Better Wrestler #87

[Destor]

VS




3 Days

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[Destor]

Scott Norton was a legit main eventer overseas. Syxx was a mid card guy anywhere on earth.


Norton.

[Destor]

Also I will be traveling all next week so I may up one while in the hotel I may not. Dunno.

[Bad News Gertner]

This is your answer

[KIRA]

This is going to be a pleasure Scott fuckin Norton

X-pac may be good in ring but Norton was/is just a joy to watch doesnt matter if its Japan or Killing luchas on Nitro. I'll never understand why WCW didn't push him to the moon.
Plus he has one the sickest looking power bombs ever.

Where is that Norton tribute thread?

[Destor]

Very early obviously but this *could* be a good match up

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Norton did well in Japan but is a charisma vacuum in the states.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

It is like choosing Albert over Pac.

[KIRA]

Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead It is like choosing Albert over Pac.

The fuck?

[Swiss Ultimate]

Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead It is like choosing Albert over Pac.

That's kind of what I was thinking. Pac had great matches with HBK and Razor Ramone.

Norton's powerbomb is amazing admittedly

[KIRA]

Originally Posted by Swiss That's kind of what I was thinking. Pac had great matches with HBK and Razor Ramone. Norton's powerbomb is amazing admittedly

I'm gonna watch one these so called great matches between HBK and X-pac

and see if its as good as the 4 seconds it takes Norton to powerbomb peoples bodies away from their souls

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead It is like choosing Albert over Pac.

Which is the obvious choice still

[Destor]

Fuck you newstead #ECGdebates

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I'm a Reverse Meltzer due to his jacking off about Japan for years. Nothing in Japan counts.

Xpac wins.

[Shisen Kopf]

Xpac wore badannas and looked like a greasy wigger. Norton did not.

[Ruien]

123 Kind. By far has a biggest.impact on wrestling (lol overseas). I can't name a single storyline Norton was in besides being a NWO guy.

[Maluco]

X Pac was one of the most trusted workers in his time in WWE. He was literally the go to guy for new talent to be tested and joined the nWo as the guy to carry the workload. At his peak he was extremely popular too.

X-factor was abysmal, but nWo B was just as bad and did a ton of damage to the brand.

I can literally only remember powerbombs when I think of Norton.

Bested here by a better worker and a more charismatic personality in Pac

[KIRA]

Originally Posted by Maluco X Pac was one of the most trusted workers in his time in WWE. He was literally the go to guy for new talent to be tested and joined the nWo as the guy to carry the workload. At his peak he was extremely popular too. X-factor was abysmal, but nWo B was just as bad and did a ton of damage to the brand. I can literally only remember powerbombs when I think of Norton. Bested here by a better worker and a more charismatic personality in Pac

I think you might be confusing loud and annoying with charasmatic

[KIRA]

Originally Posted by Maluco X Pac was one of the most trusted workers in his time in WWE. He was literally the go to guy for new talent to be tested and joined the nWo as the guy to carry the workload. At his peak he was extremely popular too. X-factor was abysmal, but nWo B was just as bad and did a ton of damage to the brand. I can literally only remember powerbombs when I think of Norton. Bested here by a better worker and a more charismatic personality in Pac

Miz is also safe and thats great but all people care about and want to see is Braun killing people. I for one do remember stuff Norton did before ending lives via powerbomb.

When I was a little guy and Xpac had worn out his welcome we started to realize he wasn't cool at all he was just always associated with cool people

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Originally Posted by Maluco X Pac was one of the most trusted workers in his time in WWE. He was literally the go to guy for new talent to be tested and joined the nWo as the guy to carry the workload. At his peak he was extremely popular too. X-factor was abysmal, but nWo B was just as bad and did a ton of damage to the brand. I can literally only remember powerbombs when I think of Norton. Bested here by a better worker and a more charismatic personality in Pac

I can literally only remember anus tearing with X-Pac. Scott Norton was a draw in Japan, X-Pac is a draw on podcasts because his drug stories are funny

[Maluco]

Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney I can literally only remember anus tearing with X-Pac. Scott Norton was a draw in Japan, X-Pac is a draw on podcasts because his drug stories are funny

While anal tearing and drugs are not a great combo, there is so much more.

I remember the fluke win over Razor, the awesome title match with Bret, his reveal as Syxx, fun cruiser matches in WCW, his reveal as X-Pac, as a key guy in European title feuds (fond memories of that title), his tag team with Kane...sort of tails off after that, bar a few good IC matches.

Had a decent career though, in spite of his obvious problems

[Rammsteinmad]

X-Pac.

Scott Norton is like the Rick Astley of wrestling.

[Destor]

Walman is in no way the better worker

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Originally Posted by Destor Walman is in no way the better worker

ok dave meltzer.

[Destor]

No. Fucking. Way,

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Who did Bret Hart want to work with?

[Bad News Gertner]

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon Who did Bret Hart want to work with?

[Destor]

Hart drew less in then states the norton did in japan

[Swiss Ultimate]

Originally Posted by Destor Hart drew less in then states the norton did in japan

Um are you sugfesting that Norton was better than Bret???

[Destor]

Aka #bretwho

[Destor]

Im not suggesting that at all

[Destor]

Im flat out saying it

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Originally Posted by Destor Im flat out saying it

You are flat out wrong.

[Destor]

Not even sort of. Easily the most overrated worker of all time and the worst champion of all time as well.

[Destor]

And ftr i love watching his matches; that doesnt mean anything other than he's niche and im his market

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

You're a strictly numbers guy. I'm not. So we won't find common ground here.

Also, Shawn and Diesel did worse business as champs.

[Destor]

Shawns 2nd run cancels out his 1st run though. Nash in WCW was a draw as well.

[Destor]

Hart however never got people to pay to see him. People didnt resonate with his stuff outside of regional markets. Is what it is.

[Destor]

Now Nortan vs Waltman? Cmon. Nortons stuff was so believable. Great bruiser if there ever was one. WCW passed up a lot of tickets by not utilizing him more.

[Destor]

When Vader left for new york norton should have taken that spot