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Old 06-16-2018, 11:01 PM   #1
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Is Johnny Gargano overrated?
He is likable and has a nice butt -- however -- he only has one facial expression (concussed) and announcers push him as 'a nice guy' constantly like they would Roman Reigns/John Cena...

Still like him but not his booking...what do u think, is he overrated??
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Old 06-16-2018, 11:04 PM   #2
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Lol 5"10, 199 pounds. Get the fuck outta here vanilla midget.
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Old 06-16-2018, 11:05 PM   #3
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Old 06-16-2018, 11:05 PM   #4
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I feel like he is one "Johnny Gargano did it for the WWE Universe" on commentary away in booking r/n
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Old 06-16-2018, 11:06 PM   #5
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Old 06-16-2018, 11:10 PM   #6
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Keith Lee definitely looks like the dad from a 90's sitcom. It's endearing. Makes me wanna see him win and then sit down with some of the little guys on the roster for a life lesson. Great babyface look.
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Old 06-16-2018, 11:12 PM   #7
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Old 06-16-2018, 11:13 PM   #8
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Wait wait hold on a second..... that Keith Lee guy they showed is an active rassler? I legit thought he was some middle aged TV dad/D-list celebrity that I had no idea who they were......
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Gertner repped me just now and said 'post porn on owen's wall'

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Old 06-16-2018, 11:22 PM   #13
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He repped me again "JUST DO IT LOLOLOL"

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I think Johnny Gargano is overrated, but that he's objectively very, very good. He's adorable. I liked him better when he was in the team with Ciampa. I don't buy him as a bad-ass. On his own he's got those "Ultimate Underdog" vibes and not in a good way. He's like a more conventionally cuddly, perpetually concussed Daniel Bryan. Or Rey Mysterio without the mask and confirmed Hispanic background.
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I want to be optimistic about Keith Lee. He came off as legitimately comfortable and charismatic in that NXT cameo. I worry that when he goes main roster he will be treated just like every other black wrestler they get -- angry black man as a heel; big white smile as a babyface.
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Wait wait hold on a second..... that Keith Lee guy they showed is an active rassler? I legit thought he was some middle aged TV dad/D-list celebrity that I had no idea who they were......
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he's actually quite a bruiser.
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Gertner repped me just now and said 'post porn on owen's wall'

I can't do that @BN_Gert...owen is my friend!
Then post it on mine, pretend I'm the Owen you need, not the one you deserve
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I thought that was Austin Aries for half the match and he was rasslin some homeless guy
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I also hate Raw. I did want to point that out too. It was a hard choice between that and "Yes."
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I have a weird amount of interest in seeing The Miz vs. Johnny Gargano. I don't know what it is about that match, but it actually appeals to me. That's just weird because I'm not a big Miz fan. It would probably be very similar in tone to the Miz/Bryan stuff, but Bryan should be so far above Miz at this point.
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Old 06-17-2018, 12:45 AM   #26
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Old 06-17-2018, 12:47 AM   #27
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I dont know if you can call him overrated, because he isnt getting a major push, and nobody is saying he is the best.

He is a capable technician that has that whole underdog thing going, but its not like he is pegged to main event Mania.
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I dont know if you can call him overrated, because he isnt getting a major push, and nobody is saying he is the best.

He is a capable technician that has that whole underdog thing going, but its not like he is pegged to main event Mania.
He is the focal point of NXT, whatever that means. I mean, you obviously know that already, but I think it's just semantics as to whether or not you consider that "grooming" him.

And hell, I had him in mind as one of my favorite babyfaces at the end of 2016. I absolutely loved him against The Revival as the "weak link" with something to prove.
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Wasn't as good as when Daniel Bryan was the "weak link" in Team Hell No with something to prove
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Daniel Bryan had so much fire then. Something about him feels a lot more organic too. Gargano seems genuinely likable, but with Bryan it felt like you were on a journey with him. Gargano feels like they're making a big song and dance about that potential.
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I think one of the things that hurts Gargano is how much he comes across as 'Daniel Bryan' lite. We already have Daniel Bryan and he's great. Gargano was best, character-wise, as Tomasso's well-meaning but sort of clueless tag partner.
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They had a good dynamic as a team. They have very different feels to them, but both feel plucky.
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Also fucking annoying his wife keeps wishing him well before big matches

It's annoying enough when the Bellas do it, I don't need Candace to do it as well
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I'd say no although his spot in NXT is pretty much his peak in terms of star power status.

Don't really see him going beyond midcarder on the main roster especially if he's on RAW. Then again think him and Ciampa were never meant to stick around as long as they have since both were just on loan from EVOLVE at the time to help make a few stars for NXT.
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He is the focal point of NXT, whatever that means. I mean, you obviously know that already, but I think it's just semantics as to whether or not you consider that "grooming" him.

And hell, I had him in mind as one of my favorite babyfaces at the end of 2016. I absolutely loved him against The Revival as the "weak link" with something to prove.
I think the fued is the focal point, but even so, Gargano is not presented as a HUGE deal like say Shinsuke, K.O., Joe, or Balor were in NXT.
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