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Old 08-19-2017, 11:46 PM   #241
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Yes. It seems to be the new trendy thing with crowds during any WWE title match introduction, and I fucking DESPISE it, too.
I don't harbor such hatred, but I do think it ruins the thing when it's overdone... and in this case "overdone" is outside of the bounds of Europe. Let them have their thing.

Even within the company. The whole "ten" thing is fine when confined to Tye Dillinger. When the crowd starts doing it for EVERY set of strikes in the corner, it migrates out of context and into the territory of the stupid. Like "What?" even to this day.
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Old 08-19-2017, 11:48 PM   #242
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:HTM voice: "HAHA... yeah... 's comin' outta yer check, ya fuckin' mark!"
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Old 08-20-2017, 12:03 AM   #243
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Did the crowd just yell "One Fall!" after the announcer said it?
Yes and it's the announcers fault for having a pause. Should always be the following contest scheduled for one fall is for the blah blah blah championship.
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Old 08-20-2017, 12:04 AM   #244
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Drew McIntyre is great.........

like 9823598253798523 better than Bobby Roode (good gimmick but mad boring in the ring)

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Old 08-20-2017, 12:05 AM   #245
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Yes and it's the announcers fault for having a pause. Should always be the following contest scheduled for one fall is for the blah blah blah championship.
Why?
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Old 08-20-2017, 12:15 AM   #246
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Women's match was prob my fav match of the night

Ember Moon rules........ wanted her to win, but I guess it's probably better for Asuka to just go to the main roster undefeated
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Old 08-20-2017, 12:25 AM   #247
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Why?
To prevent the "one fall" echo chant. Kinda tanks the opportunity if you steamroll through that part.
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Old 08-20-2017, 12:25 AM   #248
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Why does it matter if the crowd enjoys repeating "one fall" though
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every time the crowd would say "sweeeeeeet" after a two count, the guy next to me would loudly say "WOOP WOOP" for some reason... like 250 times maybe.......... fuck
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Are the Takeover crowds always this autistic?
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Old 08-20-2017, 12:50 AM   #251
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This also means that the Glorious one is likely to show up on Raw or Smackdown now. Even more likely if the do another Superstar shakeup.
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Why does it matter if the crowd enjoys repeating "one fall" though
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every time the crowd would say "sweeeeeeet" after a two count, the guy next to me would loudly say "WOOP WOOP" for some reason... like 250 times maybe.......... fuck
Kinda answered your question with your next statement. It isn't the thing happening in and of itself, it's that thing where people have lost the concepts of context and restraint. It will eventually go from a European championship match thing to a every match all over the world all the time thing. It stops being special and shifts to annoying bullshit to chant just to chant much like "you deserve it" did.
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Old 08-20-2017, 01:27 AM   #253
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ya... I don't find it nearly as annoying as you do I guess, since it happened like 1 time and not 6,000 times during the night.
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Old 08-20-2017, 01:28 AM   #254
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Also before the show, they introduced each member of the NXT commentary team... The crowd booed Percy Watson, then cheered McGuinness, then gave a giant pop to Mauro
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ya... I don't find it nearly as annoying as you do I guess, since it happened like 1 time and not 6,000 times during the night.
Methinks you're confusing me with Daminator.

It isn't detestable to me. Yet. I'm sure it will get there in time. As in, by the time WrestleMania rolls around and it spreads like a cancer to Raw and Smackdown and everything else at the announcement for every match.
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Percy Watson seems really out of place.
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Drew McIntyre is great.........

like 9823598253798523 better than Bobby Roode (good gimmick but mad boring in the ring)

McIntyre is great... sweet ass mic skills... great look... looks like a "main eventer"... very athletic and powerful... good matches, etc.
Wish they would turn him heel though

Due to every WWE face just having a really boring "nice guy" gimmick

Saw him as a heel live at an Evolve show and he cut a sweet promo on the crowd calling everyone pieces of garbage who smell like shit and they make him want to puke and stuff and it was really good
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I was thinking McIntyre call up to raw to tag with Big Cass..call the Big Macs..legally I guess that couldn't happen
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I was thinking McIntyre call up to raw to tag with Big Cass..call the Big Macs..legally I guess that couldn't happen
Big Macs? Really? And maybe you'd like McDonald's to endorse them, too?
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Why does it matter if the crowd enjoys repeating "one fall" though
It just seems annoying, because they do it for EVERY championship match nowadays. To STD's point, I have noticed there are announcers who try not to pause during the introduction, but even then the crowds still shoehorn it in.

Got tickets Fri. for the E. Lansing, MI SDL house show the night after Hell in a Cell in Detroit in October... really hope it doesn't happen assuming there's at least one title match, but have this impending feeling of dread that it will and I'll cringe and slump down in my seat in embarrassment if so.
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was at the show, good time as always. have been to all 3 NXT takeover BKs. got free tickets via my friend's friend who works for WWE so pretty amazing seats too.

won't post spoilers but there is one pretty good match from the pre-show/tv taping.

Andrade "Cien" Almas vs. Johnny Gargano
Crowd was way into Gargano via him being EVOLVE's top dog for a while and La Boom in Queens being one of their main bases. Prob my personal favorite match of the night. Almas needed the win badly and Gargano is one of those natural "underdog" types who is made to take pins so good call. Also, the DIY shirt being thrown at Gargano as metaphor for Ciampa always being in his shadow is classic pro-wrestling storytelling.
****1/4

Sanity vs. Authors of Pain
V shocked by the result. Match was way better than I thought it would be. Alexander Wolfe was the real star here. Wondering if the Authors will move up, they'd be a good team to eventually put over Rollins and Ambrose to give the RAW tag division a good dominant team. Wonder if old ass Paul Ellering can handle the WWE touring schedule.

Popped hard for the reDragon debut. Looks like Sanity will just be transitional champs.
***1/2

Aleister Black vs. Hideo Itami
Feel bad for Hideo. Feels like he has never and maybe will never get a fair shake. It was obvious from the second Code Orange came out to play Black's theme who was going over. Could see Black fast-tracked to the main roster. Dunno what else they do with him since it seems pretty clear that Adam Cole will be McIntyre's first challenger. A program with Ohno would be pretty dope, I guess. Black def has "it" though I think "Aleister Black" is a lame ass name especially compared to Tommy End. Match was disappointing. Thought it'd be the runaway MOTN. Instead it was just pretty good.

Could see Itami brought up to feud with Neville. I don't know what else you do with him in NXT at this point.
***

Asuka vs. Ember Moon
Very happy Asuka retained. Ember is a good wrestler but I don't like her character (inconsistent, she's a demonic werewolf and an "aww shucks" sympathetic babyface at the same time - pick one or the other), nor do I feel she's been built up well enough to be the one to end Asuka's winning streak. Also - just the right call given the way the crowd would have received a Moon victory. If she won she would have been booed out of Barclays. Instead she put on a hell of a match and got a standing ovation, "earning the crowd's respect." A win here would have made her a divisive champ which would't do her justice if they want to push her as a top face. Great match.
****

Bobby Roode vs. Drew McIntyre
Boring as fuck "WWE main event" style match that everyone basically knew would suck. Right guy won. Roode is just boring in the ring and would probably be in an Eric Young-esque role if he didn't luck into having that theme song that basically forced them to push him. I'd imagine that he's done in NXT and will be good midcard heel fodder for Smackdown. They may as well have him take Mike Kanallis' spot and ship him out.

Crowd went nuts for Adam Cole. I fucking hate Adam Cole and think he's the most overrated guy on the indies so I wasn't too psyched. Dude is just a bootleg redneck Shawn Michaels/Chris Jericho who tries to do the Kevin Owens/Young Bucks comedy spots but just comes off as tired. Whole fucking gimmick is aping Chris Jericho's "COME ON BAY-BAY" every seven seconds.
*1/2

Great show overall, but no real "classic" match like the last two takeover Brooklyns.
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I don't agree with your ratings, FakeRazor. But this is America so whatevs...
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I don't agree with your ratings, FakeRazor. But this is America so whatevs...
how do you rate them, Guru Dave?
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Old 08-21-2017, 03:42 AM   #266
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I'd say you've underrated Itami-Black, Asuka-Moon*, and Roode-McIntyre.
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I'd say you've underrated Itami-Black, Asuka-Moon*, and Roode-McIntyre.
Fair enough. Maybe they came across better on TV.

Did you think Asuka/Moon was a MOTYC? I have it at **** which is very good. Anything above that and you're talking one of the best matches of the year.

I thought Black vs. Itami was good, but the outcome was obvious and it was really short. If they went another 5-7 minutes it could have been ****+
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Andrade "Cien" Almas vs. Johnny Gargano - 4.5 out of 5

Sanity vs. Authors of Pain - 4 out of 5

Aleister Black vs. Hideo Itami - 3 out of 5


Asuka vs. Ember Moon - 4.5 out of 5


Bobby Roode vs. Drew McIntyre - 3.5 out of 5


Overall it was better than Summerslam as far as match quality and I love the 2 hour length. I think my favorite match was the tag match even though I didn't rate it as highly. I just love watching Sanity work as a tweener/face team..especially Nikki.
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Fair enough. Maybe they came across better on TV.
It def feels like the whole show came across better on TV.

I was also at it live and def felt like it was really good but like probably the "worst" TakeOver so far because of the standard they set. Remember feeling "blown away" at the show live last year and didn't really feel that way this year. None of the matches seemed amazing to me really other than the women's match, which was my fav match of the night. But every1 on the internet was raving about the show, so that's cool.

I skimmed through some of it on WWE Network after and it seemed really great... like Mauro made things seem big and exciting. Crowd sounded so hot on "TV" also.
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Fair enough. Maybe they came across better on TV.

Did you think Asuka/Moon was a MOTYC? I have it at **** which is very good. Anything above that and you're talking one of the best matches of the year.

I thought Black vs. Itami was good, but the outcome was obvious and it was really short. If they went another 5-7 minutes it could have been ****+
Asuka-Moon was definitely a candidate and Black-Itami was a tad bit short. But aren't all Black matches short?
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Asuka-Moon was definitely a candidate and Black-Itami was a tad bit short. But aren't all Black matches short?
I've seen him work longer matches on the indies. I guess he mainly has wrestled squash matches in NXT.

This one didn't come close to his matches at last year's Battle of Los Angeles (vs. Sabre Jr. and with Chris Hero vs. Pentagon Jr. and Fenix) or his match with Chris Hero at Don't Sweat the Technique. Of course, PWG matches are gonna be way different than a WWE style match but yeah.

I saw him work a crazy good match vs. Matt Riddle last year at EVOLVE's Summerslam weekend show.
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It def feels like the whole show came across better on TV.

I was also at it live and def felt like it was really good but like probably the "worst" TakeOver so far because of the standard they set. Remember feeling "blown away" at the show live last year and didn't really feel that way this year. None of the matches seemed amazing to me really other than the women's match, which was my fav match of the night. But every1 on the internet was raving about the show, so that's cool.

I skimmed through some of it on WWE Network after and it seemed really great... like Mauro made things seem big and exciting. Crowd sounded so hot on "TV" also.
I may have had more fun this year because my seats were way better but last year had DIY vs. Revival which was an obvious instant classic.

Year one I was blown away and had amazing seats for Bayley vs. Sasha Banks. Everyone was legit crying at the end.
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I've seen him work longer matches on the indies. I guess he mainly has wrestled squash matches in NXT.

This one didn't come close to his matches at last year's Battle of Los Angeles (vs. Sabre Jr. and with Chris Hero vs. Pentagon Jr. and Fenix) or his match with Chris Hero at Don't Sweat the Technique. Of course, PWG matches are gonna be way different than a WWE style match but yeah.

I saw him work a crazy good match vs. Matt Riddle last year at EVOLVE's Summerslam weekend show.
That is true. If I were to nitpick, I didn't find the kicks to be that compelling on television. I guess it is tough to throw worked kicks when you're that tall.
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Too bad they didn't put Roderick Strong in Adam Cole's stable. He fits right in with Cole and redDRagon. And needs something to do. No he's not the most charismatic but if you give him something to do there is some personality there that can shine. Not to mention he's probably the best wrestler on the roster. Gotta have something more than that though or he's gonna sink.
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I guess there is but I figured if they were going to do it they would've done Saturday with everybody else.
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He doesn't fit with them. He might be from ROH but he is failing because his voice is way too effeminate to come off as being as badass.
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