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Old 03-28-2018, 08:15 AM   #1
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What matches do you think will be left off WrestleMania?
And put on the pre-show?


No. Matches Stipulations
1 Brock Lesnar (c) (with Paul Heyman) vs. Roman Reigns Singles match for the WWE Universal Championship[57]
2 AJ Styles (c) vs. Shinsuke Nakamura Singles match for the WWE Championship[58]
3 The Miz (c) vs. Seth Rollins vs. Finn Bálor Triple threat match for the WWE Intercontinental Championship[59]
4 Randy Orton (c) vs. Bobby Roode vs. Jinder Mahal vs. Rusev Fatal four-way match for the WWE United States Championship[60]
5 Alexa Bliss (c) vs. Nia Jax Singles match for the WWE Raw Women's Championship[61]
6 Charlotte Flair (c) vs. Asuka Singles match for the WWE SmackDown Women's Championship[62]
7 Cesaro and Sheamus (c) vs. Braun Strowman and TBD Tag team match for the WWE Raw Tag Team Championship[63]
8 The Usos (Jey and Jimmy Uso) (c) vs. The New Day (Big E, Kofi Kingston, and/or Xavier Woods) vs. The Bludgeon Brothers (Harper and Rowan) Triple threat tag team match for the WWE SmackDown Tag Team Championship[64]
9 Cedric Alexander vs. Mustafa Ali Tournament final for the vacant WWE Cruiserweight Championship[65]
10 Kurt Angle and Ronda Rousey vs. Triple H and Stephanie McMahon Mixed tag team match[66]
11 WrestleMania Women's Battle Royal TBD-number-woman battle royal[67]
12 André the Giant Memorial Battle Royal TBD-number-man battle royal for the André the Giant Memorial Trophy[68]
13 Daniel Bryan and Shane McMahon vs. Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn Tag team match[69]
If Owens and Zayn win, they will be reinstated to SmackDown. If they lose, they will remain fired.
  • (c) – refers to the champion(s) heading into the match


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Old 03-28-2018, 08:20 AM   #2
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The two battle royals and Alexa/Nia should be on the pre-show. Everything else I think personally is worthy enough, and important enough, to be on the main show.

I can see the women's battle royal being on the main card though so they can further shove down our throats how important the women's revolution is, and I can see the Smackdown tag title match being on the pre-show.
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Old 03-28-2018, 08:23 AM   #3
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Cruiserweight Title
One of the battle royals
One of the tag title matches

Would be pretty shitty for the Usos to end up on the pre-show again given their promo about that very subject a few weeks ago...but I can't see the US Title being moved to the pre-show because Orton is involved nor the Raw tag title match because of Braun. And I don't think they're going to hold both battle royals on the pre-show, either.
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Old 03-28-2018, 08:27 AM   #4
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I think it will be (in this order):

1. The ATG Battle Royal
2. Cruiserweight Title Match
3. The last one is the hardest to place but I am going to say the US title match purely because of Uso's promo.
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Old 03-28-2018, 08:34 AM   #5
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Probably will be just the Cruiserweight Championship match.
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Old 03-28-2018, 08:42 AM   #6
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DAMN iNATOR, They never have more than 10 matches on the card so I think that is unlikely.
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Old 03-28-2018, 08:54 AM   #7
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I think it will be (in this order):

1. The ATG Battle Royal
2. Cruiserweight Title Match
3. The last one is the hardest to place but I am going to say the US title match purely because of Uso's promo.
This. But having Randy Orton on the pre show doesn't work for me. So I'm going to say....


AG Battle Royal
Cruiserweight
Alexa/Nia
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DAMN iNATOR, They never have more than 10 matches on the card so I think that is unlikely.
Nonsense. There's been several that have had 12 matches. WM XX springs to mind just off the top of my head.
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Old 03-28-2018, 08:56 AM   #9
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W/ Taker vs Cena, we're looking at 14 matches so I could see 4 of those put on the 2 hr preshow this year:


Cruiserweight Title
Andre Battle Royal
SD Tag Title Match (The Uso's on the preshow again!)

and either the women's battle royal or the U.S. Title Fatal Fourway
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Old 03-28-2018, 08:58 AM   #10
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Would be kind of funny if the two people feuding over the World Title at WM 33, Bray and Randy, both ended up on the preshow this year.
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Old 03-28-2018, 09:00 AM   #11
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Off-Topic too but I could see the participants in the IC Title and US title matches switching brands completely after WM in the next draft: Jinder, Roode, Rusev & Randy to RAW and Finn, Seth & Miz to SD.
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Old 03-28-2018, 09:22 AM   #12
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I would hope Rusev stays on SDL
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W/ Taker vs Cena, we're looking at 14 matches so I could see 4 of those put on the 2 hr preshow this
Oh I forgot about that match... It guess I would add Nia vs Bliss to the pre-show then aswell.
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Old 03-28-2018, 10:03 AM   #13
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They seriously need to shorten the length of the show. When I was at WMX18 that ended a little after 11 and there was one pre show match on Sunday night heat. WM23 and 24 weren't too excessively long either. Last year, holy shit. Was at the stadium at like 7:15 and matches were already going. The Roman Reigns/Undertaker match didn't start until about 11:45. Ridiculous. Cut some of the matches. 14 is way too many
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Old 03-28-2018, 10:13 AM   #14
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It is way too many. But I must say, that after getting into NJPW and watching all of the shows lately, 4 hour plus shows are just the norm these days. But of course WWE is gonna top it and go 7 hours. smh
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Old 03-28-2018, 10:18 AM   #15
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If they are going to keep having so many matches/making the show so long just split WM into a two-day event and sell the double the tickets

HOF - Thurs
NXT - Fri
WM day 1 - Sat
WM day 2 - Sun

Let each show be 3 hours if they really 'need to get everyone on the card'
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Old 03-28-2018, 10:33 AM   #16
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Nothing gets left off and the battle royals and cruiserweights are on the pre show.
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They could also just keep a lot of the matches around 10 minutes and only have two matches near the 20 minute mark (which would make those matches feel special).

Goldberg/Brock showed last year you can still have a great WM match that's shorter.
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Nothing gets left off and the battle royals and cruiserweights are on the pre show.
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What matches do you think will be left off WrestleMania?
And put on the pre-show?
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Isn't out of the question to have a squash match. I remember a fan favourite losing a world title in like 19 seconds.
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If they are going to keep having so many matches/making the show so long just split WM into a two-day event and sell the double the tickets

HOF - Thurs
NXT - Fri
WM day 1 - Sat
WM day 2 - Sun

Let each show be 3 hours if they really 'need to get everyone on the card'
This...
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Isn't out of the question to have a squash match. I remember a fan favourite losing a world title in like 19 seconds.
Cena should squash Taker... really piss the fans off.
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Old 03-28-2018, 12:47 PM   #22
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Could have THE BIG DOG squash Brock since fans will boo Roman winning no matter what
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SQUASH matches:

Braun and The Bar
Nia and Alexa
Roman and Brock

Might as well make the battle royals short since there is two of them, 10 minute tops each

Keep Orton/Rusev/Roode/Jinder 10 minutes as well
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Usos are so going to be on the pre show. What makes there match special? The Bar probably would have been on the pre show but now they are going against BRAUN. And Braun isn't going on the pre show.

Cruiserweights lol. Ya, pre show. Pre pre show would be better. Or just not at all.

Battle Royal since it has no star power. Prefer the women one too. Men would be the first match on the pre show and the women would be the last to bridge people into Mania.

Maybe the Bliss match but I hope not. Hopefully they put her on the main card. Even if it is a 3 or 4 minute squash match. Plus you need a couple filler matches right? This match and the US title matches will probably be used for that purposes (Randy has fallen so far from last year).


Does any of this really matter though since everything is on the Network though?
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This card is def not 5/7
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The matches and entrances aren't what eats into the time, its every single recap package that has already played on the preshow and weeks leading up to the event....

In my eyes, the only "long" packages that should be shown in the actual event would be a Hall Of Fame recap before they are all introduced on the stage and obviously a Ronda one.... save all the other recaps for the preshow, that's what it is for

PPV is dead, fans are already watching the event and are not stumbling across it when they pay $9.99 a month
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Are we saying 2 hour pre-show/5 hour main card? Just split the difference and say 1.5 hr pre-show/5.5 hour main card so they can say that whichever 3rd match (assuming Cruiser and ATGBR are a lock for the pre-show) was on the “main show”.
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In order:

Pre-Show

SmackDown Tag Team Championship Match
Cruiserweight Championship Match
Andre The Giant Battle Royal
Raw Women's Championship Match
Intercontinental Championship Match

Main Card

WrestleMania Women's Battle Royal
Raw Tag Team Championship Match
United States Championship Match
SmackDown Women's Championship Match
Bryan/Shane VS Owens/Zayn
WWE Championship Match
Angle/Rousey VS HHH/Stephanie
Cena VS Undertaker
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RAW Women's title
Andre Battle Royale
Toss up between Cruiser and Smackdown Tag even though neither should be on the pre-show. Would be terrible if both went on the pre-show because of the Cena-Taker match still needing to be added.

Braun and Randy's status are the only reason why I don't see the RAW Tag and US title being on the pre-show. US title has arguably the worst feud going into Mania.
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There’s a few more reasons I can see keeping the US title match on the main card; I’m imagining a big entrance for Roode with 75,000 people singing along. As tone deaf as WWE can be there’s a reason they’ve added Rusev to this match. And of course the Indian dollar from having Jinder in a prime position
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I really don't want the cruiserweight match to be on the preshow. They've been working so hard, 205 has been really great lately, and Ali vs Cedric will be incredible.

It really deserves to be main card.
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2nd from last match on the card, no doubt
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I really don't want the cruiserweight match to be on the preshow. They've been working so hard, 205 has been really great lately, and Ali vs Cedric will be incredible.

It really deserves to be main card.
Two schools of thought on this:

1) despite the work they’ve been doing on 205Live they’ve been absent from Raw until this week, the only people that are watching are the “hardcore” fans who will watch the pre-show if they want to catch the match. Nobody (including that group of people) is buying Mania to watch Cedric vs Ali. This is not a match for the “casuals”

2) showcase the match on the main card where it will get the most (potential) eyes on it in the hope that the work they put in garners some interest for the 205Live show.
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It's really awesome WWE is able to have so many important matches/stories going on though.
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