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Old 10-08-2017, 06:10 PM   #41
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To this day, Dale doesn't believe me when I tell him that El Dandy came out and hit Big Show with the corpse of George Hackenshmidt on an episode of raw. But thats what he gets for changing the channel
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Old 10-08-2017, 06:13 PM   #42
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Yeah, that was a good episode.
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Old 10-08-2017, 06:13 PM   #43
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It's available on Youtube, Figgy
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Old 10-08-2017, 06:14 PM   #44
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David Arquette... hands down. Was pushed to the MOON and was completely undeserving IMO.
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Wrestling doesn't offer the same fresh content as a self contained 2 hour movie does. Even if I "miss" something, I'm not really missing anything. Pretty much seen it all, and can dig it on Youtube.
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Old 10-08-2017, 06:15 PM   #46
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David Arquette... hands down. Was pushed to the MOON and was completely undeserving IMO.
He paid his fucking dues with Sal Banditti.
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Old 10-08-2017, 06:16 PM   #47
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Events lose their luster once you already know what happened. You're not a spoiler reader, are you? I'll never understand those people.
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Old 10-08-2017, 06:43 PM   #48
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Spoilers don't bother me.

I'm a channel changer too. I used to flip back and forth between WCW and WWF!
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Old 10-08-2017, 06:55 PM   #49
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Spoilers don't bother me.

I'm a channel changer too. I used to flip back and forth between WCW and WWF!
You really don't think you'd get more enjoyment out of a surprise or a twist?
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Old 10-08-2017, 06:59 PM   #50
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Wrestling doesn't offer the same fresh content as a self contained 2 hour movie does. Even if I "miss" something, I'm not really missing anything. Pretty much seen it all, and can dig it on Youtube.
Remember when wrestling used to be compelling "can't miss" television every week? I wonder how many people have tuned out because they've realized almost none of it matters?
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Old 10-08-2017, 07:10 PM   #51
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You really don't think you'd get more enjoyment out of a surprise or a twist?
I think it's negligible for me. Two of my favorite films of all time were spoiled for me. Fight Club and The Sixth Sense. Still loved them.

To be honest, I remember the ones where I knew the ending best.
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Old 10-08-2017, 07:13 PM   #52
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They would have been better had you not known the endings. I'm not saying things are impossible to enjoy with spoilers, but I'd imagine it would HAVE to be better without.
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Old 10-08-2017, 08:44 PM   #53
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Possibly, but it's bever been something that I felt gipped about. I remember more "surprises" I hated than enjoyed for some reason. Worst thing ever was Vince being the guy who kidnapped his daughter and controlled Undertaker followed by The Village.
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Old 10-08-2017, 10:49 PM   #54
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You're just being difficult. Surprises are dope.
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Old 10-09-2017, 01:04 AM   #55
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It depends on whether the surprise makes sense or not. Sometimes they ruin the flow of what you are enjoying. See: Almost every single M. Night Shyamalan film ever.
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Old 10-09-2017, 04:30 AM   #56
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You're just being difficult. Surprises are dope.
I'm really not trying to be. This isn't me doing a thing.

My favorite "surprise" was during Zombieland. When "you know who" made his appearance. Great stuff and it worked so well.
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Old 10-09-2017, 04:35 AM   #57
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To this day, Dale doesn't believe me when I tell him that El Dandy came out and hit Big Show with the corpse of George Hackenshmidt on an episode of raw. But thats what he gets for changing the channel
So, what you're saying is: Dale doubts El Dandy?

Who is he to do so?
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Old 10-09-2017, 08:08 AM   #58
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I'm going to play a heel and say Andre The Giant. Still headlining Wrasslemanias when he couldn't even stand up without the ropes. He was over and it was successful but it wasn't deserved by that point IMO.
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Old 10-09-2017, 09:49 AM   #59
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He drew 92000 people with Hogan. What more do you want?
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Shoulda been Rugged Ronnie Garvin in that main even god dammit
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He drew 92000 people with Hogan. What more do you want?
That number is fake news
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It depends on whether the surprise makes sense or not. Sometimes they ruin the flow of what you are enjoying. See: Almost every single M. Night Shyamalan film ever.
The end of last night's PPV was good as a surprise.
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That number is fake news
79,000 then.
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Old 10-09-2017, 10:21 AM   #64
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Triple H was a decent hand who happened to be friends with the right people and then slept his way to the top.
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It depends on whether the surprise makes sense or not. Sometimes they ruin the flow of what you are enjoying. See: Almost every single M. Night Shyamalan film ever.
Obviously you're going to run that risk, but wouldn't you rather be surprised than not? If you're just going to ASSUME that it COULD suck, that seems pessimistic to me.
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I'm not saying Triple H totally sucked or anything either - but a 14 time world champ or whatever he is? Get the fuck out of here.
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I agree with the Triple H assessment. His version of DX as a whole was kinda wack.
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Old 10-09-2017, 11:56 AM   #68
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He made RAW unwatchable from 2002-2004
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Old 10-09-2017, 11:56 AM   #69
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Btw, how about Erik Watts who beat Arn Anderson for the T.V title.
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85 minute promos about THIS...UHHH....BUSINESS...UHHHH

lol and now every fucking dvd about the attitude era is about how DX and HHH invented it, while Steve Austin just happened to be there lol
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Old 10-09-2017, 12:29 PM   #71
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He made RAW unwatchable from 2002-2004
His match at WM19, total fucking bullshit

Ludvig Borga in the mid-90's WWF
They fed him Tatanka's undefeated streak, he took maybe 1 loss in his time with the company, then he got "injured" & they let him go before they could payoff the effort they put into him. Jim Ross talked about what a miserable bastard he was to be around backstage, also
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85 minute promos about THIS...UHHH....BUSINESS...UHHHH

lol and now every fucking dvd about the attitude era is about how DX and HHH invented it, while Steve Austin just happened to be there lol
85 minute promos remind me about The Rock and every time he comes back for a little visit...20 minute entrance, cold chill show and then pausing for minutes at a time....kill me now
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Old 10-09-2017, 05:11 PM   #73
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Triple H was a decent hand who happened to be friends with the right people and then slept his way to the top.
AMEN TO THAT.

The man was 3rd tier
He was coming up as the attitude era was winding down and his wife HBK was out
his title reigns do nothing to change the fact that he isnt on Austin,Rock Taker ,HBK or even Brocks level

Amazing mind for wrestling just never ha what it took to be the man in a lot of eyes

then theres that one title reign..............
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Glacier- not really a "push", but they hyped the hell out of that guy. Great example of WCW wasting a ton of money for pretty much no benefit to them. I remember expecting something really special there and being so disappointed.
Man I am with you on this one. I remember all the Glacier vignettes fondly. It was during my teenage years, Mortal Kombat was the shit, and Glacier was basically Sub-Zero, here to destroy everyone! And then........nothing. Was such a disappointing let down.

Similarly big let down when Dustin Rhodes didn't go very far with the Seven gimmick. It was basically the same thing as Glacier really. Tons of hype, no payoff.
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Obviously you're going to run that risk, but wouldn't you rather be surprised than not? If you're just going to ASSUME that it COULD suck, that seems pessimistic to me.
It really depends. Some things I want to know absolutely nothing about when I head in, and other things I want to be more sure of. Right now, I don't want WWE to "surprise" me. That's just not where I am. I'll only check it out if I am hearing good word of mouth. Otherwise, I don't want to risk it bothering me too much.

Like, when it comes to Hell in a Cell, it was "surprising" how mediocre the overall card was (expectations had the match quality as being rather high). That's not something I want out of my time investment. I suppose the more invested I am in a product, the more open I am to trusting it enough to surprise me.

For example, I probably won't even see a trailer for the new Star Wars film. Well, I won't actively seek one out. I managed to avoid everything in regards to The Force Awakens. It just depends on the product.
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I've got to back up Triple H. There was nothing about the guy that screamed "main event." And his run in the main event has actually been really underwhelming. I'm sure it was just coincidence, but I used to chuckle to myself when WrestleMania 23 stood out as such a successful WrestleMania, and it was the one without Triple H on it.

But sincerely, I don't think people get upset when he is not apart of something. I don't think they will avoid it just because he is on it, but this idea that he is some sort of draw card -- is it based on anything? You know, other than the WWE constantly telling you that he was one of the top stars of the Attitude era and is an ass-kicker, etc.

He's got to spray his stink all over everything too. He's wrestled The Undertaker at WrestleMania more times than Shawn Michaels did. Remember the Summer of Punk? "I've got an idea to help Cena as a babyface, Vince." "I've got an idea to help Roman as a babyface, Vince." "I've got an ideal to help Seth as a babyface, Vince." "I've got an idea to help Bryan as a babyface, Vince."

Fuck's sake, none of those guys were helped an ounce by Triple H. Batista is the one guy. And that came at the expense of Booker T, Rob Van Dam, Kane, Shawn Michaels, Randy Orton and Chris Benoit. After building up that much tedium behind the Triple H empire, of course it's going to be cathartic to see him absolutely destroyed. Was the pay-off worth it?
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Old 10-09-2017, 06:09 PM   #79
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OK, well as a wrestling fan who watches on a very regular basis and enjoys what he sees, I have absolutely no interest in spoilers. I'll leave it there.
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On a message board about wrestling, I guess I assume a lot more people are like that too.

Regardless, there are definitely disrespectful ways to post spoilers, and I hope that the people that do that around here or anywhere get dysentery.
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