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Old 01-23-2011, 05:42 PM   #2481
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Whatever, science element just adds something to the character. The mutation aspect didn't ruin Spider-Man or anything , I just like that they went back to the original source.
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Old 01-23-2011, 06:07 PM   #2482
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Wow, this X-Men film sounds awful. It's a bunch of terrible Twilight actors thrown into a 60's Bond movie, with teenage angst and mutant powers that girls are going to love. Fucking awesome!

Also, I seriously doubt the cast of First Class will do anything near as good as the original. 'Xavier is a hard guy to cast', fuck this guy playing Xavier, I have no idea who he is, but I'm guessing he was in Twilight or Harry Potter or Step Up or some crappy kids movie or another. Patrick Stewart was Charles Xavier before casting for those films even began. This guy is a flavour of the month nobody.

FUCK I'm so angry at how bad this film looks.

I'll still get the DVD though. :foc:
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Old 01-23-2011, 06:09 PM   #2483
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Don't think this has Twilight actors.
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I didn't mean that literally.
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The kid playing Xavier was in a movie with Angelina Jolie about making bullets turn directions with the power of your will!

Never seen it, but judging by the plot it has GOT the be a classic.
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I'll still get the DVD though. :foc:
At least buy it used
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So we're all agreed that they should have went with X4, eh?
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Old 01-23-2011, 06:51 PM   #2489
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I remember dreaming up a possible X4 where Gambit would be the new lead. Somebody here didn't like that, don't remember who.
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Jesus..I actually got excited for this movie for a little bit the moment the screenshots and more details came up..my worst fears came to life. I fucking knew if they did a First Class movie they were going to have to appeal to the stupid ass teen Twilight audience in some way.
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Old 01-23-2011, 07:39 PM   #2491
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I remember dreaming up a possible X4 where Gambit would be the new lead. Somebody here didn't like that, don't remember who.

I don't remember, doubt it was me but I'd agree with that person

That would be absolutely terrible. Like I mean probably the worse than First Class, mostly because a) Gambit isn't a leader type and b) Gambit is probably the single most overrated character in comic book history and a huge metaphor for everything that sucked about 90s X-men. Though I will admit I have a huge bias towards 1980s Chris Clairmont X-men.
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Old 01-23-2011, 07:55 PM   #2492
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Well your first contention can and was used against Wolverine and here we are with a (mostly) successful movie franchise a decade later. There's no reason to think Gambit couldn't have been fitted into the main role - especially played by somebody like Josh Holloway. Wolverine wasn't considered a good lead until Hugh Jackman filled out his movie version. Saying he isn't a leader type is almost moot.

Overrated? I don't know about all that. He's a total badass with destructive power yet a cool demeanor. Sure he seems obviously designed to be 'cool' but that's most comic characters to begin with. I wouldn't say one of the most underused X-Men is the most "overrated in history", though.

He could have definitely headlined a fourth movie while Hugh was off doing Wolverine solos.
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And he would have came at a sweet opportunity to have some interaction with Rogue, who's powers would have certainly returned in my vision of the movie. She was initially attached to Wolverine a bit, goes out with nice guy, breaks up with nice guy, and now meets this new rebel dude who reminds her of her brief father figure. He could even get Rogue to loosen up a bit and *gasp* behave closer to her flirtatious comic book version!

My X4 would have been dope, homey.
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Well your first contention can and was used against Wolverine and here we are with a (mostly) successful movie franchise a decade later. There's no reason to think Gambit couldn't have been fitted into the main role - especially played by somebody like Josh Holloway. Wolverine wasn't considered a good lead until Hugh Jackman filled out his movie version. Saying he isn't a leader type is almost moot.

Overrated? I don't know about all that. He's a total badass with destructive power yet a cool demeanor. Sure he seems obviously designed to be 'cool' but that's most comic characters to begin with. I wouldn't say one of the most underused X-Men is the most "overrated in history", though.

He could have definitely headlined a fourth movie while Hugh was off doing Wolverine solos.
Wolverine's also a terrible leader and he was a star but never a leader in the X-movies until half way through 3, ya know the one everyone hates (I enjoyed it on same levels but iwasn't because Wolverine was in charge)

Gambit doesn't have the same history or casual recognition. When I say he's overrated I mean by a lot of comic book fnsw not the general public. BTW the fact that you think Gambit, one of the most underused characters in your own words, should somehow lead the X-men is exactly what I mean by he's overrated
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And he would have came at a sweet opportunity to have some interaction with Rogue, who's powers would have certainly returned in my vision of the movie. She was initially attached to Wolverine a bit, goes out with nice guy, breaks up with nice guy, and now meets this new rebel dude who reminds her of her brief father figure. He could even get Rogue to loosen up a bit and *gasp* behave closer to her flirtatious comic book version!

My X4 would have been dope, homey.
So it becomes the Gambit/Rogue show, aka the 1990s, I'll pass.
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BTW the fact that you think Gambit, one of the most underused characters in your own words, should somehow lead the X-men is exactly what I mean by he's overrated
What do you think I mean by 'lead', may I ask?

But let's say I'd like him to actually lead the team, I don't see how him being underused hurts the idea. In fact many comic characters go through a period of creative apathy before they become highlighted in something big. But I won't carry this on, you don't seem to like Gambit at all and it isn't my job to change that.

BTW, the 90's X-Men you hate so much? That era is what put X-Men in the mainstream thinks to that little cartoon with all the Gambit/Rogue drama (like there was really a lot of that).
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A lot of us here liked the trailer.
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I don't think Thor will be good. It looks like it will be entertaining though.

I have tremendously low expectations for Captain America.
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Except for the fact there's a black Nordic god and Zeus looks like some shitty officer working on a spaceship in a sci-fi TV series, the trailer looks promising.
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A lot of us here liked the trailer.
Yeah I know that's why I asked if I was the only one that didn't like the trailer
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I don't think Thor will be good. It looks like it will be entertaining though.
I heard this kind of statement before so I wanna ask: Why is an entertaining movie not a good movie to you? Like I'd consider anything that manages to entertain me 'good'.

And conversely, are there 'good' movies that aren't entertaining to you?
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Thor for me can still go either way. Trailer has some good and some bad. Jury is out on the movie until I see it.
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How do Nordic gods look, 6x?
Like Nords.

All white and mostly blonde.
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Old 01-23-2011, 09:12 PM   #2507
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Um... yeah.
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I heard this kind of statement before so I wanna ask: Why is an entertaining movie not a good movie to you? Like I'd consider anything that manages to entertain me 'good'.

And conversely, are there 'good' movies that aren't entertaining to you?
A good movie is also entertaining. A Steven Seagal movie is just entertaining. The plot will be dumb, and the acting will be bad to questionable. The action and special effects will probably kickass and make it entertaining.

Another example

First Blood Part 2 and 3 are entertaining while First Blood is good.
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Um... yeah.
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Old 01-23-2011, 09:18 PM   #2511
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A good movie is also entertaining. A Steven Seagal movie is just entertaining. The plot will be dumb, and the acting will be bad to questionable. The action and special effects will probably kickass and make it entertaining.

Another example

First Blood Part 2 and 3 are entertaining while First Blood is good.
Interesting.
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Fair enough.

We've discussed this before, anyway.
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Like Nords.

All white and mostly blonde.
I don't think they can have an all white blonde cast without some sort of Hitler Zombie
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Thor looks great to me, but I am heavily biased.
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So we're all agreed that they should have went with X4, eh?
Yeah. They could have come with any excuse to bring back people like Cyclops and Rogue, or just bring in others that we hadn't seen yet. Nightcrawler could have come back, and maybe Angel could have actually done something. But it's not like they need a totally realistic excuse since it's a comic movie.

Then I would have loved to see a different bad guy for once other than Magneto or the Brotherhood. Apocalypse would have been my first choice, but anyone like Sinister, the Sentinels, the Brood etc.

Also, I remember there was a picture someone made of the Rock as Mr. Sinister which looked awesome.
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Oh wait, wasn't Sinister it was Apocalypse.
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unrelated note am I the only one that doesn't think Thor looks fantastic?
Thor looks awesome. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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The kid playing Xavier was in a movie with Angelina Jolie about making bullets turn directions with the power of your will!

Never seen it, but judging by the plot it has GOT the be a classic.
That film would be WANTED, which is actually based on a comic/graphic novel and was pretty good. And thats coming from someone that isn't an action film fan for the most part. I found it much more enjoyable than The Expendables for example.

And the "kid playing Xavier" is James McAvoy. Again, he's a pretty good actor.

But don't let the fact that you know nothing about the guy, his talents or his body of work get in the way of your bitching.
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But don't let the fact that you know nothing about the guy, his talents or his body of work get in the way of your bitching.
Actually, how was that bitching? I just said I know he was in some movie and the plot of said movie blows. Never said he's a bad actor or anything.

I think you need to read posts a tad more carefully.
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...It totally seemed you were 'having a tone' about James McAvoy and Wanted. Maybe not bitching but certainly mocking. You backtrack like that often, ya know.
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