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Old 10-31-2017, 05:44 PM   #41
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Old 10-31-2017, 05:55 PM   #42
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Highly doubt Emma went out there and created the match without getting approval.
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Old 10-31-2017, 05:58 PM   #43
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No ever wants to hold workers accountable when they fail to get over.
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"Alright! The moment we've all been waiting for! The main roster debut of legend-in-the-making, Asuka! EMMA! What do you think we should do?"
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Highly doubt Emma went out there and created the match without getting approval.
Workers aren't robots. It isn't scripted the way you seem to think it is
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No ever wants to hold workers accountable when they fail to get over.
That's not true. I just don't think it's Emma's fault in this case.
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Old 10-31-2017, 06:04 PM   #48
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As a wrestler, am I a shit fan for really enjoying the TLC match between Asuka and Emma?
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Old 10-31-2017, 06:10 PM   #49
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Old 10-31-2017, 06:14 PM   #50
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You guys dont think that matches are choreographed by a 3rd party do you? That isnt the case.

The agent asigned to your match with give you your finish and probably a heat spot. Sometimes they will give you a story structure if they have specifics they you to get in for plot purposes. They might micromanage a bit more if youre awful or super green but they think they can get you over.

But if you can work they just let you work. You know the big notes. You know what not to do (IE theyre working the leg in the main or whatever so lay off the leg on the undercard) You know your time. Get it over.

Some guys call their shit in the back some guys walk and talk. Others do a bit of both. But its your match. Finley isnt sitting there telling girls to follow a script step by step...

Never actually thought about what the perception of how it all comes together is...85% is improve sans spot monkies...fyi.
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Old 10-31-2017, 06:15 PM   #51
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Emma...was nice to look at...but she could not put a match together...at all
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Old 10-31-2017, 06:17 PM   #52
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Breaking Ground told me there's a third party, but that would lend to your goose shit point.

The match was over with ME. Do I not count as a person?
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Old 10-31-2017, 06:18 PM   #53
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This match was pretty good:

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Course you do. Youll just need a lot of money to make keeping her worth it lol
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I don't know if they had Emma t-shirts or anything. Can I buy a pair of little half gloves?
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Old 10-31-2017, 06:22 PM   #58
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Why wasn't Emma to the Australian market what Jinder Mahal is to the Indian market?
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What do you think woulda happened where the fault could be placed on Emma, Des? Just curious. Think as the heell she was calling the match?
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Versus holding Asuka accountable.
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Hold up. I may have an unhealthy love for Emma, but NONE of this was Asuka's fault. EVER.
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This all falls on Bayley. I'm sure of it.
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Why wasn't Emma to the Australian market what Jinder Mahal is to the Indian market?
Either its not a strong market for the WWE and/or doesn't have the same untapped potential like with India and China because of its huge populations.

Think only very recently a renaissance of sorts is happening there with wrestling like with the UK scene.
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Hey man i dig Asuka but was just curious. If it falls on the way the match was laid out and a wrestler is being held accountable... How come one employee is and the other isnt if both didnt execute
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Either its not a strong market for the WWE and/or doesn't have the same untapped potential like with India and China because of its huge populations.

Think only very recently a renaissance of sorts is happening there with wrestling like with the UK scene.
Well they're lucky I really like Billie Kay and Peyton Royce.
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Awwww, Emma could have been in a stable with them.
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We never had these issues when Dawn Marie and Torrie were scissoring on top of Al Wilson's corpse. Women's revolution my ass. They're being set back even further if they're trying to hold Emma accountable on some BULLSHIT.
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Old 10-31-2017, 06:39 PM   #69
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What do you think woulda happened where the fault could be placed on Emma, Des? Just curious. Think as the heell she was calling the match?
Yeah the heel and the refs ear piece are in control. Only time the ref will chime in is if its time to go home or the office sees something and calls an audible. Rare though.

The heel is putting the match together in the ring though baring some huge gap in experience. Its not easy calling the match from the top though; the heel is in a dominant position for most the match so its best left to the heel. (And someone has to lead, its a dance after all.)

So when emma goes out there and does a heat thats built around rest holds inside a 9 min match on ppv in a match where youre getting the next 6 months of tv over is your prime directive...? Yeah thats because emma isnt good at her job.

She isnt good enough to work heel, thats the real mistake but she isnt over enough to breakthrough the babies either...nxt jobber diva? I dunno. I started watching nxt and everyone told she would get better later...she never did.
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Old 10-31-2017, 06:40 PM   #70
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Asuka could have only saved the match if she went into business for herself and got her shit in the hard way...and in retrospect she should have
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Old 10-31-2017, 06:57 PM   #71
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Ohhhhh... that's where the hard way term comes from!
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So who was the heel in AJ v. Finn on the same night?
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Old 10-31-2017, 07:04 PM   #73
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I’d guess AJ as he’s the vet. I’d have to watch again to know for sure.
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Baby on baby so no heel. But AJ led that night. Finn took the heat and had a full come back. AJ might have taken a short heat early on but i cant remember. Id have to rewatch it...good match though. AJs stuff might be spotty but its all put together really well.
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Workers aren't robots. It isn't scripted the way you seem to think it is
I think it goes

Creative Guy: Asuka goes over really hard. Emma, you barely get any offense in. Go.

And then Emma goes out there and barely gets and offense in.

But thast didn't happen so I am guessing she was told to get offense in.
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Honestly, don't care how it goes. Emma is not in a position to call the entire match. There were guidelines. And I am sure there is a specific way they want to build Asuka.
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We can agree she should never call a match
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I agree that I enjoyed the match, enjoyed Emma in the ring, think that you are wrong about a lot of things regarding her, and that I call BS on the rumours saying how her matches with Asuka went had anything to do with her release.
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