08-13-2017, 12:34 PM | #161 |
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AND HE LOOKS FUCKING FINE |
08-13-2017, 12:38 PM | #162 |
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That pop and women actually crying. That was amazing.
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08-13-2017, 03:59 PM | #163 |
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With the unexpected travel im further behind that i thought i would be. On the main from 7.27
Omega v Elgin. Elgin is not even remotely over. Shame, really like the guys stuff. Omega might as well be out there alone though. |
08-13-2017, 04:10 PM | #164 |
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So if the winner of G1 isn't the champion then they get a title shot at WrestleKingdom in 5 months? That's some long term booking. Jesus Christ. lol
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08-13-2017, 04:18 PM | #165 |
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08-13-2017, 04:20 PM | #166 |
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It's still insanely long term booking to give a title shot 5 months out.
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08-13-2017, 04:25 PM | #167 |
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Kinda standard really. Mania build starts in august and culminates in march/april
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08-13-2017, 05:04 PM | #168 |
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There isn't a title shot won until the Rumble 2 months out.
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08-13-2017, 05:08 PM | #169 |
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It's more like money in the bank with a set date than the royal rumble. At least for the last few years the G1 winner has had to defend their Wrestle Kingdom title shot at the PPV's before Wrestle Kingdom.
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08-13-2017, 05:09 PM | #170 |
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Dont see the diff. Angles are still being built as early as summer slam. I mean yeah westerns audience have a terrible attention span but the angles are being built all the same. They just do it as more of a for shadowing as opposed to an overt announcement.
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08-13-2017, 05:12 PM | #171 |
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Not a huge believer in Michael Elgin myself. Super bland.
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08-13-2017, 05:17 PM | #172 |
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I like power houses
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08-13-2017, 05:21 PM | #173 |
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Alright, well that's different. I didn't know they actually had to defend the shot. Thought it was just flat out announcing the main event of Wrestle Kingdom 5 months in advance.
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08-13-2017, 05:24 PM | #174 |
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The shpt isnt even a garunteed thing...after all the champ could win g1
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08-13-2017, 05:26 PM | #175 |
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WWE "starts building" toward WrestleMania at SummerSlam and can (and do) change things up along the way. There's definitely a difference between that and overtly announcing the main event of WrestlMania at SummerSlam. Stop arguing for the sake of arguing so much. lol
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08-13-2017, 05:27 PM | #176 |
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08-13-2017, 05:31 PM | #178 |
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We lnew cena vs rock 2 years before it happened
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08-13-2017, 05:32 PM | #179 |
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08-13-2017, 05:33 PM | #180 |
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I think it's way harder to keep people interested once you've told them exactly what the title match of the big show in 5 months is going to be. The title picture is set. There's no more drama to be had. Now it's just 5 months of build. New Japan could do it, I'm sure. WWE, not so much.
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08-13-2017, 05:34 PM | #181 |
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08-13-2017, 05:34 PM | #182 |
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(And that isnt a bad or good thing)
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08-13-2017, 05:35 PM | #183 |
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08-13-2017, 05:36 PM | #184 |
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Of course, it's moot now because I didn't know the G1 winner had to defend his shot until then. But there's definitely a big difference between announcing the match and relying completely on build and actually building the story of what the match might be.
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08-13-2017, 05:45 PM | #185 |
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Wrestling is sport in Japan, religion in Mexico, tradition in Canada and theater in America. How we build programs all stems from that. In Japan the match is the story. UFC annouces bouts months out, all combat sports do. Wrestling is the same in JPN.
Here its a soap. Whats going to happen next week. Which is fine. Wouldnt work there though. |
08-13-2017, 05:46 PM | #186 |
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Doesn't really work in the states anymore
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08-13-2017, 05:47 PM | #187 |
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And what works there doesn't work here.
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08-13-2017, 05:48 PM | #188 |
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I wouldnt know what working tbh. I catch the ppvs and thats it, numbers are trending down though...but the numbers trending down correlate with them going to a more sport based product...so i dunno.
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08-13-2017, 05:49 PM | #189 |
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nah, it's still as soapy as ever. For every "sportsy" thing they do, they do something else to double down on the soap aspect.
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08-13-2017, 05:49 PM | #190 |
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08-13-2017, 05:51 PM | #191 |
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Honestly, they'd probably be in a better position if they picked a path and went with it. They switch back and forth between catering to the marks and ignoring them and it's just a big mess.
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08-13-2017, 05:52 PM | #192 |
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yeah I agree. I look back to 2000 and it was still super soapy, but with amazing matches that made sense for whatever reason. If it's a soap like that, I can deal. Next thing you know, HHH is fucking a corpse.
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08-13-2017, 05:53 PM | #193 |
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Soapy is fine as long is its compelling
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08-13-2017, 05:54 PM | #194 |
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Ya'll acting like long term booking is a bad thing.
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08-13-2017, 05:59 PM | #195 |
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Who said that?
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08-13-2017, 05:59 PM | #196 |
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08-13-2017, 06:05 PM | #197 |
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08-13-2017, 07:22 PM | #198 |
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Only saw up to the intermission live last night and just finished catching up to the rest of the Finals show.
Daryl lives Naito-Omega match was great overall. Ouch at Naito completely missing the table for the piledriver spot. |
08-13-2017, 07:53 PM | #199 |
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As a new NJPW fan trying to catch up a little, this tournament did an amazing job setting up challengers for Okada.
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08-13-2017, 07:56 PM | #200 |
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Watched Elgin vs Omega in that U.S title thingy. Omega has a great look and is definitely a star. Elgin looks like Bill Demott. The match itself is way too much overkill. Does every match require an opponent to be shot, dismembered and burned with battery acid to get a three count? Good lord.
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