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Old 04-27-2017, 02:17 AM   #41
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I bet Meltzer would pick Sting.
Lol you've never read an Observer from 90-94 have you
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Old 04-27-2017, 08:25 AM   #42
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Lol you've never read an Observer from 90-94 have you
I don't think you realize how ridiculous this statement is. Most of us would not have read an observer from 90-94 because we wouldn't have been even 8 years old yet and we're not psychos who hunt down old wrestling observers lmfao.
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Old 04-27-2017, 08:30 AM   #43
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I don't think WWE ever NEEDED edge.
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Old 04-27-2017, 08:57 AM   #44
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How about when WCW NEEDED Sting and he didn't deliver?
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Old 04-27-2017, 09:05 AM   #45
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How about when WCW NEEDED Sting and he didn't deliver?
This is more my argument. Fed needed Edge? No not really. But he made himself considerably more valuable then they had ever inteded him being.


Sting however, much like Hart, was set to succeed and failed to deliver at every turn. Early 90s, Late 90s, TNA doesnt matter. No one ever got their money's worth out of Sting.
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Old 04-27-2017, 10:36 AM   #46
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Toughest round yet. Genuinely had to leave it a day or two coz I couldn't be bothered to pick immediately. I went with Edge though. Huge fan of Stings, but I feel Edges "prime" was more entertaining and varied than Stings. Edge's also happened at a higher level, on a more global stage than Stings did.

I also feel that Edge had a lot more memorable moments that have stood the test of time, most of of what I can remember of Stings biggest moments have been tarnished by WCW's awful booking or general shoddiness. Prime example is Sting/Hogan Starrcade '97 (which, for the record, to ten year-old mark me, that was the greatest match ever and the finish didn't detract from that at all... it's only as time goes by that I look back on it and roll my eyes are how messy the whole match and ensuring shenanigans were).
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Sting however, much like Hart, was set to succeed and failed to deliver at every turn. Early 90s, Late 90s, TNA doesnt matter. No one ever got their money's worth out of Sting.
Wasn't Starrcade '97 WCW's biggest buyrate ever?
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Old 04-27-2017, 10:51 AM   #48
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Yeah because of Hogan, Sting didn't even talk during the build up and then showed up out of shape
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Wasn't Starrcade '97 WCW's biggest buyrate ever?
Yeah the hype to that match was huge, the fallout from it was bad however. Match didnt deliver.
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Old 04-27-2017, 10:57 AM   #50
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Regardless of how the match played out... he drew the biggest buyrate WCW ever had. Of course Hogan/the NWO had a lot to do with it. But it was Sting that he drew the biggest buyrate ever with. People wanted to see Sting vs Hogan.
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Because they gave his character a complete overhaul and Hogan was an unstoppable heel with an unstoppable faction and that this new character Sting played was probably the only thing that could stop them... and it flopped.

Sting didn't say a word the whole time. So wouldn't it be more fit to say the people who booked the Sting character drew the biggest buyrate WCW ever had?

And even then, did that buyrate do better than WrestleMania XXIV, which was main evented by Edge and Undertaker?
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I feel like sting did talk, it was rare, but he did talk.
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If we wanna factor in booking, we're gonna have to go both ways. Without a brand split, Taker, the streak and WWE deciding to put like the 3rd most hyped match on the card on last, does Edge ever have a shot at main eventing a WrestleMania?

Also, comparing the buyrate of a WrestleMania with that Starrcade is just ridiculous. lol
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Old 04-27-2017, 11:17 AM   #54
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Regardless of how the match played out... he drew the biggest buyrate WCW ever had. Of course Hogan/the NWO had a lot to do with it. But it was Sting that he drew the biggest buyrate ever with. People wanted to see Sting vs Hogan.
And promptly shit the bed upon delivery. You can blow that off all you want it's a huge deal.


Would be like Hogan and Andre selling out the silverdome and then putting an an all time turd. It matters.
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It's not a huge deal in this context. It drew. Because of Sting. That's what we're talking about. Whether Sting was able to draw at any point. Hogan vs Andre wasn't exactly a great match technically either. That matters if you're Dave Meltzer. Doesn't take away from how it drew. If it was a million times worse, it wouldn't take away from what it drew.
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Old 04-27-2017, 11:27 AM   #56
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It drew because it was well booked. When it was time for him to hold up his end he failed.
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And Hogan/Sting wasnt "tachnically bad" but was simply bad. It was recieved poorly.
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Thats the point here, when it counted Sting was a guy you cant count on. Ever.
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He was like a Lex Luger you could cary.
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It drew because it was well booked. When it was time for him to hold up his end he failed.
I feel like I made this same point for Taker's streak during the Savage-Taker matchup and you scoffed... lol
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I feel like I made this same point for Taker's streak during the Savage-Taker matchup and you scoffed... lol
Cant think of Taker ever failing to deliver even against turd workers he was still solid BUT LETS FOCUS ON NOW.
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You clearly haven't seen like... half the matches during the streak.
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You clearly haven't seen like... half the matches during the streak.
Taker's half of the match was never subpar. Sting's half of Starcade was the problem with that match.
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But regardless. I'm not basing my choice on draws. I've said before I don't think that's the way to judge a guy because booking plays a factor.

BUT, as far as "No one ever got their money's worth out of Sting", how much more money's worth do you need to get than "biggest buyrate ever"?
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As far as why I actually made my choice, I don't think Edge could have been a bigger star in an ideal situation than Sting.
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But regardless. I'm not basing my choice on draws. I've said before I don't think that's the way to judge a guy because booking plays a factor.

BUT, as far as "No one ever got their money's worth out of Sting", how much more money's worth do you need to get than "biggest buyrate ever"?
But that is exactly it. You dont want the biggest buyrate for the sake of the biggest buyrate. The biggest buyrate should lead to the Biggest Nitro. And that into the biggets No way out an etc. But that starcade in 97 was a big moment in the scales tipping. That match upderdelivered huge and it hurt the company. Had Sting done his end Im not convinced the WWF would have survived. But Sting dropped the ball and a lot of things went right for the oposition after that and that gap between them narrowed until finally history was what it is.


WCW did not get what they paid for that night.
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As far as why I actually made my choice, I don't think Edge could have been a bigger star in an ideal situation than Sting.
If I asked sting to give me a 10 sting would give me a 9. If I asked edge to give me an 8 he would give me a 9. Id rather over deliver than underdeliver.
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I bet Edge would've been a bigger deal in TNA than Sting was
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Old 04-27-2017, 12:41 PM   #69
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I would say Sting did help TNA when TNA had pretty much no one.
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Edge would have helped more though
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They had Kurt Angle, AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Kevin Nash, & Dixie Carter...
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Sting showed up in 2003, Kurt didn't show up until 2006.
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Sting was there for like one match until January 2006...
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I just don't get all this super high praise for Edge. He was solid, don't get me wrong, but to me he is just a tag team wrestler who benefited from WWE having a lack of talent at the right time for him. His legacy resides in the fact that they didn't have enough legit main eventers. He's like Jeff Hardy without the personal problems.
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Given everyone's age, and the fact the WWE "won the war", it doesn't surprise me that people leaned towards Edge.
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Sting is dope. But I grew up with Edge.
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Given everyone's age, and the fact the WWE "won the war", it doesn't surprise me that people leaned towards Edge.
That doesnt track for me but i feel ya
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