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Old 07-01-2017, 06:12 AM   #81
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Remember when DX came back before the PG era and was all edgy with their dropping diarrhea on people's heads, raising the pitch of Vince McMahon's voice so that he sounded funny and drawing dialogue bubbles coming from his mouth that said "I love cocks" with a picture of a rooster? Yeah...

WWE was lame and out of touch before the PG era. PG is not the problem.


Also, that super amazing edgy storyline of HHH fucking a corpse.
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Old 07-01-2017, 06:19 AM   #82
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Jericho was super over in his recent run Noidsy. Worked in today's landscape. I know you love to be a hater of the current product, but he got a list over, as well as the phrases "You're gonna get... it" and "stupid idiot". Great character work. Clunkier in the ring but he's well into his 40s.
I acknowledged the great character work. It just didn't pay off with the in-ring goods to really benefit Owens.
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Old 07-01-2017, 06:23 AM   #83
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I mean he can still "go". Just not at the same level we've been spoiled with.
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Old 07-01-2017, 07:21 AM   #84
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Old 07-01-2017, 07:38 AM   #85
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Yeah thats a tough choice cuz Bruno was the fucking man.
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Old 07-01-2017, 07:39 AM   #86
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Id go Bruno b4 Hogan but thats personal bias. I run hot and cold on Hulk tho. But he really was awesome
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Old 07-01-2017, 09:46 AM   #87
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Voted Andre. His impact was bigger, his draw bigger. Cena, despite his success, cant touch those two factors and theyre are arguably the most important.
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It's not like Andre was a lump either. A good worker, not even "for what what he was." Dude knew how to do what he needed to do.
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Old 07-01-2017, 05:05 PM   #89
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I mean he can still "go". Just not at the same level we've been spoiled with.
True. I liked his match against AJ Styles at WrestleMania, for example. More so than most, because I hadn't been watching the constant Jericho catalog. Unfortunately, I think that standard of what people expect from Jericho does set the bar high for him. He's never been a dude associated with mediocre ring work. Other guys can lose all the steps they want in the ring and still manage to keep the essence of who they are as a wrestler in-tact. Jericho's is too largely chained to being able to "go," in my opinion.

It's not like he sucks or anything, but it's always going to leave a dampness over a match when people are conditioned to expect ***1/2 or **** performances every match he has. The pay-off to the angle is going to be that match, and if that match disappoints, he's not going to have the effect intended.
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Old 07-01-2017, 09:29 PM   #90
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Cena although for similar reasons to a couple other matchups of this type in the past. Just seen a ton more of his stuff and when it occurred for a personal connection (good and bad) while almost all of Andre's career and best stuff was before my time watching wrestling.

Andre is a very deserving legend in the WWE and in wrestling but just don't have a real strong personal connection/feeling to his work overall to vote for him.
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Old 07-02-2017, 04:52 AM   #91
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Perhaps the biggest draw in the history of the business. Andre.
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Old 07-02-2017, 12:29 PM   #92
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John Cena.

Andre was the way before my time (started watching in 1992 at the age of five), and what I've seen of Andre hasn't really entertained me.
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Old 07-02-2017, 09:49 PM   #93
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John Cena.

Andre was the way before my time (started watching in 1992 at the age of five), and what I've seen of Andre hasn't really entertained me.
Andre was a 20 year vet by then and pretty much close to death and he still could draw...
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Old 07-02-2017, 10:20 PM   #94
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Lex luger is behind the death of Andre im sure of it. Andre the Giant should beat everyone in the better rassler contest except Hogan bc he slammed him at Rasslemania 3.
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Old 07-03-2017, 09:15 AM   #95
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Not much of a doubt in my mind....Andre. One of the greatest ever, and the best big man. He could draw, work and had a great presence.
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I'm curious to hear that debate. Just how recognizable was Flair? I personally wonder how far it got, because when people talk about him, they still spell his name as "Rick." He seems more "obscure" a reference.
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I'm curious to hear that debate. Just how recognizable was Flair? I personally wonder how far it got, because when people talk about him, they still spell his name as "Rick." He seems more "obscure" a reference.
He's quite recognizable. If people in Poland (well, not that many but still) recognize him I'd say that's quite something.

Most people here ever heard of Hogan, but I know a few people that heard of Flair even if they haven't seen wrestling at all.
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Interesting. The wrestlers I had heard of pre-fandom were Hogan, Andre, Austin, Rock, Undertaker, Rikishi, Kane, Mankind, Kevin Nash, Kane, Mr. Ass and Goldberg.
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Absolutely not nation wide. The South was always NWA/WCW country. From TX to VA was a stronghold. You couldnt get around with out hearing about it.


This is not hear say. This was how it was until Steve Austin.
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I legitimately wish I had more to contribute on the subject, but I've never really appreciated the impact of the NWA/WCW historically until recently, due to the smearing of Vince McMahon's narrative over everything.
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Old 07-05-2017, 11:51 AM   #107
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Absolutely not nation wide. The South was always NWA/WCW country. From TX to VA was a stronghold. You couldnt get around with out hearing about it.


This is not hear say. This was how it was until Steve Austin.
Tgfd. Thank god for Destor.
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Absolutely not nation wide. The South was always NWA/WCW country. From TX to VA was a stronghold. You couldnt get around with out hearing about it.


This is not hear say. This was how it was until Steve Austin.
Vince also learned this the hard way when he caused the "Black Saturday" incident to occur which generated massive backlash from wrestling fans in the South who didn't like WWF style wrestling. Probably the first time Vince realized his growing wrestling empire wasn't as dominating as he thought at the time.
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It would make sense that this would change with Austin, as his roughneck style would go over well in the South.
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