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Old 03-22-2018, 04:15 AM   #121
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Tuna Meltz: "Regarding the All In show and the 9/1 date, the plan was to hold the show later with Danielson headlining. However, they were aware of Danielson working so hard to get cleared by WWE. They felt there was a significant enough chance for it to happen, and decided upon, and later announced the Labor Day weekend show, a date where it was impossible Danielson could appear on. Cody also stopped doing the LeBell lock and they stopped teasing Danielson's name in social media. On the flip side, Danielson was still studying non-WWE wrestling, in particular of Zack Sabre Jr., and thinking about the idea of a vegetarian submission masters tag team."
While this is the best outcome overall, that tag team would be incredible.
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Old 03-22-2018, 04:18 AM   #122
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I dunno, I'm a bit skeptical that Bryan was really ever going to go elsewhere.
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Old 03-22-2018, 05:14 AM   #124
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If WWE never cleared him by the end of his contract, I'm sure he would have. I'm more convinced after his speech on Smackdown.

Getting cleared by WWE was the ultimate goal, but he could have also thought that spending a year on the indies and being fine could have been a path back to WWE had this not all happened.
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Old 03-22-2018, 07:43 AM   #125
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Yeah, this is why I'm not worried about Bryan:

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I honestly wouldn't mind it if that policy was rolled out to everyone, but that would be time and resources.
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Old 03-22-2018, 08:58 AM   #126
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If WWE never cleared him by the end of his contract, I'm sure he would have. I'm more convinced after his speech on Smackdown.

Getting cleared by WWE was the ultimate goal, but he could have also thought that spending a year on the indies and being fine could have been a path back to WWE had this not all happened.
People say that, and there's no way to prove or disprove it -- we're talking strictly hypothetical situations. But with his wife's brand to think about and his daughter, I think he would have accepted a new WWE deal to be a trainer, occasionally appear on the air, do a Hall of Fame thing, be a talking head and be in their video games. I'm not discounting the dude's passion, but I think the deal he would have gotten would have just eclipsed anything else he could have done, and the stank of him not being cleared by the WWE would have followed him, at least a little.

It wouldn't surprise me if contract negotiations greased some wheels and convinced the WWE to look at things again, but I just don't think he would have left seven figures on the table to go and take bumps in Mexico and ruin his wife's show and all that sort of stuff.
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Old 03-22-2018, 10:55 AM   #127
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The impact test after every single match feels to me like this is not someone who should be wrestling.

Hope I'm wrong and it's juts precautionary, but it seems like overkill from people who are extremely worried
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Old 03-22-2018, 11:01 AM   #128
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The impact test after every single match feels to me like this is not someone who should be wrestling.

Hope I'm wrong and it's juts precautionary, but it seems like overkill from people who are extremely worried
Theyre just covering themselves in the punk lawsuit, calm your tits.
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Old 03-22-2018, 11:28 AM   #129
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Yeah it's pretty smart. Only problem is it's kind of a self fulfilling prophecy. The second he takes a knock on the noggin, he's pretty much fucked.
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Old 03-22-2018, 02:12 PM   #130
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They are pretty calm I think. Haven't made any phone calls to WWE headquarters yet anyway
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Old 03-22-2018, 03:15 PM   #131
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I don't see how that does anything. It won't stop his brain from being mush the next time he gets his bell rung.
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Old 03-22-2018, 03:22 PM   #132
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I don't see how that does anything. It won't stop his brain from being mush the next time he gets his bell rung.
I don't think all concussions are made the same.
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Old 03-22-2018, 03:42 PM   #134
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I don't think all concussions are made the same.
Yeah, I mean, Mick Foley probably had more than a few
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I don't see how that does anything. It won't stop his brain from being mush the next time he gets his bell rung.
Its his brain mom
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Old 03-22-2018, 04:27 PM   #136
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Who cares? He is a grown man. If he wants to wrestle why should anyone tell him different? He knows the risks, if there are any.
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I'm a huge hockey fights fan, but seeing what has happened to guys like Wade Belak, Stephan Peat, Matt Johnson, Steve Montador, the list goes on and on as a result of repeated concussions, it's make you rethink things.
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I mean I've read the articles as well. And we saw how it effected a guy like Benoit. But he was pretty much begging for concussion after concussion.

Hockey fighters literally get punched in the head every night. The way guys wrestle now, is meant to avoid head trauma. Bryan's style certainly was, but if makes a few changes and avoids the unnecessary stuff, he won't go the way of the hockey enforcer.

Plus, baseline tests every night will keep him relatively safe. The second he gets his bell rung, that's pretty much it.
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It's definitely not avoiding trauma and Bryan's style was definitely not avoiding it. Top rope diving head butt, top rope flat back missile dropkick, suicide dive etc...

At their peak a fighter was maybe fighting 30 times a season. Hardly the same as taking bumps 300 days a year.
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Sorry I made a typo. I meant Bryan was conducive to trauma and he needed to change his style.
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The baseline tests basically will diagnose a concussion that already occurred. The concussion still happened. With his history the next one could be it. I don't want to see another Matt Johnson where he a homeless pill head. It happens far more often than people realize.
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You're a little sensitive to the matter. Those guys were subjected to more abuse thanBryan
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He was cleared though, so I think that means, in the likely case he gets another concussion, he can take some time off and heal up a bit, and then go back. He's not going to die if he gets another concussion, he's going to get another concussion, almost every wrestler will. The point of him being cleared is that if he gets another concussion, he isn't in some kind of red zone danger area, it would be just like a normal person getting a concussion.
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You're a little sensitive to the matter. Those guys were subjected to more abuse thanBryan
Not necessarily
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He was cleared though, so I think that means, in the likely case he gets another concussion, he can take some time off and heal up a bit, and then go back. He's not going to die if he gets another concussion, he's going to get another concussion, almost every wrestler will. The point of him being cleared is that if he gets another concussion, he isn't in some kind of red zone danger area, it would be just like a normal person getting a concussion.
There's no such thing. Those previous concussions don't just disappear.
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Let's be real. Gertner just does not want to watch another vanilla midget wrestle.
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Not necessarily
I'm sorry. But I don't subscribe to everything being a concussion. It's the new SJW culture in sport. Like most things, the truth lies in the middle.

You notice how Mats Sundin (who was dealing with heavy body contact every night) didn't suffer the same trauma as Wade Belak? You don't think Mats was taking lumps to the dome?

Enforcers were subjected to a fight pretty much every night they played. And likely remained quiet about concussion symptoms as a means to keep their job.


Bryan's style in the ring has always been high intensity, and it caught up with him. But it's not the same as subjecting yourself to maliciously thrown haymakers at your head, night in and night out.
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Newsweek featured a piece this afternoon about WWE reinstating Daniel Bryan to return to the ring as an in-ring performer, including an comments from Neurosurgeon Dr. Robert Cantu, one of the medical experts who cleared Bryan.

“I evaluated Bryan for a neurological opinion on return to WWE on February 26, 2018. Included in his medical records were multiple evaluations by renowned concussion clinicians,” Cantu told Newsweek's Tufayel Ahmed. “I determined that Bryan is currently asymptomatic, has a normal detailed neurological and cognitive neuropsychological examination, normal EEG, and an MRI that showed no definite evidence of a prior brain injury. It is my medical opinion that there is no absolute contraindication to his return to in-ring action in WWE."
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I'm sorry. But I don't subscribe to everything being a concussion. It's the new SJW culture in sport. Like most things, the truth lies in the middle.

You notice how Mats Sundin (who was dealing with heavy body contact every night) didn't suffer the same trauma as Wade Belak? You don't think Mats was taking lumps to the dome?

Enforcers were subjected to a fight pretty much every night they played. And likely remained quiet about concussion symptoms as a means to keep their job.


Bryan's style in the ring has always been high intensity, and it caught up with him. But it's not the same as subjecting yourself to maliciously thrown haymakers at your head, night in and night out.
It is because you're taking bumps night in and night out.
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Let's be real. Gertner just does not want to watch another vanilla midget wrestle.
I don't watch current wrestling and haven't for a few years
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It is because you're taking bumps night in and night out.
I think there's a difference between a bump and direct contact with the head. Of course when you're concussed, absorbing big knocks/recoil is going to be an ongoing concern, but taking a flat back bump properly is not going to cause concussions where there isn't. Keep in mind Gertner, he's been cleared, tested, and proving of showing no actual susceptibility to concussions.

I would compare what happened to Daniel Bryan with what happened to Sidney Crosby. Looked like "the kid" was done, and he's been better than ever. It's not like he isn't getting his ass run into the boards night after night.
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Goes with Inno's post a few earlier
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Well yeah he had like a dozen doctors say this for years.

Thisnisnt complicated: wwe legal used danielson as leverage in a law suit. This is and always was fake news.
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