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10-23-2017, 12:28 AM | #562 |
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To be fair, I don't think that would've happened to risk the negative response of him being CHEERED while carted off and BOOED at the return. There likely would have been more to that Braun "face turn", though to take those two out of the equation for a proper 3 on 3.
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10-23-2017, 01:13 AM | #563 |
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I was under the impression that Kane attacked Braun, thus turning KANE face.
Is Braun the one who turned? If so, probably for the best. WWE has rushed through Braun's story pretty quickly to the point where if they keep him heel then come WrestleMania season he'd just be used to build up the "main match" guys. Might as well get some mileage out of him as a true face. |
10-23-2017, 01:22 AM | #564 |
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Didn't watch the whole thing, but one of the announcers made mention of Braun may/may not have attacked Kane by accident. So then, Kane kinda gave Braun a big "fuck you" with the chokeslam and chair burial.
What prevented this from being a Kane turn either way was the fact that Kane went right back to helping Miz and The Bar before Braun came back for more, tossing his teammates aside and going straight for Kane... which led to all four heels attacking Braun and stuffing him into the veichle d'jour (ambulances and firetrucks and paddy waggons have all been uses, so hey, why not a garbage truck). Kane is still supposed to be heel, here. My guess is that Kane's return was supposed to be a setup for a believable Braun face turn (to finally roll along with the pops he's been getting in spite of clearly being booked as a heel). Don't know where they go after a Kane feud, but hopefully they don't try to sugarcoat Braun and just let him do his thing and remain over. I would have also guessed that would have been a much slower transition, as all the focus here would originally have been to get people to accept Roman more, but in lieu of his absence, I guess they might have pulled that trigger sooner than later. |
10-23-2017, 01:23 AM | #565 |
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Shame Sandows gone. Coulda done team Brains and Braun..
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10-23-2017, 02:03 AM | #566 |
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Okay, this bothers me: Kurt Angle has not "been out of the ring for 11 years". Just because you don't want to acknowledge their time elsewhere doesn't mean they fell off the fucking planet.
And he did stuff outside of TNA, so they can just use the generic "all over the world" shit they use for folks like AJ and Nakamura. But pretending Kurt Angle stopped existing after 2006 is less believable than Porkchop Jones being his seed. |
10-23-2017, 02:29 AM | #567 | |
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If its a turn, it's clearly a Braun face turn. They should have had him been the one to triple powerbomb Miz at the end with Shield/Angles help, and then let Angle get the pin as Strowman marches to the back. |
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10-23-2017, 02:32 AM | #568 |
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Shitty card definetely. Really, Eno Amore again? Gah. Also, who the fuck is Jason Alexander? Or Rich Swann? Jesus.
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10-23-2017, 02:34 AM | #569 |
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Jason Alexander gonna be main eventing WrestleMania against Roman Reigns in a couple years and you're gonna be like "ROCK WHO?"
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10-23-2017, 02:41 AM | #570 |
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Oh. Jobbing to Roman Reigns. Fantastic. I still no idea who that is but I'ma google.
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10-23-2017, 02:42 AM | #571 |
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Ah, ok. A ginger. Pass.
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10-23-2017, 03:05 AM | #572 |
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I actually wasn't sure if you were referring to Cedric Alexander or Jason Jordan but either one worked for my reference about WWE not being able to make new stars and how either one could easily be main eventing WrestleMania soon.
Now that you said "A ginger" though, I'm really curious about who you were talking about and what you Googled. |
10-23-2017, 03:10 AM | #573 |
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I was thinking of the actor who played George in Seinfeld, but he's not ginger...
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10-23-2017, 03:13 AM | #574 |
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I was genuinely interested to check out this show, but thought I would check out reviews first. Glad I did before I spent the investment. Nice try, WWE. You almost got me.
Doesn't seem like a "real return" for Angle yet. He will be back and do other things, but they've saved the pomp and circumstance for when it might matter. This kind of reminds me of HBK wrestling in jeans at SummerSlam 2002, or the brown hair and bob at Survivor Series that same year. |
10-23-2017, 03:17 AM | #575 |
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If it seemed anything like HBK at SummerSlam 2002, I'd be jumping on watching this match in an instant.
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10-23-2017, 03:20 AM | #576 | |
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10-23-2017, 03:32 AM | #577 |
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Not it terms of quality. Just in terms of a guy showing up and making you wonder just what he's going to be like, and kind of back-pocketing some of that "real return" magic.
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10-23-2017, 03:58 AM | #578 |
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Forgot to mention it earlier, but strange as it was, this card shakes out as a VERY strong contender for PPV of the year, and I'm absolutely 100% serious.
My grade is an A-. If they'd maybe had Kalisto and Enzo have a ladder match and/or had the CW tag be an elimination tables match, we'd be talking A to possibly even A+ territory. |
10-23-2017, 04:06 AM | #579 |
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10-23-2017, 04:08 AM | #580 |
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@DAMNiNATOR: How concerned are you about Asuka being misused/lost in the shuffle on the main roster?
Because the last time we discussed this you were quite judgmental about me thinking the main roster might ruin her. And now one match in, you seem to be skeptical. I'm wondering what changed. |
10-23-2017, 07:45 AM | #581 | |
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10-23-2017, 07:52 AM | #582 |
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I dunno wtf Noid is on about. The show was pretty damn good. Angle may have been gone for a chunk of the match, but he took bumps, he delivered his moves with excellence, and he looked pretty damn good from what we saw of him. I think him even leaving for a bit could be construed as building something with Braun, not necessarily for a feud, but for character development and future interactions between them backstage, like Braun getting what he wants from Kurt under threat of maiming.
Regardless of all that, the main event alone was worth the price of admission. I said it before and I'll say it again: That might just have been the best clusterfuck I've ever seen. |
10-23-2017, 08:17 AM | #583 |
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too bad bischoffs podcast went mia I want to hear his take on the garbage truck
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10-23-2017, 09:23 AM | #584 |
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I only watched Styles/Balor and the main event. Both were good matches and I didn't care about the rest the matches. AJ vs Finn was great but I don't think it's the best AJ/Finn match we'll see. Both have way more in their bags of tricks and I'd love to see a rematch at Wrestlemania.
Only complaint I had with the main event was when Angle returned I wish he was in his ring gear. Might not have had any ready on short notice, not sure. Him starting in Shield gear was cool but really thought he'd return in full USA attire. |
10-23-2017, 11:31 AM | #585 |
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That would have been sooooooo dumb lol
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10-23-2017, 12:10 PM | #586 |
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10-23-2017, 12:18 PM | #587 |
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Kurt should have come back naked
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10-23-2017, 12:18 PM | #588 |
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I think you guys are overthinking the Kane/Braun thing. Seemed to me like Kane came back to take out Roman Reigns and avenge his fallen brother (which Roman brags about all the time). As far as what happened in the actual match, Kane and Braun have both always been presented as unstable, so they can attack anyone at any time and it won't really indicate an alignment change. Since Roman couldn't make the match, they shoehorned in Angle, who they probably didn't want going TOO hard...so they take him out of the match completely for ten to fifteen minutes, and they needed a way to not make it a 2 on 5 stomping. Play to the mosters' insecurities until you're ready for Angle to come back, and there you go.
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10-23-2017, 12:30 PM | #589 | |
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10-23-2017, 12:47 PM | #590 |
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10-23-2017, 12:47 PM | #591 |
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Just watching some of the event now. I wonder if Swann and Cedric were given more of a clearance to fly because they were certainly more flippy than they have been since 205 Live was a thing.
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10-23-2017, 12:51 PM | #592 |
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Whenever i get powerslammed thru a table i throw on a singlet and i feel 100 per cent better. It holds you in place after the bodily trauma has been sustained.
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10-23-2017, 12:52 PM | #593 |
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I also feel like I should reiterate that I really enjoyed TLC. There were literally ZERO bad matches, and it was a lot of fun.
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10-23-2017, 12:59 PM | #594 |
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Feel like you have a huge personal investment in liking wwe
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10-23-2017, 01:00 PM | #595 |
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I really don't. I do really enjoy it a lot, though. Is that gonna be OK?
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10-23-2017, 01:01 PM | #596 |
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I'm liking the buzz around the crowd for TLC too. There's been loud crowds, but with all the last minute changes, the crowd just has a different energy about them.
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10-23-2017, 01:02 PM | #597 |
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10-23-2017, 01:03 PM | #598 |
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The tag match was the best cruiser match they've had in a while. I have to give props to Jack Gallagher. Wrestling in a suit has gotta suck ass.
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10-23-2017, 01:03 PM | #599 |
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Story of my life.
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