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Old 01-23-2018, 07:48 PM   #41
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Cena vs Styles had one moment that kind of brings it down a small bit for me. Thevsuper attitude adjustment. They just repeated the spot and the kickout. It was a jaw dropping spot in the first match. While its still a cool spot, there was virtually no drama because logically you knew they werent going to finish on a spot AJ kicked out of in the first match. Its a small complaint, but when you're talking about matches of this calibur that kind of thing can make a difference.

Conversely, the first Omega/Okada match had a huge spot where Omega hits a top rope dragon suplex. In the rematch he goes for it again but instead of just doing the same big spot over again, Okada countdrs it. Its that kind of long term storytelling in feuds and matches that has attracted people to njpw, and its what they should have done in Cena vs Styles.
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Old 01-24-2018, 08:13 AM   #42
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Perhaps it's unfair to have WWE matches in the same category since 80% of the people here only watch WWE.
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Old 01-30-2018, 02:21 PM   #43
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Styles vs. Cena was better though. Just saying.
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All the matches were good and these awards are made up. Stop arguing.
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Styles vs. Cena was better though. Just saying.
it realllllly wasnt'
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Old 02-01-2018, 10:21 PM   #49
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Not even close. I watched Cena vs Styles live, and it was formulaic and kind of boring tbh. I guess it was "good" but their Summerslam match was better (I think you're talking about the RR match) and that wasn't better than the match in question. You're just a h8r pure and simple and you show it with almost every post.
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Old 02-10-2018, 06:51 PM   #52
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Definitely talking about the RR match. Loved it. Felt the emotion coming from both men. Didn't see the SummerSlam match. Saw Okada/Omega I and felt it was overrated with spots that took me out of the action. It was like someone writing a novel with too many exclamation marks, or unnecessary verbosity. The missile dropkick to the back of the head? Pass. The dragon superplex? Hard pass. The back body drop through the table? Next. I can remember those spots, granted, but I don't remember the finish, nor do I remember feeling any particular love for goofball Omega. I was rooting for Okada, but that's because he's generally awesome.

There's probably a WWE-bias lens on here, because, to me, seeing AJ Styles wrestling at the RR in such an important match carries with it inherent emotional weight. But that's not something that I think you need to separate from a match when judging it. That's something kind of earned and carried by the cache of each performer and the event itself. AJ Styles is as close as you're going to get to a perfect performer in professional wrestling in 2017 or 2018, and seeing him work his magic in that environment was wonderful. Don't care about Omega nearly as much -- and that's because he hasn't made me care, and actively does things that make me switch off -- like goofy faces and switching off my emotions during that match in particular.

The person saying that Omega vs. Okada series built in terms of psychology -- cool. I didn't watch the others. Didn't feel the urge to. Not because I'm a hater, but because I didn't get invested. I thought it was a great match overall -- don't get me wrong. Take out those dumb spots and it was...fine. I don't remember much about it. I remember it flying past for a 40-minute match or whatever. But Styles vs. Cena hooked me start to finish and had me wrapped around their fingers. So much better. I might even go back and watch it now.
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I might be overrating the psychology in Styles/Cena. It's been a while since I've seen it. I remember having no problems at the time and just enjoying the fuck out of it. And I was on a big psychology kick. Kind of felt like the psychology in Omega vs. Okada was non-existent. Things just happened because they can happen. They might have tried to tell a story when it came to the end. I remember them both being exhausted and just lying around trying to hit their finishes. It feels like the most rudimentary wrestling match plot, which is a good thing, but should also kind of be the bare minimum, you know?
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