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Old 02-27-2018, 07:14 AM   #41
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Fuck this. Taker, you got Michelle McCool at home, so why don't you stay there and fuck her?

You keep coming back, soon you won't be able to do just that.
He said last night on RAW that he will not be fighting 'Taker. He'll be on SD! tonight to reveal his "path" to WM 34 (allegedly).
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Old 02-27-2018, 07:20 AM   #42
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Yeah, they often say one thing and do something different eventually. Also, if not Cena, I bet they got some other thoughts for Taker. MEh.
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Old 02-27-2018, 09:26 AM   #43
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I would be alright with it if, and only IF, we get a crotchety Undertaker. Who is just pissed off at being summoned or called out or whatever. His whole angle being "I keep trying to retire, but you keep calling me back. Do I have to strip naked in the ring to get my point across? I am done, leave me alone."

From there, he tells Cena that he doesn't need a marquis opponent, he should BE the marquis opponent. Then rip into him for making the same mistakes as Flair and Hogan.
That wouldn't be too bad to be honest, but I'd rather see it after a lengthy retirement first. Maybe if he can still go he can come back in a few years time. As it is, year in and year out... it's just another match now.
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Old 02-27-2018, 09:46 AM   #44
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Want Cena to win one of the major belts and beat Flairs streak
If he wins the Universal Title it doesn't count as a World Title.
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Old 02-27-2018, 09:46 AM   #45
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I would like it if Cena got evermore increasingly desperate and they just did a bunch of skits of him trying to goad people into fights. Eventually he has to resort to throwing food at Curt Hawkins or something.
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Old 02-27-2018, 11:23 AM   #46
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I have been a wrestling fan for over 20 years and so I believe that I am more qualified than the average fan to express my opinion. I think the WWE are making a mistake by doing a Taker vs. Cena match. I don't know what either wrestler would get out of this. If this match does take place however, I think Undertaker will actually defeat Cena at Wrestlemania. Cena would then permanently retire the Undertaker at another PPV.
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Old 02-27-2018, 11:27 AM   #47
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Old 02-27-2018, 12:06 PM   #48
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Old 02-27-2018, 02:26 PM   #49
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Hope the "letting everyone know my credentials before every post" thing is a gimmick. Love it.
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Old 02-28-2018, 05:14 PM   #50
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And now Rey Mysterio vs John Cena is being Rumored for Wrestlemania.
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Old 02-28-2018, 05:19 PM   #51
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If he wins the Universal Title it doesn't count as a World Title.
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Old 02-28-2018, 07:10 PM   #53
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The Mysterio Cena thing has been fully debunked. Wouldn't have made any sense anyway
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Old 02-28-2018, 07:18 PM   #54
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I would have liked to have seen it. A lot more than cena vs taker. Dunno if you watched the rumble, but Mysterio looks amazing now. Way better shape than when he was in WWE
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Old 02-28-2018, 07:24 PM   #55
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Honestly, if anyone deserves a part time schedule, its Mysterio. He's given so much of himself to the business. Additionaly he's still a big enough name to be a draw, and the whole reason he's in such phenomenal shape is because he hasn't been on a rigorous wwe schedule.

Just seems like a no brainer to give him what he wants, and then rake in all the inevitable merch sales that rey always generates.
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Old 02-28-2018, 07:25 PM   #56
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Taker-Cena would be cool for the spectacle at least. Cena-Mysterio would probably be a fine match but Mysterio isn't a big enough deal to warrant it. It would feel like a complete throwaway match.
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Old 02-28-2018, 07:28 PM   #57
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I dunno, if they built it up right, they could make it more meanigful than it looks on paper. Didn't Cena and Mysterio debut in the WWE around the same time? Maybe build off of that.
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Old 02-28-2018, 07:29 PM   #58
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That of course assumes WWE is still capable of building to matches in a meaningful way.
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Old 02-28-2018, 07:47 PM   #59
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Taker-Cena would be cool for the spectacle at least. Cena-Mysterio would probably be a fine match but Mysterio isn't a big enough deal to warrant it. It would feel like a complete throwaway match.
Could see Rey-Cena be as big or maybe even bigger if WWE taps into the Hispanic market with Rey.

Cena-Taker is bigger in terms of hype or dream status but they can make a ton more money off of Rey-Cena if they played their cards straight with that market.

With how few weeks are left in this year's Road to Mania, both of those potential matches are getting the throwaway treatment anyways considering the lack of build time and nobody likely getting any real lasting rub from it.
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Remember when Rey won the "WWE Title" in a tournament on RAW, and then Cena came out and challenged and beat him after Rey already had two or three matches?
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Old 02-28-2018, 07:55 PM   #61
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I think 5 or 6 years ago Taker vs Cena would be bigger than Rey vs Cena could ever hope to be. But now, the spectacle has lost a lot of its magic, in large part dud to Takers age and limitations in the ring.

He lost a log of the mgic with the steak ending, and every poor match hes had since has taken a little more each time. Reigns match was probably the best one, and even that was just okay.
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Could see Rey-Cena be as big or maybe even bigger if WWE taps into the Hispanic market with Rey.

Cena-Taker is bigger in terms of hype or dream status but they can make a ton more money off of Rey-Cena if they played their cards straight with that market.

With how few weeks are left in this year's Road to Mania, both of those potential matches are getting the throwaway treatment anyways considering the lack of build time and nobody likely getting any real lasting rub from it.
It wouldn't be about giving someone a rub anyway. It wouldn't be ideal but Cena-Taker would be fine on short build considering their statuses in the company.

Rey could draw in the Hispanic market but you can do that with any return match he has. To have a match with Cena, I think Rey would need to be properly re-introduced and hyped a little first and there just isn't time for that.

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I dont think rey's been gone so long that youd need more time than they have to build him up. People still remember who he is and tbat hes a big deal.
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I dont think rey's been gone so long that youd need more time than they have to build him up. People still remember who he is and tbat hes a big deal.
Yeah the pop he got at both the Rumble and in Japan during a NJPW show just for the tease of a future appearance is enough to prove he barely needs any time to have his star power rebuilt.

He's one of the very few legit worldwide stars where his name alone is enough to generate a ton of interest regardless where it happens.
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He's never been treated as a star on the Cena/Taker level by WWE though. Hence his big return after years away being just a random rumble appearance. People know he's a big deal in wrestling but he's just under megastar level in WWE. It would be... weird.

Like if Jericho randomly came back and faced Cena it would be cool from a wrestling standpoint but it would also be odd from the standpoint of Cena being a guy who should either be facing a young main eventer or having a dream match against a legend at Mania and Jericho just doesn't really seem... there...
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Could see Rey-Cena be as big or maybe even bigger if WWE taps into the Hispanic market with Rey.

Cena-Taker is bigger in terms of hype or dream status but they can make a ton more money off of Rey-Cena if they played their cards straight with that market.

With how few weeks are left in this year's Road to Mania, both of those potential matches are getting the throwaway treatment anyways considering the lack of build time and nobody likely getting any real lasting rub from it.
What the fuck do you mean it could make more money than taker-cena "if they play their cards right with the Hispanic market?"

Are they gonna have Cena shit on Mexico and talk about supporting the border wall until Rey Mysterio comes back to save the day/country?

What the fuck are you even talking about dude?
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Umm no. They just cater to the market with Rey to get the huge merch sales and interest from it just like they did in the past when he was in the company. Its why they've been desperate for years at having another Rey-like star but failing with Del Rio, Sin Cara, and Kalisto.

Its also why when Rey was on Smackdown during the UPN/CW days, he helped bring in a huge Hispanic market for the show.
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He's never been treated as a star on the Cena/Taker level by WWE though. Hence his big return after years away being just a random rumble appearance. People know he's a big deal in wrestling but he's just under megastar level in WWE. It would be... weird.

Like if Jericho randomly came back and faced Cena it would be cool from a wrestling standpoint but it would also be odd from the standpoint of Cena being a guy who should either be facing a young main eventer or having a dream match against a legend at Mania and Jericho just doesn't really seem... there...
I'm not saying Rey's as big a star as them. I just think that in 2018, Cena vs Rey means more. Taker being the broken down mess that he is, you'd be having the match just for the sake of having it, despite how bad it would likely turn out.

At least with Rey you have the story of Rey remaking himself for one last big mania moment, in match that would likely be stellar.

I just don't think the spectacle of taker vs cena is that special anymore. They missed their window.
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Have taker be the special guest time keeper for the match. That way you get the mania taker entrance, which is all anyone actually cares about anymore.
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Supposedly Cena vs Samoa Joe is a rumored option on the table if Taker-Cena doesn't happen according to Sports Illustrated although they've been shaky recently for reliability.
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I wanted Cena vs Joe last year. Could have been a great story of Joe being the indy guy who never got his opportunity while Cena was "handed the world". Even bringing in a little indy stable to all take their turns at Cena before they finally face at WrestleMania. Rather not see it rushed though now.
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I'm thinking the SI dude is full of shit.

Pretty much ever other insider says Taker/Cena is still on and the SI dude has a horrible track record. But time will tell...
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Honestly, if anyone deserves a part time schedule, its Mysterio. He's given so much of himself to the business. Additionaly he's still a big enough name to be a draw, and the whole reason he's in such phenomenal shape is because he hasn't been on a rigorous wwe schedule.

Just seems like a no brainer to give him what he wants, and then rake in all the inevitable merch sales that rey always generates.
I'm not saying that's not true. I'm only saying I personally don't want to see him again. He might draw, he might sell merch, I dunno, I'm just sick of the guy.
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I can understand that.

Having grown up in the 90's and the oversaturation of symbiotes in Spider-Man comics, I am permanently sick of Venom. No matter what they do with the character, or how long it is since I've seen him, I always feel sick of him.
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I’m not sure if Rey Mysterio has much to offer at this point. He was never a huge attraction like The Rock, Undertaker, Brock, etc., to warrant having him come back on a part-time basis...and taking away TV time from younger guys trying to establish themselves.

I don’t mind Rey Mysterio having “one-off” matches maybe once or twice a year, but I don’t think it’s in the WWE’s best interests to offer him a part-time contract. Cena vs Mysterio would be a complete and utter waste. I also don’t want to see Undertaker ever wrestle again FTR.

Cena calling out Steve Austin? NOW we’re talking.

I think Undertaker challenging Strowman could be interesting if the WWE are interested in having Taker wrestle again. Have Taker get a fluke victory over Strowman at Mania....after having been dominated.....and then have Strowman defeat and retire the Undertaker at the next PPV. This accomplishes two things:

1) it shows that Taker has heart and never says die.
2) you put Strowman over in a big way by having him be the one to retire Taker.

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Would rather see Cena and Mysterio team up, to be honest. Send them after one set of tag straps.
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