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Old 10-11-2017, 10:44 AM   #41
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May be tough getting that release though.
Thats the thing, even if they "release him" he isnt free to work whatever he wants. If he hasnt resignd though it will expire soon enough...if he has resigned then it could be awhile... releasing him nly frees him from his date commitements to them. He still wouldnt be abel to work for major competitors. He could do random indies but that would be about it.
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Old 10-11-2017, 10:46 AM   #42
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Old 10-11-2017, 10:51 AM   #43
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Thats the thing, even if they "release him" he isnt free to work whatever he wants. If he hasnt resignd though it will expire soon enough...if he has resigned then it could be awhile... releasing him nly frees him from his date commitements to them. He still wouldnt be abel to work for major competitors. He could do random indies but that would be about it.
Yeah, I think they let Punk go only if he didn't got to another wrestling promotion for x amount of time. Obviously that's not an issue for him.

You never know, it could be a last ditch effort to make his position better and Vince sometimes respects these moves. He might come back in a slightly better position or at least work out the rest of his deal so he just has no extra non-compete.
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Old 10-11-2017, 10:51 AM   #44
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Thats the thing, even if they "release him" he isnt free to work whatever he wants. If he hasnt resignd though it will expire soon enough...if he has resigned then it could be awhile... releasing him nly frees him from his date commitements to them. He still wouldnt be abel to work for major competitors. He could do random indies but that would be about it.
Yeah he still may be better off not jobbing to rich swann and drew gulak before he hits the open market... Particularly if he hasnt re signed. I imagine he hasnt re sogned though if he just walked out on them.though lol.
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Old 10-11-2017, 10:56 AM   #45
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Old 10-11-2017, 11:48 AM   #46
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Cruiserweight division......lol

Neville is the only one who I could maybe buy in the real division but the curse of being in the cw division will never leave him while in the E. So at this point, really who cares.
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Old 10-11-2017, 11:59 AM   #47
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The Cruiserweight division has even been getting more shine on Raw as of late. I can't pretend to personally know how Neville's feeling, but this kinda just sucks all around.
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Old 10-11-2017, 04:17 PM   #48
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Update from the Observer via TPWW Frontpage

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The Wrestling Observer is reporting that their sources confirmed to them that Neville did in fact walk out before Raw and appeared to have quit the company. However, WWE’s official line to both the Wrestling Observer and PWInsider is that Neville has not “departed” the company. This could obviously just be WWE trying to do damage control, however, or hoping to work things out with Neville. It could also just mean that Neville has not officially left, since WWE would have to grant him his actual release for that to be technically true. As of now, though, nothing seems to be confirmed for sure, so we’ll see what happens.
Basically its an Aries situation right now and WWE is likely working on the paperwork needed to enforce certain terms for Neville's official release soon.

http://www.tpww.net/2017/10/update-o...-quitting-wwe/
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Old 10-11-2017, 05:20 PM   #49
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It's a work. He will get released from the RAW exclusive cruiserweight contract and be signed to a normal contract on Smackdown!
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Old 10-11-2017, 05:31 PM   #50
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Wow Neville is just like owenbrown, a crybaby.
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Old 10-11-2017, 05:58 PM   #51
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That is inline with their present use of social media/dirt sheets
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Old 10-11-2017, 06:05 PM   #52
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So there's truth to this? Something seems weird about it. I don't know why Neville, who has been smelling like roses lately, would care about dropping the Cruiserweight fucking Title. It could mean bigger and better things.

Long-term frustration makes sense. I mean, the dude is a freak in the ring and he's been bending over backwards for that division and if you show up to work and they've kind of got nothing for you in a big way moving forward, I can understand how that could be deflating. And there's that sting of Enzo bumping up 205 Live. Eyes on your product and people comparing your dick, it's possible that compounded the issue.

I'm really bummed out that my Shield vs. Finn Balor, Neville & Samoa Joe feud can't happen now. Unless it is a work, which would be cool. WWE is not this good at working people usually. They'd have him throw a fit on RAW and telegraphed it.
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Old 10-11-2017, 06:13 PM   #53
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Wouldn't be surprised if WWE views the Cruiser/205 Live like how WCW did with their Cruiser division.

Based on how its been handled, WWE probably still doesn't have a favorable stance for the division and once your in it, its pretty much the end of any future upward mobility on the success ladder.

Neville probably came to the same conclusion Aries had about him not going to succeed any higher or have the chance to do so while in the WWE.
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Old 10-11-2017, 06:28 PM   #54
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The division has been going for a year now and Neville has been the best guy in it by far. There's no real precedent to assume that he'd not be moved out the division and used better. I dunno, something is really off about it.

Dolph Ziggler getting fed up and walking out? Yeah, I'd believe that story. But Neville has been like pushed and pushed and pushed. Yeah, the 205 Live experiment has been a fucking disaster, but that's exactly why when Vince comes up to me and is like "Kid, we're taking the belt off you tonight," I'd be like "Fucking thank you!"

There's got to be more to the story than this, because there's no way Neville is such a belt mark. Surely he would have thought "onwards and upwards."
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Old 10-11-2017, 06:32 PM   #55
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By the way, how surreal is this 205 Live thing? Who would have thought that Vince McMahon would like a tournament so much he'd think "That has to be a thing" and he's hire all these small guys and try to push them for a year?

I enjoyed a lot of the CWC, but was it even that good. I'm not bitching about it, but as good as it was, does it warrant the "cruiserweights are hot!" ongoing response that Vince has been going with. At this stage, who even thinks about it in association with the division? I'm so fucking tired so I'm not explaining myself correctly, but it's just surreal that Vince is trying so hard to push little guys because there was this good tournament that was watched by maybe 1 million people or whatever.
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The division has been going for a year now and Neville has been the best guy in it by far. There's no real precedent to assume that he'd not be moved out the division and used better. I dunno, something is really off about it.
Unless he was asking and they said no
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He reminds me of Mr. Burns hiring Frank Grimes. Only Frank Grimes is still being pushed a year later on at a nuclear plant.
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Unless he was asking and they said no
Yeah, maybe, but you'd think the WWE would be more savvy than that. Remember how Triple H told Chris Masters there was a big push coming? You keep dangling the carrot. I doubt they would have bluntly said "We're done with you now." For him to just walk out? Like, you've got to be pissed or just so frustrated that you're done. That doesn't seem a reasonable response to "Yeah, you're losing to Enzo and we don't have anything for you right now."
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Old 10-11-2017, 06:40 PM   #59
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Also, WWE has been really good for Neville as an overall performer. He's managed to ground a lot more of his game, develop a personally, etc. It's not like he's been "creatively stifled." I can understand frustration at bending your body backwards for this company and maybe feel underappreciated or that you're just pissing into the wind with the current product, but...fuck, I dunno.

More power to the dude for exercising his agency.
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Yeah, maybe, but you'd think the WWE would be more savvy than that. Remember how Triple H told Chris Masters there was a big push coming? You keep dangling the carrot. I doubt they would have bluntly said "We're done with you now." For him to just walk out? Like, you've got to be pissed or just so frustrated that you're done. That doesn't seem a reasonable response to "Yeah, you're losing to Enzo and we don't have anything for you right now."
Yeah, or it could be "We're going to put you here for 2 months" and then just kept extending it. Guess we won't know until the inevitable shoot interview if he does leave.

Just an aside because I read this while reading more stuff on the Neville thing. Apparently, when Justin Gabriel quit, they called him that day and said "We were actually going to use you on Raw... Oh well".That was just hilariously petty.
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Old 10-11-2017, 09:22 PM   #61
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I'm with Noid. Things don't add up with this whole situation. Can't accept that the best heel in the company is leaving over this.

Although in fairness, as much backstage heat Enzo has and how absolute shit he is, it would be garbage to be on the Neville level and play second fiddle to Enzo and have him be credited for why the cruisers are getting more air time.

I personally think the cruisers are getting the main event lately because hour 3 has the lowest viewers and has for a very long time.
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^You don't have to personally think. I think it's a pretty open secret.

Maybe Neville was just pissed a shithole like Enzo got a belt (not even that he lost it, but that Enzo got it).
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Old 10-11-2017, 11:30 PM   #63
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Can't blame him for that. Literally the worst person to put it on. Sure Enzo can talk....but that's literally it.
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Old 10-11-2017, 11:33 PM   #64
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I mean, Neville might have been feeling a lot of pressure to carry a brand. The WWE likes to think that the WWE brand name carries RAW, SmackDown and the Network, but 205 Live has kind of been under a bit more of a public microscope. And Neville is the champion there. Legit heat or not, it would be reasonable for someone to feel like they are working with less of a safety net than someone slumming around on RAW.

Vince is also apparently quite hands-on with 205, and I can imagine how frustrating that could be. Vince simultaneously wanting the cruiserweights to be "exciting," but also not wanting them to deviate from the style everybody else works too, but legitimately expecting those results would seem to be well within the scope of his character.
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Can't blame him for that. Literally the worst person to put it on. Sure Enzo can talk....but that's literally it.
I don't like Enzo, but at the same time, good on them for trying something new. I mean, the dude wants to act like a star, give him the chance to back it up. And so far, in a relative sense, he's achieving that. Will it last? Probably not, because he does suck, but it's the Cruiserweight fucking Title. If I were a small guy I would be praying Vince doesn't put it on me.
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Old 10-12-2017, 12:04 AM   #66
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How close is Neville and Jacobs?

That could have a thing to do with it.
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Old 10-12-2017, 12:25 AM   #67
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Possibly. A Jerry Lawler/Kat situation?
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Old 10-12-2017, 12:52 AM   #68
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Old 10-12-2017, 02:56 AM   #69
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Old 10-12-2017, 03:14 AM   #70
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Jimmy Jacobs, ex-wwe writer. Got fired for posting a photo hanging out with the Superkick Twins and the rest of those morons when they invaded Raw.
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Old 10-12-2017, 03:52 AM   #71
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You don't think or you don't know, Destor? Do not speculate.
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Old 10-12-2017, 04:26 AM   #72
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From Dave "Tuna" Meltz:

What that means regarding Neville is still up in the air. Neville wasn’t back for the 10/10 show. At this point the belief within the company is that he’s gone, including one person close to the situation insisting he’s 100 percent gone. The company’s official word is that he is still with the company and never quit. At press time, this was a situation that wasn’t fully sorted out.
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Old 10-12-2017, 05:02 AM   #73
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Hey, if the dude isn't happy, more power to him. The better the wrestlers outside the WWE are, the better the wrestling outside WWE will be.
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:05 AM   #74
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:37 AM   #75
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PWinisider updates. Basically says he didn't walk out, he was never there. Wants to do a Drew McIntyre thing to build himself back up as he was never getting out of the cruisers otherwise and a souring point was being off of the Wrestlemania DVD as it affected his payday.

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*There have been reports that Neville walked out of Raw. That is incorrect. He was never on the road this past weekend as he did not work any of the live events and was not backstage, at any point, during Raw this past Monday. Mustafa Ali worked the Raw house shows, wrestling Enzo Amore, replacing Neville, who was originally slated for those shows.

*The original plan for Raw was Neville vs. Enzo Amore, but that was changed late in the day when it became known Neville would not be at the taping (possibly when everyone was made aware he wasn't going to be there, because there was discussion of making it a non-title match after it was noted Neville technically could "not have" a title shot vs. Enzo), the decision was made to go with Kalisto and put the belt on him as a way to tie him to the legacy of Eddie Guerrero, as it was Guerrero's birthday and he legitimately helped inspire Kalisto to get into professional wrestling.

*According to two different sources, Neville has pushed for a release with the idea of leaving the company and building his name outside of it, similar to what Drew McIntyre did prior to his return to NXT. Obviously, New Japan would be thrilled to have him back and he'd make a killing on the independent and international scene.

*We have been told there were several factors Neville was unhappy with. One source claimed a souring point was being left off of the Wrestlemania 33 DVD, which meant no royalties from what is traditionally the biggest selling WWE DVD of the year.

*Neville is still under contract to the company and has not been released. It is entirely possible the two sides will come to terms and he will return to the company, but as of right now, we are told he is not factored in any of the current plans for the Cruiserweight division or any other WWE brand and is not slated to travel to any house shows.
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Old 10-12-2017, 03:40 PM   #77
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At the moment, everything posted on this story has been nothing but "apparently" and "possibly" and "one source says" etc, with reports constantly changing. I'm just gonna wait until an official statement is posted or we see a future endeavor on WWE.com.
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Old 10-12-2017, 03:58 PM   #78
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Pfft that's no fun. Whatever the case, he wasn't at Raw. That much is clear.
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Old 10-12-2017, 06:03 PM   #79
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He probably was. We all just weren't paying attention for the entire three hours.
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Old 10-12-2017, 06:04 PM   #80
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He probably was. We all just weren't paying attention for the entire three hours.
I mean, who would pay attention to Raw? I HAVE STANDARDS
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