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Old 06-02-2017, 01:03 PM   #201
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Early on in the characters history , getting tied up was a frequent occurence, to the point where people believe there was a deliberate erotic tone to it.
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Old 06-02-2017, 01:04 PM   #202
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Oh, and good thing there were no kids in the audience because my theater accidentally played a couple red band trailers before the feature.
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Old 06-02-2017, 01:06 PM   #203
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What am I saying, it would have been hilarious if there were kids there.
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Old 06-02-2017, 01:10 PM   #204
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No idea what Red Band trailers are.
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Old 06-02-2017, 01:10 PM   #205
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Oh, ok. Dubbed with some naughty lines.
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Old 06-02-2017, 01:23 PM   #206
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Old 06-02-2017, 01:28 PM   #207
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I wonder if they decided to do it in WWI because Captain America took place in WW2 and they didn't want to seem like they were copying them?
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Old 06-02-2017, 01:33 PM   #208
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I think whatever the reason it was a good idea.

There are plenty of movies that take place during WWII, only a few during WWI.
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Old 06-02-2017, 02:50 PM   #209
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I'm a big fan of the character, and to be honest, I actually like the change to a long lived character. It fits her, and her people very well.
I'm not opposed to the change for Wonder Woman. Amazons are long lived, so they aren't changing that part.

Only part why it is "weird" is it meaning her traditional supporting cast will all be dead in the present. At least Captain America had a traditional supporting cast waiting for him in the present.
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Old 06-02-2017, 02:57 PM   #210
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From what I can see only her bf will be dead, her amazon family/friends are just as long-lived as she is.
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Credits rolling now. While the critique that this does nothing for the canon of the DC film continuity is absolutely true as predicted this movie os stellar.

Chris Pine may have been good but anyone sayimg Gadot didnt steal the show watched a doff picture than i did. It might be the best super hero performance to date.

SPOILER: show
ares gets my vote for best villian too


Realy enjoyed it. Hope this is their tone going forward.
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Destor typically a harsh critic. Glad he enjoyed it. Looking forward to Sunday!
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Old 06-03-2017, 12:01 AM   #213
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Really good movie, id give it around an 8/10.
Def the best DC movie.
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Old 06-03-2017, 01:52 AM   #214
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Just saw it. Loved it. Kickass, Fun, Good characters and good action/fight sequences. Gal Gadot comes across as a huge star.

Stalls a bit in the middle but I thought the setting worked perfect and I liked her character arc in the movie.
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Old 06-03-2017, 09:20 AM   #215
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Credits rolling now. While the critique that this does nothing for the canon of the DC film continuity is absolutely true as predicted this movie os stellar.

Chris Pine may have been good but anyone sayimg Gadot didnt steal the show watched a doff picture than i did. It might be the best super hero performance to date.

SPOILER: show
ares gets my vote for best villian too


Realy enjoyed it. Hope this is their tone going forward.
Holy shit. Destor is never this positive with movies. Hell, he was even against Skill Island. Was excited about seeing this before but.this gives me all kind of hope.
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Old 06-03-2017, 10:17 AM   #216
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I dont give a lot of 9/10s and i next to never give 10/10s. But i think this is a 9/10 because it has such a strong cultural impact. I think 15 years from now the movie will be a part of a shift within not only the genre but he industry. There were a lot of achievements going into this and it all came together in a really satisfying picture.

I cant rave enough about the star power Gadot brings to the screen. She has a vulnerability that is endearing but manages to straddle the line amd have a strength that is incredible and hats off to Patty Jenkins for figuring out how to walk that line. Wondy could have easily come off as weak but she absolutely doesn't.

SPOILER: show
the plot itself was very strong. The defeat of ares was meaningless. And that was bold. Defeatkng the big bad truely meant nothing, it changed nothing.the day was saved but not the world. Thats a ballsy move for a summer blockbuster and makes a fabulous statement about the nsture of humanity all the while demonstrating Wondys heart and character. Amd the 3rd act reveal was well handled as well.


My only grips were that it stalled at the top of the 3rd act, the green screen matting was generally so poor that i was aware i was watching a film, that the film does nothing not only for the greater canon of the brand but even for the franchise and
SPOILER: show
and that they played pine as a love intrest. Im of the opinion that Wondy should have been sexless.at least for the first go. It would have made a better statement...in my opinion.
But these are small gripes for me. I really think this among the best of the genre.

It stands up with Winter Soldier which in my opinion is the best super hero film to date.
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You guys are right that this movie doesn't add much to the canon, but it does give audiences a reason to latch onto the character before Justice League comes out. You can let audiences learn more about aquaman, flash, and cyborg when that movie comes out, but the trinity should be firmly established before JL hits. This movie accomplishes that for Wonder Woman.
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I would certainly have it do too little than do too much ala BvS
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Old 06-03-2017, 06:39 PM   #220
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But ultimately these are serials so you want something from them in that regard. But again, im not saying the film is worse for not having it. I just would have liked *something* connecting it to a larger narrative.
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It "kinda" does, with that picture being from BvS. They just did it backwards.
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Also gonna add that I was worried Gal Gadot wouldn't look the part, as she's skinny, and not the first frame I would look at when thinking piwerful warrior, but again she pullled it off.
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Did anyone else notice that

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It "kinda" does, with that picture being from BvS. They just did it backwards.
Only in the sense it acknowledged the greater universe. But it doesnt advance anything or add any wrinkles elsewhere. And it dlesnt have to, to be fair.
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I will, at some point.

Much like Sixx, I've just never really been into the character, and trailers didn't really do anything for me. But I do go to see all comic book/superhero movies in the cinema, so I'll maybe go see it Wednesday.
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No spoilers here. But 9/10. The movie was great. Gadot came off as a huge star. Pine was great. Even the backup characters served a purpose in furthering Diana's character.

The fight scenes were good. And honestly, when she finally debuted in full outfit, I teared up. I don't have any history with the character, but the dad came out in me.

I saw this movie and thought to myself that I cannot wait until my daughter is old enough to see and understand this. They write Diana in such a way that's both adorable, sweet and naive but strong, independent, and fierce.

Absolute landmark film for D.C. and they finally did something marvel hasn't and now can't. The definitive super heroine film, imo.
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Also gonna add that I was worried Gal Gadot wouldn't look the part, as she's skinny, and not the first frame I would look at when thinking piwerful warrior, but again she pullled it off.
She's filled out quite a bit. And looks very athletic and strong, just not thick. But yeah, she nailed this
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No spoilers here. But 9/10. The movie was great. Gadot came off as a huge star. Pine was great. Even the backup characters served a purpose in furthering Diana's character.

The fight scenes were good. And honestly, when she finally debuted in full outfit, I teared up. I don't have any history with the character, but the dad came out in me.

I saw this movie and thought to myself that I cannot wait until my daughter is old enough to see and understand this. They write Diana in such a way that's both adorable, sweet and naive but strong, independent, and fierce.

Absolute landmark film for D.C. and they finally did something marvel hasn't and now can't. The definitive super heroine film, imo.
Are we pretending Cat Woman doesn't exist?
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Old 06-04-2017, 12:34 PM   #230
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Old 06-04-2017, 07:21 PM   #231
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Old 06-04-2017, 09:22 PM   #232
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How the hell is the only hero in the Snyderverse that's an actual hero is Wonder Woman?

Batman is more Crazy Uncle Steve (Credit: Linkara) meets Homicidal early incarnation Batman.
Superman does the right thing because it benefits him. The Objectivist Superhero.
Wonder Woman does the right thing because... it's the right thing to do.

And kudos for not doing the obvious cheesy line when they brought up "No Man's Land."
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Old 06-04-2017, 09:47 PM   #233
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Just saw it, and I too highly enjoyed it. 9/10.

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Scene where Wonder Woman comes out of the trench, crosses no man's land and saves that town had me feeling goosebumps and smiling from ear to ear.

Ultimately I loved the WWI setting and stuff, but at the same time I am still a bit "put off" by what it means in the "larger sense".

At the end of the movie Wonder Woman has learned that "only love can save the world", and that even though humanity isn't perfect they are worth protecting and helping..........

But then she just goes into hiding from WWI to present. I hope this is somehow dealt with and explained in a satisfactory matter.


Anyways, the movie was so good that it even briefly filled me with the desire to rewatch the atrocity that was BvS just to see Wonder Woman more.
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When Steve was on the plane flying it away, did anyone else think he was going to take the plane down into the water and be frozen in a block of ice until modern times?
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The Wonder Woman theme (the one also in BvS) also grew on me...... I like it now..... but every time I try to "hum it", I end up humming the "Get Smart" theme........
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Still thinking about this movie....

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I think part of what makes it so good and refreshing is that we have a hero who just genuinely wants to go out and help people because it is the right thing to do.

Feel like all other modern superhero movies have the heroes either dealing with some "personal battle" or "fixing/cleaning up after their own mistakes" or "stumbling onto a situation where they end up getting drawn in and saving the world"

It's never just been "Hey, you know what's the right thing to do? Help people."
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Still thinking about this movie....

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I think part of what makes it so good and refreshing is that we have a hero who just genuinely wants to go out and help people because it is the right thing to do.

Feel like all other modern superhero movies have the heroes either dealing with some "personal battle" or "fixing/cleaning up after their own mistakes" or "stumbling onto a situation where they end up getting drawn in and saving the world"

It's never just been "Hey, you know what's the right thing to do? Help people."
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This was what I appreciated about the film. It also why spidey is my fav hero. Good for the sake of good.
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Old 06-04-2017, 11:42 PM   #238
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Still thinking about this movie....

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I think part of what makes it so good and refreshing is that we have a hero who just genuinely wants to go out and help people because it is the right thing to do.

Feel like all other modern superhero movies have the heroes either dealing with some "personal battle" or "fixing/cleaning up after their own mistakes" or "stumbling onto a situation where they end up getting drawn in and saving the world"

It's never just been "Hey, you know what's the right thing to do? Help people."
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This is what drives me nuts about Superman in both Man of Steel and BvS. It seems he saves the world not because he genuinely wants to because he feels it's the right thing to do, but more like because he can so, meh, why not. At no point does he seem to actually want to be Superman.

Whereas Diana 100% believes that because she has the ability it is her duty to serve and fight for those who cannot. It's inspiring. Superman isn't.

Absolutely loved her characterization.
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