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Old 05-01-2018, 12:13 PM   #41
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Old 05-01-2018, 03:12 PM   #42
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2004, 2008, 2009 and I'm sure I'm missing more.
I would count 2004 twice. He was setup to be the next great heel, but that's Trips spot so let's have Orton booted out of Evolution. That set him up to be the next great face, but instead Triple H got the belt off him in like 3 weeks. Orton was back to a heel 6 months later with no momentum. It took him 3 years to get a world title again after that.

I would also count his 2013/2014 run thanks to the Authority angle crap. Yeah Randy got to be champ, but that he was like the 6h or 7th person in terms of importance in that whole story arc behind Daniel Bryan, The Authority, Batista, the Shield build to turning face, then again to Rollins after he turned. Dude never even got his title rematch, instead Kane got it and Randy had to reform Evolution to put the Shield over.

Furthermore, speaking of Reigns, Randy had to put him over at Summerslam that year, all based on the HHH Authority stuff.

I am also not even counting how on Fire Orton was in 2007, but instead of him just winning the vacant title, let's have him lose to Triple H first, then have Triple H have a grueling match with Umaga later that night, and ONLY then is Randy good enough to defeat a beat up by a Samoan Bulldozer Triple H.
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Old 05-01-2018, 03:22 PM   #43
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Was it good booking though? Just because it's what the majority of fans wanted doesn't mean it was good. Bryan's booking was up and down the whole year leading to WM30 which played a big part on the fan revolt but wasn't intentional. Good booking would have had him in the main event to begin with and not had his push detailed after winning the WWE WHC and joining the Wyatt Family. It was good reactionary booking to a problem they created.
This is 100% correct, Punk quit which already had the fans miffed, so they doubled down on Bryan. Babyface Batista winning the Rumble was such a bad idea even Batista knew it. Legit only Vince the writers thought that would work.

It is ok to change the booking course is somebody is over instead of for 4 straight years of thinking "I know better, Reigns will get over".

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Forgot about Punk leaving that also played into all that.
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I would count 2004 twice. He was setup to be the next great heel, but that's Trips spot so let's have Orton booted out of Evolution. That set him up to be the next great face, but instead Triple H got the belt off him in like 3 weeks. Orton was back to a heel 6 months later with no momentum. It took him 3 years to get a world title again after that.

I would also count his 2013/2014 run thanks to the Authority angle crap. Yeah Randy got to be champ, but that he was like the 6h or 7th person in terms of importance in that whole story arc behind Daniel Bryan, The Authority, Batista, the Shield build to turning face, then again to Rollins after he turned. Dude never even got his title rematch, instead Kane got it and Randy had to reform Evolution to put the Shield over.

Furthermore, speaking of Reigns, Randy had to put him over at Summerslam that year, all based on the HHH Authority stuff.

I am also not even counting how on Fire Orton was in 2007, but instead of him just winning the vacant title, let's have him lose to Triple H first, then have Triple H have a grueling match with Umaga later that night, and ONLY then is Randy good enough to defeat a beat up by a Samoan Bulldozer Triple H.
I've got no quibbles with this. Triple H has always found it necessary to spray his stink over Orton, and it's weird that the two seem to be "friends."

On Bryan: It's nuts if you don't go with him at Mania XXX. Absolutely nuts. Of course they fucked up the booking leading into it, but it's absolutely asinine if Bryan didn't end up in that match, just like it was baffling when he didn't just win the Royal Rumble. Dale's on the money here. I also cannot believe that Fan is an Eli Drake fan, but can't see the value in Daniel Bryan. Even in infinite realities I wouldn't consider that an inevitability.
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As much as I'm with Simple Fan on the idea that Bryan was overpushed, once they teased it as much as they did, they definitely had to go with him winning at Mania. You just can't tease him winning the title that much without the payoff.

That being said, they shouldn't have teased it so much in the first place. Problem would have been solved before it ever began. No one's gonna "hold the show hostage" about Bryan only being involved in a hot mid-upper midcard/IC Title program unless you fuck around and give the audience the idea of him winning the world title repeatedly. Hell, Batista probably would have been accepted if they didn't spend months building a Daniel Bryan underdog story.
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I've got no quibbles with this. Triple H has always found it necessary to spray his stink over Orton, and it's weird that the two seem to be "friends."

On Bryan: It's nuts if you don't go with him at Mania XXX. Absolutely nuts. Of course they fucked up the booking leading into it, but it's absolutely asinine if Bryan didn't end up in that match, just like it was baffling when he didn't just win the Royal Rumble. Dale's on the money here. I also cannot believe that Fan is an Eli Drake fan, but can't see the value in Daniel Bryan. Even in infinite realities I wouldn't consider that an inevitability.
I see about the same value in him the WWE did, as a B+ player. That's why I don't think his first push made any sense. Like #1-wwf-fan said, if he doesn't get that underdog push and then have it ripped out from under him you don't have a massive YES movement like they did.
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Lol, Bryan is amazing. One of the best in-ring guys they've ever had and he has charm and charisma, which you can't teach (clearly). You don't get those initial reactions post-Mania 28, but those were two years before the title win. His work in Team Hell No and those six-man tags with The Shield are what really endeared him to people.
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Never clicked with me in the ring, not even in ROH. You act as if I think the guy is garbage but I dont, just think he was over pushed. Add to the fact that him beating 3 future Hall of Fame heaveyweights in one night just wasn't believable for me.
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Those things endeared him to people. That doesn't directly relate to people demanding he be a world champion though. Team Hell No, matches against The Shield and being the IC Title workhorse could have been his ceiling and it's not like people would have rioted been rioting... Unless WWE does what they did and puts him in the main event picture, teases him as champion and just uses him to fuck around with the fans like they did. THAT'S what led to the whole "Yes movement" thing.
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They did demand him to be a World Champion though: SummerSlam 2013.
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I'm not particularly interested in discussing just how Bryan was. People know. If you honestly believe that having Triple H beat Bryan at WrestleMania XXX was a good idea, then I can't help any further.
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Are you talking about the Raw where Cena chose his challenger? Yeah. It was pretty clearly built to have him be the one Cena chose. The fans knew it. That was the beginning of WWE teasing it and fucking with the fans by not giving them a real payoff. You don't do that with a guy people are behind and then not pay it off. It's just asking for them to turn on whoever else you try to put in that spot unless that guy is also one of their favorites. Like I said, if they never tease it, people never really care if it doesn't happen. Do you really think people would be pissed if he was putting on mat classics and having good feuds over the IC Title if WWE never teased anything more than that?
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No one is asking for your help. Im not saying having him beat Triple H was a bad idea either, they forced themselves into it and had to go that way. Doesnt make it bilevable. Pushing him towards the top of the card in the first place was the bad idea. It worked out yeah but as seen he's not a guy you can put the company on his back.
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I will say this. While Triple H going over Bryan to open Mania would have been a monumentally dumb decision booking-wise... Since it's not like that show saved WWE or was the beginning of a turn around, I wish it would have happened in a "watch the world burn" way. That show would have been WAY more interesting just to see what the crowd would have done. Like... "Fuck it. This company is the drizzling shits anyway. At least be shitty in a remarkable/hilarious way." Same reason I'd take Russo over today's writers.
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Are you talking about the Raw where Cena chose his challenger? Yeah. It was pretty clearly built to have him be the one Cena chose. The fans knew it. That was the beginning of WWE teasing it and fucking with the fans by not giving them a real payoff. You don't do that with a guy people are behind and then not pay it off. It's just asking for them to turn on whoever else you try to put in that spot unless that guy is also one of their favorites. Like I said, if they never tease it, people never really care if it doesn't happen. Do you really think people would be pissed if he was putting on mat classics and having good feuds over the IC Title if WWE never teased anything more than that?
At some point, yeah, I do. The path wouldn't have been exactly the same, but Bryan is so damn good, and when he got people into his stuff, he was one of the few genuinely over people on the roster.
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No one is asking for your help. Im not saying having him beat Triple H was a bad idea either, they forced themselves into it and had to go that way. Doesnt make it bilevable. Pushing him towards the top of the card in the first place was the bad idea. It worked out yeah but as seen he's not a guy you can put the company on his back.
I'm sorry to deflect from the point, but I just can't take it seriously from a guy with Eli Drake in his avatar. I just can't. I'm not trying to be a dick with that, and I don't think you've ever said that Eli Drake should be a World Champion, but it's just ludicrous to me. I'm sorry.

Bryan is one of the most believable wrestlers on the roster. He's lacking a bit of size, but his technical skill is pretty much unparalleled. His energy is good and he works in a way that is appropriated for bigger opponents to make the struggle against them feel authentic. It's why he'd make a great Brock Lesnar opponent whereas Finn Balor would not.
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Eli Drake is more believable as Impact World Champion than Bryan is as WWE Champion. Bryan would be ok as Impact World Champion as well but I just don't think he should be at the top in WWE. Neither should Eli Drake for that matter if/when he comes to WWE, as I've said before Drake is like Impact's Miz. Safe worker and give him a mic and you have a solid segment. Honestly can't really say anything about Bryan in the ring because I've never been interested to care so I night have to go back and watch some of his stuff but his size is the biggest contributer to my opinion I'd say. I can't take the guy serious in the ring with a real heavyweight, same thing with Balor.
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Old 05-02-2018, 06:17 PM   #62
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Can someone point me to a good Randy Orton promo?
YouTube told me this is his best promo

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Old 05-02-2018, 06:24 PM   #63
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Old 05-02-2018, 07:37 PM   #65
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Old 05-02-2018, 07:48 PM   #66
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Name a feud with Orton where he was more interesting than his opponent.
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Name a feud with Orton where he was more interesting than his opponent.
For sure him vs Kofi, Orton with Legacy was more interesting. That came to mind in about 3 seconds.
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Kofi was way more interesting than Orton. Not even close.
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Orton was way more interesting than HHH in the build to their WM match and in their original feud. He was way more interesting than Hogan in the build to their match. He was more interesting than Bray Wyatt in the build to their WrestleMania match (and this is coming from someone who fucking loves Bray Wyatt). He was more interesting than Benoit in the build to their title match....
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Thank you for the legit answers.
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Only difference I see Romans dying to be the face of the company where Orton isn't.

Flair has come out a few times and said WWE wanted him to be so. He doesn't like having to be "on" all the time when going through Airports fans wanting to get photos taken with him
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Orton was at his best when he was "psychotic" and looked like Lord Voldemort.
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I'm one of the few who actually prefers Orton as a face ass kicker playing to the crowd. It's just that when he's played that role lately his feuds haven't had substance for the most part.
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Only difference I see Romans dying to be the face of the company where Orton isn't.

Flair has come out a few times and said WWE wanted him to be so. He doesn't like having to be "on" all the time when going through Airports fans wanting to get photos taken with him
I think I can buy that. It seems like Roman wants it more.
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In all honesty, he isn't Orton.

He's Lex Luger.
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One of my favorite WCW moments was Lex beating Hollywood Hogan.

I don't think it'd be possible for Roman to deliver anything close.

Not to say that it isn't a valid defendable analogy, just one I can't get behind yet.
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One of my favorite WCW moments was Lex beating Hollywood Hogan.

I don't think it'd be possible for Roman to deliver anything close.

Not to say that it isn't a valid defendable analogy, just one I can't get behind yet.
But I wasn't talking about Flexy Lexy in WCW...
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One of my favorite WCW moments was Lex beating Hollywood Hogan.

I don't think it'd be possible for Roman to deliver anything close.

Not to say that it isn't a valid defendable analogy, just one I can't get behind yet.
For me Roman destroying League of Nations and Triple H at whatever PVP that was, that was his moment for me. Not trying to be cool or cocky, he was pure savage rage and it was awesome. Too bad WWE couldn't follow that up.
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