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View Poll Results: Who is the greatest manager?
Finals: Bobby Heenan wins 28 90.32%
Finals: Paul Heyman wins 3 9.68%
3rd Place: Jimmy Hart wins 22 70.97%
3rd Place: Paul Bearer wins 4 12.90%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 31. You must log in or register to vote on this poll.

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Old 11-08-2017, 04:37 PM   #1
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TPWW Greatest Manager of All Time Tournament: Finals
Bobby Heenan



vs

Paul Heyman



3rd Place Matchup:

Jimmy Hart



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Paul Bearer
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Old 11-08-2017, 05:27 PM   #2
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Heenan and Hart. Easy choices.
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Old 11-08-2017, 05:29 PM   #3
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Old 11-08-2017, 06:04 PM   #4
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Heenan and Hart. Easy choices.
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Old 11-08-2017, 06:12 PM   #5
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This was the easiest round of the lot.
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Old 11-08-2017, 10:01 PM   #8
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Old 11-08-2017, 10:33 PM   #9
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Well, this Hart-Bearer matchup for 3rd was completely unnecessary.
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Old 11-08-2017, 10:47 PM   #10
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Nah without it bearer would have been 3rd....
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Old 11-08-2017, 11:06 PM   #11
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Hart was 3rd seed already with 77 votes to Bearer's 73.
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Old 11-08-2017, 11:08 PM   #12
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Yeah...but in my head the guy who lost to the winner is 3rd...
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Old 11-08-2017, 11:53 PM   #13
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Voted for Heenan as the greatest and Hart as 3rd place.

During the whole tournament was leaning towards Bearer as my 3rd place spot after Heyman and Heenan but switched after actually looking up how many guys Hart managed. Never realized how huge the list was and with some really notable names I completely forgot about him managing.
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Old 11-08-2017, 11:56 PM   #14
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Heenan and Hart.
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Old 11-09-2017, 12:00 AM   #15
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Now that we're here: heyman isnt as good as this reflect IMO... The test of a great manager is takkng workers who arent very good and getting heat for them. Heyman takes guys whod be over without him a cuts their promos. I dont think ticket sales go up thanks to his work he just accents strong acts. He does it well enough to crack a top 10 probably but theres a slew of guys who were far more integral to their guys success.

Heyman is like...desert. you dont need him to have a meal but its a welcome addition.
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Old 11-09-2017, 12:05 AM   #16
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lol the one person who voted for Heyman
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Now that we're here: heyman isnt as good as this reflect IMO... The test of a great manager is takkng workers who arent very good and getting heat for them. Heyman takes guys whod be over without him a cuts their promos. I dont think ticket sales go up thanks to his work he just accents strong acts. He does it well enough to crack a top 10 probably but theres a slew of guys who were far more integral to their guys success.

Heyman is like...desert. you dont need him to have a meal but its a welcome addition.
Yeah. I think Heyman dominating to this point was a bit much. Cornette's an easy #2 for me. The man made people wanna see him and his guys get murdered. And that's not even really an exaggeration.
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Old 11-09-2017, 12:15 AM   #18
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Heyman was also the defacto manager as promoter/owner for an entire company. Everybody in ECW was a project for him.
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Old 11-09-2017, 12:21 AM   #19
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Manager =/= booker and/or promoter
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If it did we need to redo this and add vince
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Vince was manager of the Corporation and should have been included.
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This is true, restart the tourney
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Now that we're here: heyman isnt as good as this reflect IMO... The test of a great manager is takkng workers who arent very good and getting heat for them. Heyman takes guys whod be over without him a cuts their promos. I dont think ticket sales go up thanks to his work he just accents strong acts. He does it well enough to crack a top 10 probably but theres a slew of guys who were far more integral to their guys success.

Heyman is like...desert. you dont need him to have a meal but its a welcome addition.
Heidenreich says hello. And the careers of Curtis Axel and Cesaro didn't exactly skyrocket, did they? Did Heyman actually get anyone shit over?
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TBF, Axel would have never been IC champ if it wasn't for Heyman.
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Yeah. I think Heyman dominating to this point was a bit much. Cornette's an easy #2 for me. The man made people wanna see him and his guys get murdered. And that's not even really an exaggeration.
Cornette is so under-appreciated on here. People vote with their hearts and not their minds though.
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TBF, Axel would have never been IC champ if it wasn't for Heyman.
Well he wouldn't have been IC Champ if it wasn't for that push. I'll agree with you there. Was that push entirely conditional on Heyman? He should probably thank The Rock too.
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TBH Heyman promos are my favorite thing about WWE for like the last 5 years. I literally care more about a mouthpiece than the performers.
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Heidenreich says hello. And the careers of Curtis Axel and Cesaro didn't exactly skyrocket, did they? Did Heyman actually get anyone shit over?
yeah no one really benifited

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TBF, Axel would have never been IC champ if it wasn't for Heyman.
Nah they gave him both heyman and the belt to help him get over. Neither worked
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Well he wouldn't have been IC Champ if it wasn't for that push. I'll agree with you there. Was that push entirely conditional on Heyman? He should probably thank The Rock too.
And Fandango for getting concussed.
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That too.
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An interesting follow-up to this would be a Greatest Promo tournament.




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Old 11-09-2017, 04:50 PM   #33
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I've got a few lined up. Wasn't gonna do a flat out "Greatest Wrestler" tournament since we've already got the Better Wrestler thing and for those debates to happen. Greatest promo would be interesting though.
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Old 11-09-2017, 04:51 PM   #34
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This was definitely the one to get out of the way first though. Can't think of any other "Greatest..." that would be this cut and dry and anticlimactic.
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Old 11-09-2017, 05:03 PM   #35
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Heenan....and Bearer. Heenan is the greatest of all time. Bearer was a supporting character to one of my favourite gimmicks....and they were a pretty much perfect fit for each other.
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Miz would get way too high in the greatest promo tournament. I say do it.
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Old 11-09-2017, 10:02 PM   #37
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This was definitely the one to get out of the way first though. Can't think of any other "Greatest..." that would be this cut and dry and anticlimactic.
Indeed. The wrestling forum posters (myself included, FTR) seem to be quite the tough bunch to please when it comes to any kind of threads involving voting. You can please some of the people all the time, and vice-versa, but it's exceedingly difficult to please everyone all the time.
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Miz would get way too high in the greatest promo tournament. I say do it.
He'd nonetheless probably be forced out pretty easily against the likes of a Jericho/Rock/Austin match-up though.
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Old 11-11-2017, 11:16 PM   #39
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I've got a few lined up. Wasn't gonna do a flat out "Greatest Wrestler" tournament since we've already got the Better Wrestler thing and for those debates to happen. Greatest promo would be interesting though.
Greatest Mullet please
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Old 11-12-2017, 06:38 AM   #40
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greatest mullet would easily be the best tourney.
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