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Old 01-10-2016, 02:43 AM   #41
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AJ winning the Rumble to win the title would be crazy. Styles/Lesnar at Mania for the WWE title being the ladt 2 Americans to hold the IWGP Heavyweight Championship. Probably wont happen but would be a huge shake up.
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Old 01-10-2016, 03:09 AM   #42
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I'm not buying this whole "CyNick is turning a new leaf and will now be discussing stuff rationally" thing. It's clearly a trap.
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Old 01-10-2016, 03:40 AM   #43
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Old 01-10-2016, 03:42 AM   #44
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I can't see Styles winning, and I don't know if I'd want him to, creatively speaking, but when you piece WrestleMania together, there are very few things for Brock to do.

Plus the WWE does not have the best track record of calling up guys with their NXT aura intact. Finn Balor could end up exactly like Neville if he's brought up as is. As part of a heel stable, he might be able to shine from the sides and chew the scenery and develop a personality a bit more.
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Old 01-10-2016, 06:46 AM   #45
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AJ winning the Rumble to win the title would be crazy. Styles/Lesnar at Mania for the WWE title being the ladt 2 Americans to hold the IWGP Heavyweight Championship. Probably wont happen but would be a huge shake up.
As stupid, crazy, ridiculous as it sounds, and as much as I don't really want this to happen, I actually really want this to happen simply because it's so completely "out there" that it'd be interesting to see.
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Old 01-10-2016, 08:38 AM   #46
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I'm with Fan, this has to be a trap... Still waiting for something to explode or some shit.
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Old 01-10-2016, 02:36 PM   #47
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I've just looked this bullet club up on YouTube. It's just a bad rip off of NWO but with midgets. What's the big deal?
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Old 01-10-2016, 02:46 PM   #48
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Old 01-10-2016, 02:49 PM   #49
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Just a stable of foreign guys that managed to get very popular in Japan and having Scott Hall give his blessing with the Kliq/nWo hand signs.

Them getting very popular and generating huge merch sales was something that rarely happens with foreign guys in Japan.
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Old 01-10-2016, 02:58 PM   #50
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Also the push they have recieved has helped them out alot. Multiple championships and having a foreigner hold the IWGP Heavyweight Championship doesnt happen a whole lot and AJ dit it twice. Just a cool group that knows they are over really, kind of like a bigger white New Day.
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Old 01-10-2016, 03:36 PM   #51
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So what would make them stand out in wwe? Where they won't be foreigners, won't be allowed crotch chops or wolfpac hand gestures and won't have the same push?
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Old 01-10-2016, 03:55 PM   #52
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Good question. Thats part of the reason I dont want WWE to use them as Bullet Club. I know WWE wont give them that push they deserve. Could see them keeping the crotch chops and wolfpack hand gestures though.
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Old 01-10-2016, 05:47 PM   #53
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Yeah I dunno they'll probably just be in NXT and get over there, then be brought up to the main roster and job out to ryback or Del Rio or whatever.
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Old 01-10-2016, 05:56 PM   #54
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Would probably be best to start AJ in NXT against Balor only to have Anderson and Gallows interfere on Balors behalf to start Bālor Club. Have them run through NXT and debut on the main roster after Mania. Feel like Nakumura should start on the main roster though.
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Old 01-10-2016, 05:57 PM   #55
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Debut on the main roster when Vince is dead and Kevin Dunn is in jail.
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Old 01-10-2016, 06:00 PM   #56
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I dont know with AJ being in WWE before Vince might get behind the guy but I doubt it. Seeing as how they have used Joe I dont really ha e high expectations from him in WWE.
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Old 01-10-2016, 07:02 PM   #57
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So what would make them stand out in wwe? Where they won't be foreigners, won't be allowed crotch chops or wolfpac hand gestures and won't have the same push?
balor has been doing the wolfpac hand gesture pretty much his entire nxt run.
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Old 01-10-2016, 07:04 PM   #58
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obviously that has nothing to do with how these guys will get over or be used. just saying.
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Old 01-10-2016, 07:32 PM   #59
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So unless he has more dates in Jan than listed, should Nakumura debut at the Rumble as a faceless participant?, A surprise opponent for ADR? or hold off until after WM and just tease us until then?
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Old 01-10-2016, 07:48 PM   #60
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Should definitely go to NXT first, because if he debuts on the main roster right now it would just be "Who the hell is this and why should I care", and also he needs time to adjust to the WWE style.... Don't want another Sin Cara....
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Old 01-10-2016, 07:56 PM   #61
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Screw WWE style, they should leave his sting style alone.
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Old 01-10-2016, 07:57 PM   #62
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There's a difference between a masked guy famous in Mexico than a guy famous for wrestling in America. They know who the fuck the Phenomenal AJ Styles is.

Nakamura going to NXT will just de-rail Hideo Itami once he heals up.
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Probably stick Nakumura with Itami in a stereotypical Japanese tag team. Indeed.
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They're in Japan so it's "cool"
nah, they were cool because they were cool initially, a stable of only gaijins that ran roughshod over New Japan had never happened before and they were fun, did great promos, had a catchphrase, the gun to the head gimmick after beatdowns, Devitt was on fire as a heel etc. The original incarnation (Devitt, Fale, Anderson and Tonga) were great and it was shit hot for a few months. Then (like every great faction ever) it passed it's sell-by-date and was watered down with a bunch of meaningless members (and they lost the leader/top guy to WWE. Like, imagine HHH going to WCW in mid-1998) The only reason they probably still exist is the amount of merch they move. But now they're also basically a self-aware parody of the "big American stables", the thing Japanese fans associate with American wrestling. It's not so much "stealing" and more "taking the piss".
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as for how they'd do in WWE as a group, it once again depends on how well WWE really would want them to do. Everything is new, bigger and means more in WWE. A WWE version of BC with say Finn, AJ, Doc and Gallows done 'properly' could be big if they really wanted it to be because it would be brand new to the majority of the WWE audience. Or they could half-arse it and it could be shit. Up to them really.
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There's a difference between a masked guy famous in Mexico than a guy famous for wrestling in America. They know who the fuck the Phenomenal AJ Styles is.

Nakamura going to NXT will just de-rail Hideo Itami once he heals up.
Yo, Fastway (and my reply to him) was talking about Nakamura, not AJ Styles. Styles they could get away with debuting on the main roster right away.

As far as Nakamura de-railing Hideo Itami, I say.... who cares. Only seen pics/gifs of Nakamura, but seems to have more "charisma" than Hideo Itami has (who seems to have very little). If Hideo can't keep up, it is his own fault.
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Old 01-10-2016, 09:04 PM   #67
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Would be cool if tjey carried over the storyline from njpw and had AJ fighting Balor, Karl, and Gallows for the bullet clubs betrayal. Maybe even a team up with his old rival samoa joe.

Also after watching WK10, I'm pretty excited for Anderson and Gallows. They're really solid as a team, and work great together.
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Shouldn't Itami be back by now? Feels way overdue.
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Old 01-10-2016, 09:33 PM   #69
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Old 01-10-2016, 10:57 PM   #70
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Still doing the same "just being me" gimmick.

Ive honestly just had enough of the same back and forth about the same 2 or 3 issues. I have my opinion, they differ from you guys who light the torch for the IWC, so I'm now trying to use my power of drawing people in to have discussions on specific topics. Let's face it, this place is dead without me. Dont worry, I'm sure I will still say things that bother you from time to time.
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AJ winning the Rumble to win the title would be crazy. Styles/Lesnar at Mania for the WWE title being the ladt 2 Americans to hold the IWGP Heavyweight Championship. Probably wont happen but would be a huge shake up.
Styles winning the Rumble would be horrible. The Japanese guy would make more sense of the two. But both are bad ideas.

I honestly think Styles should be just there as part of an NXT angle with Balor.

Was the Japanese guy a part of the Bullet Club?
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Good question. Thats part of the reason I dont want WWE to use them as Bullet Club. I know WWE wont give them that push they deserve. Could see them keeping the crotch chops and wolfpack hand gestures though.
Not to be a pest, but they'll get the push they deserve. If they came in as The Bullet Club or anything else, and proved they could sell merch, and had a positive impact on TV ratings and house show business, they would get pushed.

Ive watched some videos of some of these guys, and they all come off very generic to me. Im skeptical about their ability to get over in WWE beyond 3 or 4 big markets. Like will they be over in Colorado Springs? Im guessing not.
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Old 01-10-2016, 11:03 PM   #73
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Would probably be best to start AJ in NXT against Balor only to have Anderson and Gallows interfere on Balors behalf to start Bālor Club. Have them run through NXT and debut on the main roster after Mania. Feel like Nakumura should start on the main roster though.
I agree with this.

I feel like Nak-Man (needs a more catchier name) should be introduced with vignettes and put with a mouthpiece (Heyman would be logical), and let him start at the bottom and work up relatively quickly.
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So unless he has more dates in Jan than listed, should Nakumura debut at the Rumble as a faceless participant?, A surprise opponent for ADR? or hold off until after WM and just tease us until then?
I would debut him at Mania. You want to drive Network subscribers from Japan. Have 5-6 weeks of vignettes, and get a name opponent for him. Debut at Mania and win.
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Old 01-10-2016, 11:07 PM   #75
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There's a difference between a masked guy famous in Mexico than a guy famous for wrestling in America. They know who the fuck the Phenomenal AJ Styles is.

Nakamura going to NXT will just de-rail Hideo Itami once he heals up.
Dont overestimate the popularity of TNA. Certain cities will go crazy for AJ debuting (the bizzaro world cities), but most towns he will be just another indy guy. Thats why you have to beware of pops you get in cities like Chicago or Boston, because they dont always translate in Sacramento or Oklahoma City.
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Styles winning the Rumble would be horrible. The Japanese guy would make more sense of the two. But both are bad ideas.

I honestly think Styles should be just there as part of an NXT angle with Balor.

Was the Japanese guy a part of the Bullet Club?
I think leaving Styles in NXT would be a huge waste of talent kind of like they doing with Samoa Joe. No, Nakumura was the leader of Chaos though but thats a different Japanese stable that I wont get into.
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Still doing the same "just being me" gimmick.

Ive honestly just had enough of the same back and forth about the same 2 or 3 issues. I have my opinion, they differ from you guys who light the torch for the IWC, so I'm now trying to use my power of drawing people in to have discussions on specific topics. Let's face it, this place is dead without me. Dont worry, I'm sure I will still say things that bother you from time to time.
Yeah, I'm still doing that "just being me"... "gimmick"... ()

But yes. Stick to this actually discussing things thing. You'll be alright.

Still don't trust you though, so... yeah. Fuck you.
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Not to be a pest, but they'll get the push they deserve. If they came in as The Bullet Club or anything else, and proved they could sell merch, and had a positive impact on TV ratings and house show business, they would get pushed.

Ive watched some videos of some of these guys, and they all come off very generic to me. Im skeptical about their ability to get over in WWE beyond 3 or 4 big markets. Like will they be over in Colorado Springs? Im guessing not.
Colorado Springs is full of Bullet Club marks.
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