Bret and Shawn were the top guys, but they weren't mainstream popular enough to be the face of anything.
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Old 09-25-2017, 06:50 AM   #9
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Well, when for instance Stone Cold was the face of company it was because people pretty much chose him. Reigns? They're forcing it. I don't like where this is going.
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Old 09-25-2017, 07:22 AM   #10
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Roman Reigns is as good as the person he's in the ring with. He's certainly no slouch, and he's athletic as hell, but he's just not good enough to carry a match himself. Reigns vs. AJ Styles, Daniel Bryan and Seth Rollins etc are incredible matches, Roman Reigns vs. Big Show or Triple H are fucking shite.
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Old 09-25-2017, 07:47 AM   #11
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Being a "good wrestler" wasn't really ever the point of contention.

You could see WWE had big plans for him ever since is wholly unconvincing "I'm the man." promo in NXT. As part of The Shield, Ambrose had the immediate chops to do the heavy lifting while Rollins had time to "find himself" (thank goodness he got the heel turn), but the camera time was increasingly being fixated on Roman. By the time they got their entrance down to a science, the steadycam guy was all up his nostrils. "He's the big deal, here, we should all be focusing on him". Literally. As much effort to show him on the apron as the match in the ring, then all the attention to him at the hot tag, et cetera...

On the singles run, he kept all the over and familiar elements of The Shield- the music and the crowd entrance, and I guess the flak jacket to make him look more massive, I dunno. Even with a wellness policy violation and an extended hospital stay, the company tried to act like that had no bearing whatsoever on his upward momentum. They had the guy who was *really* over (DB) endorse him, they had The Rock endorse him, just whatever they could to try to get the crowd to get behind him, and it was false and transparent every step of the way.

I'm one of those who is all for "taking the ride" with someone, but there was no "ride" with Roman. Currently, the only weaker path to elevation was Jinder, who was suddenly booked like "boom, yer instantly super legit now". Cena had a ride, and while I'm not solidly in the camp of "he should turn heel", the problem there is that he's the same guy he has been for years. Even Undertaker went biker for awhile. Cena's just stale and predictalbe, and it's like those are the qualities WWE is trying to reproduce with Reigns.

But neither one are actually bad wrestlers. Not the greatest, either (though Cena can be argued- he actually *is* good, but when your go-to checklist and the dreaded "five moves of doom" can get you by on the regular, why do you *need* to go further?), but their abilities between the bell has not been what is so unattractive about rooting for either dude.
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Old 09-25-2017, 09:41 AM   #12
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Roman Reigns is as good as the person he's in the ring with. He's certainly no slouch, and he's athletic as hell, but he's just not good enough to carry a match himself. Reigns vs. AJ Styles, Daniel Bryan and Seth Rollins etc are incredible matches, Roman Reigns vs. Big Show or Triple H are fucking shite.
To play Devil's advocate, the same could be said for Hulk Hogan, Ultimate Warrior, Goldberg, STING, Brock Lesnar, Andre The Giant, etc.
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Old 09-25-2017, 09:59 AM   #13
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To play Devil's advocate, the same could be said for Hulk Hogan, Ultimate Warrior, Goldberg, STING, Brock Lesnar, Andre The Giant, etc.
All of those guys were tremendously charismatic though and got people up on their feet reacting.

Reigns tries to come off as "chill", but he comes off as bland and uninteresting. His sludgey music and action figure attire make it worse.

He is a good athlete, but I wouldn't say he is a great wrestler
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Old 09-25-2017, 10:00 AM   #14
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All of those guys were tremendously charismatic though and got people up on their feet reacting.

Reigns tries to come off as "chill", but he comes off as bland and uninteresting. His sludgey music and action figure attire make it worse.

He is a good athlete, but I wouldn't say he is a great wrestler
Yeah, I mean, is he constantly expecting someone to shoot him in the ring?
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Really thought his and Cena's match sucked. Don't feel like they cliqued well together. Was boring and anticlimactic.
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Yeah, I mean, is he constantly expecting someone to shoot him in the ring?
Honestly, it's the worst thing about him. I get that when he was in a "gang", it was just their look, but now? Running around by himself in a flak jacket, while his fellow "gang" members have moved on. It looks sad tbh
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The match with Cena was pretty dull, especially because pretty much the exact same match move-for-move happened between Cena and AJ Styles not too long ago, yet for some reason this was the one touted as the "big match". Reigns won clean so he's officially "The Man", whereas AJ beat him clean last year and was never seen in the same light.
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The match with Cena was pretty dull, especially because pretty much the exact same match move-for-move happened between Cena and AJ Styles not too long ago, yet for some reason this was the one touted as the "big match". Reigns won clean so he's officially "The Man", whereas AJ beat him clean last year and was never seen in the same light.
What? It put AJ on the map as a top guy for the company...
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I don't see how Cena/Reigns was move for move to Cena/Styles either. Styles pulls off stuff in the ring Roman could only dream about.
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Old 09-25-2017, 12:27 PM   #22
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I was kind of impressed by Romans phenomenal forearm last night.
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Old 09-25-2017, 12:30 PM   #23
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Old 09-25-2017, 01:55 PM   #25
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Both of you seek help. For real.
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Old 09-25-2017, 02:19 PM   #28
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Old 09-25-2017, 03:33 PM   #29
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Roman is very average in the ring. His moveset is dull, nothing looks high impact like it should. His match with Cena was actually dull and boring. I was never a big Cena fan but he is a huge step above Reigns. I don't see positives in pushing Reigns like they are.
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Old 09-25-2017, 03:54 PM   #30
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Going to say no. He's not terrible but he's also not that good for someone meant to be the next mega star in the WWE.

Biggest problem is the WWE pretty much skipped the midcard phase/years of his star building which is arguably the most importance phase. Them also trying to force the already tired Super Cena persona for his character and the lack of development with his promo skills have just made things worse for him.

In terms of ring skills, he's not bad but him spamming the Superman punch exposes how limited he is since its his fallback move whenever he doesn't know what to do next. Same for almost every big match has to involve a table spot since its his fallback for getting the crowd to pop.
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Old 09-25-2017, 04:02 PM   #31
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Fell asleep during their match. Too formulaic.
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Old 09-25-2017, 05:10 PM   #32
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In ten years he will go to hit a superman punch on the new leading star of RAW and they will reverse it into w/e their ridiculous finisher is...maybe a snap-mare takedowm
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Old 09-25-2017, 05:13 PM   #33
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Old 09-25-2017, 05:34 PM   #34
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If they would change his music, lose his vest and not use the superman punch like a kid playing a video game who only knows one move, he might be more over
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Old 09-25-2017, 06:41 PM   #35
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I figure Vince thought he'd be dead by the time the fans that are left are forced to just bend over and accept his shitty face of the company.

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Old 09-25-2017, 06:54 PM   #36
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Reigns is fine but unexciting in the ring. Everything about him comes off as manufactured though. He's far less charismatic than any face of the company they've had and those promos against Cena were telling. He was out of his element. When Cena and Rock had their promo wars, Cena somehow managed to go toe-to-toe with him which is crazy to think of. Reigns came off like a fake try-hard. And I don't think that's all Reigns' fault at all. But the character is... not good.
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Old 09-26-2017, 04:45 AM   #37
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Reigns has got a motor on him. He's been involved in some great matches. The dude's ring game is not really the problem. He's still "bad" on the mic and doesn't have babyface charisma. He still dresses like a kid playing army man and is pushed in a way that feels treacly.

Instead of just accepting it, how about more people just continue to switch off?
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Old 09-26-2017, 05:57 AM   #38
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Old 09-26-2017, 10:01 AM   #39
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The dude is awesome in the ring, truly... aaaand he was really good in the Miz TV segment, hopefully he maintains that aspect of his personality because you can't really boo a guy who talks like that. It was pretty cool.
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Old 09-26-2017, 10:03 AM   #40
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Roman is very average in the ring. His moveset is dull, nothing looks high impact like it should. His match with Cena was actually dull and boring. I was never a big Cena fan but he is a huge step above Reigns. I don't see positives in pushing Reigns like they are.
I gotta disagree, his work is snug. His punches have force, his move set is really quite exciting. From the superman the drive by drop kick, the samoan drop WITH AUTHORITY, and one of the best spears ever... I just gotta disagree.
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