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View Poll Results: Who is the better wrestler?
CM Punk 18 48.65%
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Old 05-12-2017, 03:35 AM   #41
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CM Punk for me.

RVD in ECW was amazing and he was even great in WWE for a while. But his matches became so formulaic and routine. More so than usual for a WWE match. It got to the point where I cringed when his music hit.

Meanwhile Punk never got stale for me. From his great fueds in ROH with Samoa Joe and Raven, to his las royal rumble, I always found him entertaining.
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Old 05-12-2017, 03:36 AM   #42
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Thrilla also brings up a good point in that many people here seemingly haven't seen a very signifigant portion of either man's work.
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Old 05-12-2017, 06:38 AM   #43
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Punk. RVD could have been a huge deal if he cared enough to engage in the backstage politics.
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Old 05-12-2017, 07:58 AM   #44
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I enjoyed RVD more, really. ECW RVD was awesome, WWE RVD was still ok in my books but not as good.
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Old 05-12-2017, 08:29 AM   #45
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This is a much easier call for me than the Punk/Edge one. Punk was really good his whole career and kept finding new directions to take his character as well as being a great all-rounder.

RVD was great early on but he's been the same exact guy from late ECW to present. Same character, same spots, same everything really. Hasn't evolved one iota in nearly two decades.
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I voted for the one who wasn't a cry baby.
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I really feel like people who are voting for CM Punk are undermining his intense faggotry. He's spent his entire life striving to be the biggest crybaby he can be and yet people still seem to ignore all that hard work he's put in.
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I really feel like people who are voting for CM Punk are undermining his intense faggotry. He's spent his entire life striving to be the biggest crybaby he can be and yet people still seem to ignore all that hard work he's put in.
Bret Hart is pretty popular too
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Old 05-12-2017, 11:29 AM   #49
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RVD.

Finding ECW and seeing what he was doing, changed my perspective on what wrestling could be. That RVD was so athletic and exciting to watch. His character, of the guy who wanted to work Mondays, was perfect. Some really funny character stuff to go with his awesome matches.

I think he was fun and charismatic enough in the fed to beat Punk. As others have said, athletically, he was on another level to Punk. I still feel Punk is overrated because he was "edgy" and spoke his mind. But there is more fail in his WWE stuff for me than pass.
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RVD is closing the gap...
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It's an interesting battle. Both flawed in their own ways, both fucking fantastic in others.

One cared too little, the other cared too much.
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I really feel like people who are voting for CM Punk are undermining his intense faggotry. He's spent his entire life striving to be the biggest crybaby he can be and yet people still seem to ignore all that hard work he's put in.
All true, but the thread is better wrestler, not better crybaby faggot.
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All true, but the thread is better wrestler, not better crybaby faggot.
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Old 05-12-2017, 12:28 PM   #55
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I remember feeling terrible over the RVD situation in 2006. Finally had momentum and was being given a run with the top belt, dual champion even. And then

July 2nd: Arrested for drug possession
July 3rd: Loses WWE Title
July 4th: Loses ECW Title
July 5th: Suspended 30 days

I mean he completely fucked his own mouth on that one, so he has nobody to blame but himself. But as a fan of the guy it bummed me out because it was pretty obvious that was the end of him as any sort of top guy. Had been waiting for it for years only for it to end so quickly.

Once he returned he just seemed completely checked out during the last 10 months of his run, and it's sometime in there that I soured on him and never really got back to being a big fan of him.
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Old 05-12-2017, 02:06 PM   #56
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I was ok with it, because even before he messed it up, he was still not very good. Everybody was gobbling his weiner and going "Finally he gets the chance to show what he can really do!"

But it was still bad, and I wanted to hurt somebody when he became champion.
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Old 05-12-2017, 02:14 PM   #57
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I kind of lean towards Lock jaw in that RVD was criminally overrated for a while. Punk could have an amazing match sans chairs and tables and the guise of ECW. RVD could barely throw a punch.

Mind you, some of Punks offence was uh.... questionable. But he told great stories whereas RVD did not.
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That move where he caught the guys kick and did this step over heel kick thing got sloppier each time he did it, I swear to god.
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That move where he caught the guys kick and did this step over heel kick thing got sloppier each time he did it, I swear to god.
He's also put on a ton of miles and took some ridiculous risks over the years.

Hard to fault a guy for playing the hits after a while
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Kinda mind-boggling to me that there are people on THIS site who have seen nothing of RVD's ECW run. Changes the perspective of who I'm talking to around here.

RVD as the TV champion was stuff of absolute legend. I feel like I don't even have to mention the matches with Jerry Lynn, but I guess I do.

He did get stale in WWE, but if you recall, he was SHIT HOT during the InVasion, and they made it pretty obvious that they weren't going to the pull the trigger on him, which possibly could have been the reason he stopped caring.

I remember going to the InVasion PPV and talking to people in the seats next to me about how dope RVD was, as they had never seen him. After his match with Jeff Hardy that night, they all became fans.

Punk was pretty entertaining, and I'll say he's maybe the best promo of the post-Attitude Era. He was involved in some absolute classics with John Cena and Daniel Bryan, but I honestly seldom thought his matches were as great as people were making them out to be. If you would have asked me this question in 2011, I'd probably still be blinded by the pipebomb smoke, but now with some clarity and retrospect, I have to give the nod to RVD.
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RVD was like nothing I'd ever seen when I first saw him as a mid teen watching ECW. That Heatwave match with Sabu vs Shinzaki and Hayabusa blew my mind.

Punk on the other hand looked like a gas station attendant and cut a work shoot promo. So basically Punk is a homeless looking crybaby who copied Vince Russo's shit.
Aside from RVD in ECW, I would argue that his matches in the WWE were not RVD in his prime, but also not the terrible paint by the numbers affairs they're being described as.

He surely had trademark spots, but so did Hogan, Austin, Rock, Undertaker etc.

I don't recall ever watching a less than solid match from RVD. That includes TNA.
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RVD is definitely a hall of famer but I think Punk just brought more to the table. RVD was by far the superior athlete, though.
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RVD is definitely a hall of famer but I think Punk just brought more to the table. RVD was by far the superior athlete, though.
That's fine, but RVD getting so much hate in here is confusing for me.
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I think it's more in the comparison than it's about RVD by himself.
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Old 05-13-2017, 01:07 PM   #65
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That move where he caught the guys kick and did this step over heel kick thing got sloppier each time he did it, I swear to god.
Well the move was easier for him in ECW because he was using it on guys his size. When you put him in there with Kane and he hits that move it's tough for him to get his leg up that high to hit someone as big as Kane so it looks more like a chest kick than a face kick.
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Old 05-14-2017, 01:33 AM   #66
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Old 05-14-2017, 01:34 AM   #67
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This should be nowhere near as close

If RVD wins I might just have to take a break from the wrestling forum for awhile
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Old 05-14-2017, 08:25 AM   #68
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This should be nowhere near as close

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Lock Jaw threatening people for votes. Very uncool.
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Old 05-14-2017, 10:13 AM   #69
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Old 05-14-2017, 10:21 AM   #70
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Old 05-14-2017, 10:22 AM   #71
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If it ends tied the next round shud be a triple threat
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Old 05-14-2017, 10:39 AM   #72
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If it ends tied the next round shud be a triple threat
In the event of a tie the champion retains but it doesnt count as a win. The challengers gets first dibs at either the next champion or during the next vacancy. Which ever comes first.
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Old 05-14-2017, 10:52 AM   #73
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If it doesnt happen organically then its cheating...
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Old 05-14-2017, 10:55 AM   #76
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Nearly hit our apex of average voters..........
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Old 05-14-2017, 11:28 AM   #77
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This should be nowhere near as close

If RVD wins I might just have to take a break from the wrestling forum for awhile
RVD was an amazing athlete and I was always excited for his (early) matches. Some of the stuff he did was ground-breaking and stunning.

Compare that to things like Punks terrible flying elbow. Their disparity in athleticism is a big enough issue on its own to make this competitive imo.

Yes, Punk was a better personality and had that grittiness and resolve, but absolutely nothing wrong with voting for the better athlete with the more exciting moveset. He coasted later in his career, but like Gertner said, he had taken his hits by then.

Achievements are pretty much on par as performers, but RVD made a bigger impression on me. I think CM Punk is massively overrated, so easy choice.

Also, just as a PS, I actually think it's laughable that Punk beat Edge, who was a bigger star, better performer, with a MUCH better career imo, but each has their own perspective I guess...nothing wrong with that.
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Old 05-14-2017, 12:19 PM   #78
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3 hours...might be over
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RVD with a 2 vote lead. This one is over
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Punk is damn good in the ring and on the mic. But.....

Rob Van Dam is who i grew up watching.
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