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Old 02-23-2017, 02:41 PM   #1
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You know NXT.... you're getting kinda fat


Obviously a joke.... lord knows I'm miles away from single digit body fat. Has anyone else notice the "turn" in the style of big men featured in NXT? It seems to be less of a focus on lean, ripped "Ryback" style big men, and more of the throwback imposing figure big men in the case of the Machine guys and Killian Dane in Sanity. Do you think it's better to have these kind of Vader/ Bundy style big men, or do you prefer the Batista style mountain of muscles?



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Old 02-23-2017, 03:38 PM   #2
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Old 02-23-2017, 04:19 PM   #3
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Old 02-23-2017, 07:11 PM   #4
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Think Triple H mentioned it once or twice before about his vision for NXT and WWE is favoring a more balanced roster when it came to body types and pushes unlike Vince. Wants something similar to classic NWA as his goal.

Just soo happened the recent batch of tv ready people included more fat guys to help round out the tv roster for NXT.
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Old 02-23-2017, 04:42 PM   #5
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Gonna say; can't we have both as little no as they're good?
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Gonna say; can't we have both as little no as they're good?
I agree variety is good. I am actually pretty impressed by the Heavy Machine guys, I can honestly see them getting over as a monster face team on the main roster because of their energy and goofy antics.

I'm just asking, in your opinion, do you prefer a particular type of "big man"?
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Old 02-24-2017, 10:18 AM   #7
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I agree variety is good. I am actually pretty impressed by the Heavy Machine guys, I can honestly see them getting over as a monster face team on the main roster because of their energy and goofy antics.

I'm just asking, in your opinion, do you prefer a particular type of "big man"?


Luke Harper is my jam, he's not afraid to kick people in the face and that involves a lot of coordination for big dudes.
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It's not about how fat they are, about how talented they are and whether they are booked correctly.

Talented big men, regardless of whether it's fat or muscle is fine.

Talentless big men booked as destroyers to hide their lack of ability can sod off. I'm looking at you Authors of Pain.
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It's not about how fat they are, about how talented they are and whether they are booked correctly.

Talented big men, regardless of whether it's fat or muscle is fine.

Talentless big men booked as destroyers to hide their lack of ability can sod off. I'm looking at you Authors of Pain.
Fat turds up and down the roster isnt going to make any money.

Im looking at you Kevin Steen
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Fat turds up and down the roster isnt going to make any money.

Im looking at you Kevin Steen
I'd be willing to bet it makes the same money as it does now. No one seems to care anymore, just tune in for their soap opera fix.
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Old 02-23-2017, 06:25 PM   #11
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I like to see all types of body's except Chris Hero's.
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Old 02-23-2017, 06:26 PM   #13
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Only watc the Takeovers now as the draft killed it in one night
It did really suffer from that but the roster has started to regain depth again.

Pretty happy the UK guys are there too now. Think they can add a lot.

Currently watching Mandrews/Dunne.

Got tickets to the company they set up in a weeks time as well. Dunne isn't there this time but Andrews is. Always a good night.
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Old 02-23-2017, 09:09 PM   #15
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It's good to have a mixture. I was just thinking the other day about how they don't really have ANY muscular guys in the same vein as a John Cena. It might be time to start putting Tino Sabbatelli and Dan Matha on TV.
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still need jacked up dudes but also those big vader/bigelow types.

Chris Hero isn't anything. As I said before he has the body type of cottage cheese making him completely unbelievable.
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I buy Chris Hero just as much as I buy Kevin Owens. Hero is also taller.
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Old 02-23-2017, 10:57 PM   #18
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I don't, Noid. Owens isn't the most intimidating guy on the roster by any stretch, but he's waaaay more intimidating than Hero. Hero literally looks like Humpty Dumpty with that body and scrawny little arms.
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On topic though I'm cool with what they're doing. If they can find a musclebound Hercules who can actually wrestle and has charisma I'm game, but if he's just there for the muscle then there's absolutely no point at all and he'll just be wasting space.
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Noid, have you ever played sports/worked out? I'm not asking to be a prick, just curious.
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Noid, have you ever played sports/worked out? I'm not asking to be a prick, just curious.
Yes to both. Are you going to try and convince me that Kevin Owens looks like a rugby player again?
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Yes to both. Are you going to try and convince me that Kevin Owens looks like a rugby player again?
I played Rugby for like 15 years, he looks like a rugby player. Try not being a twat Noid.
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I played Rugby for like 15 years, he looks like a rugby player. Try not being a twat Noid.
He looks like a guy who sits around eating hohos all day
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Cuz Chris Hero looks like he does nothing other than eat potato chips.

Kevin Owens reminds me of Roy Nelson, a surprisingly fit fat MMA fighter.
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Old 02-24-2017, 12:08 AM   #25
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You need all types of bodies. If everyone looks the same, no one will care. As long as they are entertaining and can draw and earn you money, you gotta hire them.

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You need all types of bodies. If everyone looks the same, no one will care. As long as they are entertaining and can draw and earn you money, you gotta hire them.

On a side note, Ohno could stand to lose a bit....or at least a change in attire....
His attire is a HUGE part of the problem. While he still needs to do something about his physique if he'd change his attire he'd look 1000x better.
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I think Ohno has legit issues with his weight. Dude has ridiculous cardio and can do long, athletic matches. But he can't keel the weight off
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Kevin Owens is afraid to take his shirt off to fight; Roy Nelson is not. They present Owens as a fat kid too afraid to go swimming.
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I've said this from the beginning: Kevin Owens = Tank Abbott in the UFC and I don't mean that as an insult. I LOVED Tank Abbott.
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I think he's got to produce more manliness to really get that vibe across. He feels way too geeky and witty. Like he'd rather troll someone on the internet than actually get in a fight with them.
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Is it me, or does every big indy name debut in NXT by going after the champion? Can't remember if Roode did or not... just feels like they all do, though.
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Is it me, or does every big indy name debut in NXT by going after the champion? Can't remember if Roode did or not... just feels like they all do, though.
It kind of does, because Triple H has been very savvy in getting the top indy talent signed to try and bolster his brand and cred. So when they come in hot, there is that wave of energy to jump on and book the title match with. But he's in a predicament now where he needs to try and get guys like No Way Jose up to the NXT main event level.
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As best I can tell, Owens has never wrestled without a shirt. Even way back when he was 20 and slimmer. It's always been his look. It's not like he just one day went "welp, I'm fat now - better cover up".
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As best I can tell, Owens has never wrestled without a shirt. Even way back when he was 20 and slimmer. It's always been his look. It's not like he just one day went "welp, I'm fat now - better cover up".
And he looks like an indy geek. I also didn't say it was entirely his choice to look like that. The company has seemingly given that directive to him. Watch how quickly he used to scramble to pull his shirt down if it'd ride up (I can't remember the match where I saw this, but it definitely happened at least once) and now he wears a singlet under it.

Also, he used to wrestle in a singlet:
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As best I can tell, Owens has never wrestled without a shirt. Even way back when he was 20 and slimmer. It's always been his look. It's not like he just one day went "welp, I'm fat now - better cover up".
Maybe he has a third nipple that he doesn't want anyone to see?
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Noid you always chirp the CyNick but you're worse than he ever was these days.
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Noid you always chirp the CyNick but you're worse than he ever was these days.
For somebody who by his own admission has enjoyed very little of the product since 2008 and only seems to watch in small spurts now, he sure bitches about it a lot.
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For somebody who by his own admission has enjoyed very little of the product since 2008 and only seems to watch in small spurts now, he sure bitches about it a lot.
I think maybe that's the problem.

When I stopped really watching the product between September 2015 and May 2016, I found myself really disliking it and I was so close to stopping all together.

I only watched Raw sporadically and when I did, I would skip pretty much the entire show. Eventually, I just stopped watching Raw completely and just watched PPV's, still skipping past most of the events.

I didn't like the majority of the new talent (or what was new to me at the time), the angles, the decisions that were being made, I found Raw to be terrible and SmackDown to be "Raw V2" and a whole lot of other stupid stuff.

Luckily for me though, the Brand Split was happening soon, and that gave me the opportunity of a "fresh start" so to speak.

Beginning then, I watched both Raw and SmackDown with open minds and I let things develop. New talent arrived and even though I didn't like most at first, I still gave them the chance to win me over and over time, it worked. For example, like I said in the SmackDown thread and others before it, I really didn't like Alexa Bliss at first but I kept watching her and she won me over.

I think the reason I didn't like what I was watching before was because I wasn't invested in the product. I wasn't watching because I really wanted to, I was watching because I felt I needed to. It was just a habit. I wasn't following angles and watching other matches and because I wasn't following them, I was lost and I had no idea what was going on and things didn't make sense and because of that, I thought it was because the product was shit.

It also really didn't help things that a little bit of me was watching with my nostalgia glasses on.

Now, I enjoy SmackDown more than Raw, I very rarely skip things but when I do, it's pretty much just the Cruiserweight matches, as after giving the division around five months to win me over, I just knew it wasn't clicking for me.

So I think in order to enjoy the product, investment is needed. You're not going to really enjoy the product if you just watch sporadically.
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Didn't realize Steen worse a singlet. He looks worse in that than he does wearing a T-shirt, IMO.

I'm with Gertner on the Tank Abbott comparisons.
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