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Old 06-24-2017, 08:03 PM   #81
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Joe's win is officially listed as a knockout, which under current rules isn't an elimination. I'd personally count it as a legit loss and elimination worthy but that's not the rules this season at least, and guys have done it before and not been eliminated (nobody who survived a KO or pass out finish has ever gone on to win ftr). By the rules Roman survives this one, like he would a countout or DQ loss.

I wouldn't count a towel throw as an elimination since that's such a bullshit finish, "I Quit" matches are also a grey area. Technically you could class "quitting" as a submission but most of the time it's some ridiculous spot.

Jeff is not even a case, Adamle is just super salty that DAMN iNATOR has bested him in artistic combat.
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Old 06-24-2017, 08:57 PM   #82
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I eliminated him first... and besides, since I'm now in charge of TPWW Survivor I will clarify that in 2 out of 3 falls matches there needs to be a decisive winner and loser for falls to count. Jeff Hardy is still in.
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Old 06-24-2017, 09:08 PM   #83
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mike adamle's title reign is now erased from history and has been awarded to DAMN iNATOR.
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Old 06-24-2017, 09:34 PM   #84
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:30 PM   #85
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Wrong again! DAMN iNATOR is now like Mojo Rawley is every season; banned from TPWW Survivor. Now he can't even be the first one eliminated. I may ban you from playing next season too, Ultra Mantis.
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Old 06-24-2017, 11:07 PM   #86
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Wrong again! DAMN iNATOR is now like Mojo Rawley is every season; banned from TPWW Survivor. Now he can't even be the first one eliminated. I may ban you from playing next season too, Ultra Mantis.
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Old 06-24-2017, 11:09 PM   #87
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That joke was shittier than your plumbing.
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Old 06-25-2017, 10:23 AM   #88
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Dunno why you're so salty about Jeff Hardy getting pinned though adamle, you didn't even pick him. In fact you weren't even in this season. If anyone should be upset about the actual rules it should be Noid right?
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Old 06-25-2017, 07:50 PM   #89
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That's fake news and you know it. Don't be upset that I'm running this and I might let you in next season.
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Old 06-26-2017, 12:41 AM   #90
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Dunno why you're so salty about Jeff Hardy getting pinned though adamle, you didn't even pick him. In fact you weren't even in this season. If anyone should be upset about the actual rules it should be Noid right?
Oh man is Noid gonna be PISSED when he sees this!

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Should prob DQ mike adamle for next season too.

As much as I want Roman out, technically he is still in.
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Old 06-26-2017, 04:38 PM   #92
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I'll be in charge next season so that's not happening, I'm not letting you use either of your names next season though
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Old 06-26-2017, 04:44 PM   #93
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I really really wish Mojo Rawley was unbanned from this game. Mojo. You should unban Mojo and ban me instead because I am much less entertaining than Mojo Rawley.
Hey that's actually a really nice gesture, adamle, we'll definitely go forward with that.
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Old 06-26-2017, 07:17 PM   #94
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Should prob DQ mike adamle for next season too.

As much as I want Roman out, technically he is still in.
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Hey that's actually a really nice gesture, adamle, we'll definitely go forward with that.
Very magnanimous indeed. I for one, approve. 💪👍
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Mike I am picking up a vibe from you that you might live in a slightly different reality than us.

Besides, the looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand

Or, so I've read.
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I must say Mike suddenly and actually does make an absurd amount of sense. I can see his point in the fact the 2 of 3 falls should only count for the winner and since it was a draw she shouldn't be eliminated.

The exact same can be said for Nia vs. Sasha. These ladies will be battling each other for the next 5 or more years so we should be looking at the winner of the war, not the battle. Therefore, Nia is still in this. Since she is my pick I will keep track of the win/loss recrod against each other as I only feel that is fair. I will post the results in this thread when one of them retires. Until that point Nia is still in this.
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I must say Mike suddenly and actually does make an absurd amount of sense. I can see his point in the fact the 2 of 3 falls should only count for the winner and since it was a draw she shouldn't be eliminated.

The exact same can be said for Nia vs. Sasha. These ladies will be battling each other for the next 5 or more years so we should be looking at the winner of the war, not the battle. Therefore, Nia is still in this. Since she is my pick I will keep track of the win/loss recrod against each other as I only feel that is fair. I will post the results in this thread when one of them retires. Until that point Nia is still in this.
The match overall was a draw in 2 out of 3 falls, however, each fall can be looked at as kind of a match within the match, thus Sheanus pinning Jeff (Hard, about a 9.7/10) in the first fall should indeed count as an elimination.

As for Nia, she was the last competitor v. Sasha in the gauntlet last night. Sasha made her submit for the final elimination and won the entire gauntlet match, therefore, sorry, but Nia is GONE, unfortunately for you.
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IIRC, though, Roman didn't actually tap, he just passed out, which isn't an elimination under current TPWW Survivor rules.
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And what type of maneuver is this considered to be?
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It was a submission. He lost to a submission move. He yielded. He submitted. The rules dont say he has to tap. Roman Reigns is eliminated.
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The rules say he has to submit and the official results say he got knocked the fuck out. He's a big dog. Big dogs don't quit.
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Old 06-27-2017, 06:51 PM   #108
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He didnt get knocked out. He submitted. He was forced to submit due to being choked out. Come on man. Common sense here.

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He didn't get knocked out.
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Old 06-27-2017, 07:37 PM   #110
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He lost to a submission move. How is this hard?
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Old 06-27-2017, 07:40 PM   #111
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A loss is a loss. Rules are lame.
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He was in a submission move and got KO'd because he refused to submit. So he didn't submit, he lost via KO, it was announced he lost via KO, ever set of results says he lost by KO. If he actually submitted he'd be out, but he didn't. He got knocked out. Getting knocked out is not an elimination regardless of whether he gets knocked out by a strike, a submission hold or slamming his head against a keyboard from explaining this repeatedly.
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Old 06-27-2017, 07:47 PM   #113
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In response to Destor's comment, this is why I will be taking over next season. The rules will be clear and Jeff Hardy, Nia Jax, and even Mojo Rawley would still be in it while Roman Reigns would be out via submission. This guy is worse than an NBA ref
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Old 06-27-2017, 11:27 PM   #114
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A loss is a loss. Rules are lame.
Really short season when the royal rumble comes up.
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The match overall was a draw in 2 out of 3 falls, however, each fall can be looked at as kind of a match within the match, thus Sheanus pinning Jeff (Hard, about a 9.7/10) in the first fall should indeed count as an elimination.

As for Nia, she was the last competitor v. Sasha in the gauntlet last night. Sasha made her submit for the final elimination and won the entire gauntlet match, therefore, sorry, but Nia is GONE, unfortunately for you.
I was kidding. Of course she is out. I was being absurd.
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Really short season when the royal rumble comes up.
That would be fun tbf. Would make the rumble more excting for the participants. HOWEVER I could understand not counting battle royals
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Yes but a fun thing about tag matches is hoping your partner gets pinned if your Tag Team has to take a loss. Which is why Big E usually ends up in 2nd place.
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Yes but a fun thing about tag matches is hoping your partner gets pinned if your Tag Team has to take a loss. Which is why Big E usually ends up in 2nd place.
That rule makes sense.
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Yes but a fun thing about tag matches is hoping your partner gets pinned if your Tag Team has to take a loss. Which is why Big E usually ends up in 2nd place.
Yeah, was for sure Matt was a goner this week. Thankfully Finn made the save out of nowhere.
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I do think knockouts should count as eliminations for the record, since all the finish does is protect the already protected top babys. But that's not what the rules are and it's unfair to change them midway through a season.

Losing via count out, DQ, tag partner taking the fall, object retrieval, cage escape, battle royale, shut in a casket/ambulance, etc shouldn't count though.

Last man standing and I quit matches are grey areas because in some cases they could be a KO or submission, but sometimes it's being duct taped to a ringpost.
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