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05-01-2018, 04:13 PM | #1843 | |
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***Update*** * Roman Reigns has been working hurt since Wrestlemania. Roman did not have physical activity of any kind on WWE TV from Wrestlemania until 'The Greatest Royal Rumble Ever' as they were trying to let him heal up and rest. Roman got more banged up on the cage spot at GRR. * WWE is toying with the idea of turning Randy Orton heel again * Lashley was not blamed at all for the botched suplex with Cass at GRR. The botch was on Cass's end as he did not post on Bobby's hip at all, which gave Lashley no support for his weight. * Officials are very aware of the poor job that has been done with Bobby Lashley thus far. It is one of those situations where he was simply lost in the shuffle due to the Superstar Shake-up and Vince changing his mind on things. Vince wanted Lashley to debut the night after WrestleMania but didn't account for the Shake Up causing him to get lost in the shuffle. Again, they are aware of this and will be attempting to make him look special in the coming weeks. * Vince is concerned that Ronda Rousey is appearing on television too much and sees her as more of a special attraction, akin to Brock Lesnar. * Brock's next title defense will be at Money In The Bank. |
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05-01-2018, 05:29 PM | #1844 |
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Vince should take that approach to a lot his main event guys. As nxt has shown, less is more.
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05-01-2018, 06:08 PM | #1845 |
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Interesting stuff.
* Roman Reigns working hurt actually strongly supports not putting the belt on him. I mean, it isn't working, but that doesn't stop them. * Randy Orton turning heel is something that has been rumored for a long time, and just given the frequency of those turns, should be expected. Orton turning on Jeff is something I am personally hoping for. * It doesn't surprise me. Lashley is a hoss and Cass is inexperienced and not very good in the ring. * I actually like what they've done with Lashley. If they brought him and went and got Michael Cole to do his phony hype stuff, people would reject it, because they've gotten that wry about the product. The WWE has created this monster where people reject pushes, and sometimes they are right, but sometimes they don't even know why. Teaming him with Braun is a great way to get that "overness" I keep hearing about Braun onto Lashley without blatantly having Lashley usurping Braun, upsetting the fans, even though Lashley is 10x better. * Vince is right about Ronda. * Brock's next title defense being at Money in the Bank means that he will have spent 441 days as Universal Champion, lasting longer than Punk did with the WWE Title as Brock heads into Chicago. Brilliant. God, I hope Heyman plays that up. |
05-01-2018, 06:15 PM | #1846 |
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Something to point out about Brock's Universal Title reign. He's currently at 10 defenses, not counting the AJ Styles match, which wasn't for the belt, but had championship stakes on the line in a kayfabe sense. Kazuchika Okada is at 11 defenses of the IWGP Title over a 680 day period, which averages out to a defense ever 62 days or so. Brock's been defending the Uni Title every 39 days. If we're only counting televised matches, then Brock is at 6 without counting the AJ Styles win, which only puts Brock at 66 days. Obviously this doesn't mean that the Brock and Okada reigns need to feel the same to people, but when we're talking technicalities, it's either much of a muchness or Brock has actually defended his belt much more frequently than Okada has his.
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05-01-2018, 06:44 PM | #1847 | |
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In regards to Ronda, kind of telling WWE's way of protecting Ronda's aura from their booking is to not have her on tv. Unlike Lesnar, she really needs all the tv experience possible (promos & wrestling skills). Right now her star power isn't carrying over in terms of constant mainstream interest for the WWE. |
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05-01-2018, 07:11 PM | #1848 |
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No one can get mainstream interest for the WWE, because no one takes WWE seriously. I imagine most people think of it as "WWE are paying Ronda a lot of money to fake wrestle and she wants a break from real fighting."
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05-01-2018, 09:21 PM | #1849 |
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I'm sorry but you are suffering from a severe mental deficiency if you think Lashley is 10 times better than Braun.
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05-01-2018, 09:24 PM | #1850 |
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You're right. It's probably more like 15-20 times better.
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05-01-2018, 09:38 PM | #1851 |
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Do you still think that Braun isn't over?
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05-01-2018, 10:04 PM | #1853 |
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05-01-2018, 10:07 PM | #1854 |
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Isn't that over, yes. His reactions are underwhelming compared to what has been reported (crowds are shit, but he doesn't ignite them), and I don't think he has the mass appeal that people say he does (or else crowds wouldn't be shit). I think he's a big dude that was booked to throw around people no one gave a fuck about the safety of, and they've been worked into thinking this makes him "good." Whenever he has to work a longer match, it's full of boring shit and botches because he's not really that good and people have just missed certain elements of pro-wrestling (squashes, big guys tossing people around) and are willing to latch onto anyone not Reigns.
Outside that, his name is goofy, his look is goofy, the angles he is involved in absolutely suck and are impossible to take seriously. He's very much a product of modern wrestling to me, and I think he's only more over than a bunch of other people that aren't over at all, which is a caveat that needs to be discussed. During the Attitude era, for example -- he is stuck in DOA or a mid-card tag team with Faarooq or something. There are two types of people in the wrestling world: People who find that gif funny and awesome, hahaha, Braun is awesome, so cool; and people who question why they are watching this lame shit. Honestly, I think he is more over within the bubble of the internet, which also tells you that Broken Matt Hardy was over, women's wrestling draws and cruiserweights matter. You begin to hear this thing again and again so you think it is more widely true than it actually is. And I do believe that people have been oversaturated with mediocre wrestling for so long that different is automatically better to a lot of connoisseurs. |
05-01-2018, 10:08 PM | #1855 |
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Kane now leads by 108 votes with 98% of precincts reporting...
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05-01-2018, 10:11 PM | #1856 |
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Thought Kane was running as a Libertarian for his mayor race.
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05-01-2018, 10:31 PM | #1857 |
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In this video you can basically see 40-60% of the audience cheer when Braun comes out. There are plenty of people just standing around watching. They then go into a mild "Yes!" chant when he gets into Triple H's face. It's not huge and only lasts about six seconds. Something more recent that I actually didn't know existed. It starts with some awfully filmed and phony backstage shit with Braun holding Elias in place while Elias tries to escape via car, and then chasing him through the arena ala Tom and Jerry. The commentators can barely hold their shit together. When Braun walks out onto the stage, there is a mild pop. The crowd does not give a shit about the in-ring action. When Braun roars, there is a medium-sized roar from the crowd. When he holds Elias in place to club him, there is no reaction, and Braun reacts to a specific fan that calls something out. Crowd seems to wake up for the weapon shot from Elias. Crowd doesn't give a shit when Elias is on offense. No reaction for the suplex punch from Braun. Mild reaction for them approaching the announce table. No reaction for Braun playing the piano, which was specifically set up to be a crowd interaction spot. Minor "Get these hands" chant, because people like chanting things. Lasts about four seconds. They roar when Braun roars, but it dies immediately down. No prolonged cheering. Minor pop for Braun winning, close-up of crowd...standing there. A few people smiling. I'm sorry, but I just don't get this "Braun gets amazing reactions" thing. People seem to roar when he roars, but even Reigns had that going for him. |
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05-01-2018, 10:52 PM | #1859 |
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On the local level they are a different party even though they do share a lot of similarities in terms of ideology. Either he recently switched to regular Republican party or Tennessee just considers both parties to be the same for primary reasons.
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05-01-2018, 10:57 PM | #1860 |
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"Libertarian" is both a political party and just the name for a political ideology. Similar to Ron Paul running as a Republican.
Knox County also always votes Republican apparently, so that was the only realistic way he could win. |
05-01-2018, 10:59 PM | #1861 |
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Also they just announced that he won by 17 votes, but there are still 43 "provisional ballots" to count on Thursday...
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05-02-2018, 12:20 AM | #1862 |
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Good for Kane. Tentatively.
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05-03-2018, 12:39 AM | #1864 |
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05-04-2018, 05:53 AM | #1865 |
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I love New Japan, and I am really rooting for them, but the <4,000 tickets thing doesn't surprise me in the slightest. The internet tends to inflate how over they are.
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05-04-2018, 09:10 AM | #1866 |
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I think it also hurts they scheduled the same state so soon after their last US show.
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05-04-2018, 09:33 AM | #1867 |
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When they announce Jericho/Naito and whatever hot match Okada and Kenny are in, and hopefully Rey Misterio, I think they can easily double what they have now, maybe more. Hoping they can at least get 7,000. I don't think this bodes well for All In.
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05-04-2018, 11:04 AM | #1869 |
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Tampa Bay wants WM or RR brotherjackdudes
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05-04-2018, 11:05 AM | #1870 |
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So far both Orlando and Tampa have publicly announced plans to bid on WM in the next handful of years
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05-04-2018, 11:19 AM | #1871 |
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Tampa needs to host a Rasslemania. So much to do. Much better city than Orlando
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05-04-2018, 04:21 PM | #1872 | |
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Cody trying to hit 10k for All-In was always going to be super tough regardless of NJPW push into the US. Even the WWE struggles at times to hit that mark for their shows. |
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05-04-2018, 05:01 PM | #1873 |
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This guy broke MetLife hosting WM35 in November 2017 and works in the ticket biz/has inside news sometimes...
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Their show apparently does pretty well on AXS, and I am glad to hear about their steady growth, but the idea that they are exploding or whatever is an internet thing -- like that "Broken" Matt Hardy was a thing. All you need to do is look at the numbers and it's quickly dispelled as myth. I think where they went wrong is thinking that the fan-base is more than what it is, and that when they do shows where they have 2,000 people attend one, 3,000 another and 4,000 another, that they've got 9,000 fans, as opposed to 4,000. Quote:
The "indy wrestling in so great; we are true artists" attitude bugs me, but it's enhanced by this "we get it" demeanor, with them constantly bragging about how much money they make outside WWE. Good for them and whatever, but it's annoying when it's clear they're kind of full of shit and do something that seems like such a daft promotional move. I don't feel as sorry for them as I do New Japan. Maybe they will draw 10,000 and make me eat crow, but if they don't, I don't know how any of them could be surprised. I don't know what indicator there has been that there are 10,000 individual fans willing to pay money to see Cody Rhodes do his mid-card WWE shtick in the main event of a show. |
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05-05-2018, 08:43 AM | #1876 |
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Aja Kong still wrestles? Those women in Japan have long-ass careers.
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05-05-2018, 08:52 AM | #1877 |
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I think just as a joke. I saw her wrestle Ibushi in a literal street fight recently.
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05-05-2018, 08:59 AM | #1878 |
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Oh, well that's a shame. But thanks for the clarification.
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05-05-2018, 09:03 AM | #1879 |
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05-07-2018, 04:59 PM | #1880 | |
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