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Old 09-27-2017, 01:16 AM   #1
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Star Trek: Discovery

First two episodes were really good. Honours the canon and shows that have come before it while imbuing itself with a much-needed contemporary vibe that better reflects the kinds of shows people want to watch now. Seems to succeed at being a modern prequel where Enterprise failed (for a few reasons).

The proximity to the original series is good too, since it allows for elements of it to bleed across, and I am on board with the Klingons being antagonists again, since that's not really been the case since TOS (at a stretch, The Undiscovered Country).

I have no problem with the way they're presented in this series, either; I know a few fans have got all high and mighty about the changes to their look and, to an extent, their behaviour, but I think it all flies just fine. Nothing wrong with making them look a little more alien than just "people with ridges".

Sucks that it's only available on CBS All Access in the States; we've got it on Netflix here, so hopefully international numbers on more accessible streaming services will help bolster its audience figures to ensure it gets a good run, because I imagine it'll struggle at home with convincing people to pick up another streaming service. It's a double-edged sword, though; if enough people get CBS' thing to make it a viable series for several seasons, it validates the idea of splintering streaming services, which nobody wants.

Anyway, I'm really enjoying it so far. Only two eps in and it's probably going to be the best Trek since DS9. BIG CALL but I dunno, I'm into it.


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Old 09-27-2017, 01:20 AM   #2
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I wasn't too crazy about it, but there was enough to keep me watching.

One thing that bugged me was the overusage of the Adam West Batman Villain camera angle. Made me think that everyone was up to something.

Also, who decided to name a girl character Michael?
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Old 09-27-2017, 01:24 AM   #3
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I'm guessing one of two things (or a combination of both): the role was originally written for a guy and/or when they cast Martin-Green, they figured that 23rd-century people wouldn't be hung up on gender any more and are using the name as a means to demonstrate the point.

I mean, it's kinda weird, since in 10 years (show time) the women of the Federation will be rocking miniskirts but still. Can't account for everything.

What wasn't really to your liking, aside from the Bat-angle?
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Old 09-27-2017, 01:58 AM   #4
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I know they are going for something different by mainly focusing on one character, but I hope they build up the ensemble crew and let other people get some focus too.

Basically right now The Orville reminded me more of "classic Trek" so I guess I wanted something more traditional, but without the terrible humour of The Orville and better production values.
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Old 09-27-2017, 02:00 AM   #5
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Also, totally not anything to do with the quality, but I was totally distracted by Theo Gallavan playing Sarek..... first few times he appeared I was like "that dude looks so familiar"

Finally had to pause and check IMDB, and then I couldn't unsee it.......
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Old 09-27-2017, 02:37 AM   #6
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I know they are going for something different by mainly focusing on one character, but I hope they build up the ensemble crew and let other people get some focus too.

Basically right now The Orville reminded me more of "classic Trek" so I guess I wanted something more traditional, but without the terrible humour of The Orville and better production values.
Yeah, I didn't mind The Orville but it cribs pretty heavily from TNG in its execution, right down to the aesthetic, soundtrack and fadeout act breaks. And yeah, its humour is weirdly middling. Not that MacFarlane has been particularly great for several years but I dunno, felt... toothless? Saw someone describe it as "Star Trek, but for [MacFarlane]", which is pretty much on the money. Feels very much like it's just "I have the money and clout to do this so I'm gonna do it for me".

I'm sure the Discovery crew focus will broaden from hereout; read somewhere that the first two episodes are kind of like a 'prologue' for the wider series, since we haven't even seen the USS Discovery (or the main captain) yet. I've got faith they'll spread it around as it moves forward.

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Also, totally not anything to do with the quality, but I was totally distracted by Theo Gallavan playing Sarek..... first few times he appeared I was like "that dude looks so familiar"

Finally had to pause and check IMDB, and then I couldn't unsee it.......
Had this exact reaction too tbh. Good Sarek though.
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Old 09-27-2017, 02:45 AM   #7
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Meh. Marc Lenard is the only Sarek. Movie Sarek and Galavant just sounded like they were constipated. Too bad they can't find anybody who sounds like Marc Lenard. Episodes were good.
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Old 09-27-2017, 02:48 AM   #8
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Old 09-27-2017, 02:53 AM   #9
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So it gets better? I've only watched the pilot so far and it was OK, like decent enough for me to come back for at least a couple more but it's nice to hear there's early improvement.
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Old 09-27-2017, 03:34 AM   #10
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Yeah the second episode was a little bit like the Cage from TOS. The 3rd was classic TNG episode like "A Measure of a Man."
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Old 09-27-2017, 11:30 AM   #11
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I'm going to wait until there are some more episodes available; I can't really do the whole one-episode-a-week-thing, anymore. Let me binge at my leisure.
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I think both shows have the ability to give everyone what they want and i hope both will be allowed to continue to do so. I am, like others, a little annoyed to pay 5.99 a month to watch it however so I guess I will wait for the rest until it comes to American netflix in the spring sometime ( I assume).

I kind of wish they would have placed Discovery a little further back in the timeline tio allow them to frollic some and I am very very curiious to see how diffrent these Klingons really are.
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I am intrested I'll say that Klingons look awesome

I'm on the fence about what Michael did but over all I liked it ok hoping they only improve from here(I have faith it will because Voyager was a mess and we still got great stuff from it.)

Enterprise just sucked
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I wish the Klingons did look more traditional, but I don't have a problem with change so I accept it.
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To be fair the Klingons on the Original looked nothing like the ones on TNG onward
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Really enjoyed the third episode. If they wanted people to sign up to some online service to watch the show, they should have showed that episode on TV. Seems like it is actually the "real" pilot, and the first two episodes were just "prologue".........
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Old 10-02-2017, 08:37 AM   #19
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Interesting to see how they work this without messing with the timeline
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Old 10-15-2017, 11:27 PM   #20
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"Whoa" at casual f-bombs being dropped in tonight's episode......
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Old 10-15-2017, 11:50 PM   #21
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Old 10-16-2017, 12:21 AM   #22
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Old 10-16-2017, 12:48 AM   #23
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Old 10-16-2017, 02:35 AM   #24
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Really enjoying this series. I've always been more Star Trek than Star Wars.

I really like Captain Lorca. Usually, the captain is a whiter than white character who follows all rules and protocol. It's nice to see shades of grey and a captain willing to do whatever it takes.
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