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Old 05-06-2018, 11:52 PM   #1
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Does RAW have a lack of credible heels?

Sami/KO/Baron/Dolph/Jinder don't really seem like 'credible threats' to big faces on RAW...unless someone turns heel does RAW have a heel problem r/n in your opinion?
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Old 05-06-2018, 11:59 PM   #2
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Losing Joe, Braun turning face, and Lesnar never developing a heel Final Boss type gimmick really hurt the brand for big heel stars. Same for Bray being reduced to joke status as a big heel threat.

Right now the only credible big heels they have are arguably Ziggy with McIntyre and Elias.
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Old 05-07-2018, 12:10 AM   #3
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It seems like Ziggy/Drew Mac are going to play in the tag division for a while

Sami/KO seem like heels who will be over, the way Miz is, but lose all the time (more than Miz did)
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Old 05-07-2018, 12:37 AM   #4
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Dreading the start of Jinder and Baron as main-event heels on RAW
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Old 05-07-2018, 01:00 AM   #5
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This is another part of the problem with the "big" title not actually being on the show regularly.

What do you even have "main event" heels go after? Roman? There's no water in that pool. Joe has been pretty over, and we saw what the end result of him going after Roman was. When it came time for the match, everyone turned on it pretty quickly--which admittedly wasn't helped by a horrible match layout.

They're just going to kick the can down the road, I suspect, since most of the allure of MitB is a bunch of dudes falling off of ladders.

It's probably going to be Jinder vs Roman, and I think that is legitimately atrocious enough that they may actually feel some pain from people turning away.
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Old 05-07-2018, 01:03 AM   #6
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Yeah, think I already asked this in some other thread.

As in I asked "who's the big heel on RAW" or something. But yeah, those guys are lame, you can expect them to get dismantled over and over again. You don't expect Sami to go over Roman, do you now?
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Old 05-07-2018, 01:26 AM   #7
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They should bring Enzo back with a rape gimmick.
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Old 05-07-2018, 01:32 AM   #8
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Make Bill Cosby his blind mentor that taught him everything he knows about date rape and Roman Polanski his manager.
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Old 05-07-2018, 02:54 PM   #9
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Even if they turn Lashley or Balor heel I don't see either getting some big run out of it...maybe Jason Jordan will be a top heel when he returns or Dean Ambrose...I donut know
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Heels don't need credibility. They are supposed to get BOOED. The worse the heels are the cooler Roman Reigns will look.
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Old 05-07-2018, 03:15 PM   #11
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Heels don't need credibility. They are supposed to get BOOED. The worse the heels are the cooler Roman Reigns will look.
*cough cough/ X-Pac heat *cough cough*
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Old 05-08-2018, 08:40 AM   #12
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Old 05-08-2018, 09:08 AM   #13
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Elias is going to be the top heel. Jason Jordan will be the second legit heel.

Owen's will be the pussy heel who always gets whooped on. Something that is needed.
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Old 05-08-2018, 09:08 AM   #14
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Why does everyone forget about Elias? He has superstar potential oozing out of him.
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Old 05-08-2018, 09:44 AM   #15
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Elias is awesome he just never wins it seems
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Old 05-08-2018, 10:29 AM   #16
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Didnt he beat Roode twice clean?
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Old 05-08-2018, 10:47 AM   #17
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idk maybe I don't pay attention to Bob Roode matches tbh b/c I think he should be a heel

He might have tho!
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Old 05-08-2018, 11:15 AM   #18
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Roman Reigns should just come out to the ring, not say anything and take a dump in the ring. Then leave. That's pretty much where hes at now
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Old 05-08-2018, 11:30 AM   #19
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Raw definitely lacks credible heels. Thats a big reason it's so boring right now. For the first time in a long time I am really uninterested in watching raw on pvr and fast forwarding through it. The only interesting thing is Braun now that Elias is booked like a chump.
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Old 05-08-2018, 11:37 AM   #20
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yeah to be a credible heel you got to be able to beat other main-eventers in matches
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Old 05-08-2018, 01:42 PM   #21
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Elias is awesome he just never wins it seems
Yay, he was my pick for TPDub survivor!
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Old 05-08-2018, 02:03 PM   #22
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Drew McIntyre he looks ready to go.
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Drew McIntyre he looks ready to go.
Except he is with Dolph
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