10-19-2014, 03:28 PM | #41 |
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Haha what a surprise Kalyx is a GGer. It attracts robotic sociopathic idiot babies who think they're amazing.
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10-19-2014, 07:15 PM | #42 |
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That Five guys video was sexist bullshit.
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10-19-2014, 07:32 PM | #43 |
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Cries about GG and giving own thread. Watches vid and posts in GG thread.
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10-19-2014, 07:33 PM | #44 |
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Saw the video awhile ago and forgot to talk about it.
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Who targeted her project? She's saying it's GG, sure, but I don't recall any calls to target what sounds like a fairly unknown and secretive project of hers. How would any of us know about this, and then organize a disruption - into the "tens of thousands of entries" - and then how did this guy know? Did he catch a call to arms on Twitter? A GG thread? Perhaps a private GG thread that he 'infiltrated'? You linked to an article from a biased site that itself links to nothing but study that reveals no intimate scale, that was warned from some guy based on whispers in the wind. But let's move on. Quote:
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Consider that right now their message is about how they tried to have a conversation and got shut down, but out in the open they do everything in their power not to have a public conversation. I mean, what would GG even have to gain shutting down her study? Perhaps the rest of the 8chan thread could light context- OH WAIT. Quote:
She ends on that note because how do we feel about hate groups? The nazis, KKKs, and Westboro's of the country? We dismiss them. We ignore them if possible. Don't look at them, they're evil. The difference is none of those groups waste time presenting themselves as anything other than what they are. What, strategically speaking, do we have to gain talking about journalistic integrity and ending gamer shaming but the trying to scare writers out of the office? For what? What tactical mojo did we use to get the women and minorities we apparently hate to side with us? I just linked an interview that featured women on our side. How did we do that? Who do we hate, exactly? Off the article, let's get back to your post. Quote:
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2) Zoe Quinn: - Had two affairs that very likely assisted her career and standing with games media. - Shut down a game jam that aimed to get women to create games. - Fabricated harassment in attempt to vilify a site called Wizardchan. - And generally speaking; cheated on her bf five times. Really now? Quote:
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10-19-2014, 07:42 PM | #46 | |
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10-19-2014, 07:50 PM | #47 |
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He used the word cunt.
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10-19-2014, 07:58 PM | #48 |
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Okay?
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10-19-2014, 08:15 PM | #49 |
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Just sayin' using that word makes him a sexist. I'm not talking anything he says about a woman seriously.
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10-19-2014, 09:15 PM | #50 |
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That's unfortunate.
But he's not sexist, and if anything he's used his channel and twitter to give women a great platform to speak up. But if his actions and arguments mean nothing to you because of a word, I can't make that horse drink that water. I can send you other vids of his where he's not talking about a woman since you're willing to take other subject seriously. There are also other vids explaining the 'Five Guys' thing that doesn't use the word cunt. Just saying there's ways around your aversion to the word, I can work with you. |
10-19-2014, 09:29 PM | #51 |
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Nope, Its not as bad as the N word but it's similar. Not acceptable in any form anywhere ever.
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10-19-2014, 09:40 PM | #52 |
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Okay fine; but would you like other videos or text on the matter that doesn't involve words that offend you?
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10-19-2014, 09:48 PM | #53 |
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The overt sexism made me shut down about the topic. Go ahead.
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10-19-2014, 10:12 PM | #54 |
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before I go hunting later; it's the Five Guys thing you wanna know about?
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10-19-2014, 10:24 PM | #55 |
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Whatever you think is relevant but that seems to be the major part right?
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10-19-2014, 11:02 PM | #57 |
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Just say what do you think you will accomplish as a Gamergate member. What's the end game? Like no more Corporate sponsors in game journalism? Like when Doritos bought IGN the Halo 4 Package for a review?
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10-19-2014, 11:39 PM | #58 |
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The endgame would be:
- The end of gender bias in games journalism. If one sex scandal is off the ropes because a developer's sex life isn't industry relevant; none of them are. Same with sextape and nude pic leaks (as far as Gawker media goes). - Disclaimers of any prior relationships between journalist and subject (Kotaku and others have already started this to their credit). - On a broader, yes, certain paid articles and corporate shilling needs to end or at least downplay. - Writers need to differentiate between a game review (which should focus on merits of the game), and their own personal of a game's subtext. This is a tricky line, but a lot of us have been bothered with how game articles are written nowadays. Polygon's Bayonetta 2 review said nothing that would help a potential buyer, but it sure was sexist, eh? They can have blog spaces for that conversation. Gaming needs to be about gaming again. - The end of toxic discourse in the gaming community. GamerGate and Game Journos can together make a huge stand against this age old behavior, we're too busy blaming each other. Nobody, nobody wants to be harassed, threatened or dox'd. Together we need to vilify this behavior. Understandably you can't stop a troll from being a troll, but since we both hate them, we can certainly make their lives hell. - Integrity, not even of the job specific kind. Some sites have made changes in response to things we called out - like a month later. A lot of people believe that GG wouldn't be nearly as big as it is if they initially identified the issue, apologized where warranted, and went from there. Closing threads, doubling down on hateful articles, bullying other members of your field for taking a neutral stance, and equating people to ISIS is not going to go well. These are things that would crumble any industry or social group outside of gaming. |
10-20-2014, 04:30 AM | #59 |
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If you had a fucking brain in your nut you'd be able to discern what you read for yourself and let the free market continue as it does.
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10-20-2014, 05:17 AM | #61 |
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Actually, it would be best if people who had a relationship in the past to excuse themselves from doing articles on their exes. They don't need to announce the details of their love lives. They just have to not write articles on people they have slept with or dated.
to Drave: I just wanted it out of News because at this point it's more opinion of what happened than what actually happened. News is news and opinion is opinion. |
10-20-2014, 09:06 AM | #62 |
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have nothing important to add except to say that I really hope the term "doxxed" does not become a "thing" people start saying
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10-20-2014, 09:18 AM | #63 |
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I agree and add that I hope "Journos" for journalists isn't a thing.
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I think that's more to do with working around Twitter's character limit (although I used the shorthand a few times in my blog). Just silly things that stick. |
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10-20-2014, 11:01 PM | #65 |
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what does Doxxed mean? Is that like "M.O.M. and P.O.P."?
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10-20-2014, 11:21 PM | #66 |
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Having you 'documents' dropped online. Just having your identity and/or address leaked.
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10-21-2014, 12:07 AM | #67 |
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Does this woman deserve the death threats? The one that spawned this shit? Who smells the Apple Pie upon entering a house? That's what I want to know. That's what we're here for.
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10-21-2014, 04:42 AM | #69 |
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Is that We gamergate or We the triangle man that lives in your head?
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10-21-2014, 06:33 AM | #71 |
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I want to ignore that body I buried behind the biscuit factory
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10-21-2014, 06:58 AM | #72 |
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You serious with this? Like... you're fine posting your first and last and address right here? Maybe you don't care but a lot of people do.
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As a gamer, the entire situation disgusts me. There will be, always has been and always will be paid-opinion articles so long as we live in a world driven by profit. The only thing the entire situation has garnered is a series of nasty smear campaigns on BOTH sides, catching those who aren't even involved in the crosshairs as well. Last edited by drave; 10-21-2014 at 12:15 PM. Reason: Fucking work |
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10-21-2014, 12:15 PM | #75 |
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Opinion articles are fine.
And yeah, I didn't mean to make doxing seem like a non-issue. |
10-21-2014, 12:26 PM | #76 |
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Is the GG community going after Youtubers who have been ousted as being paid to do reviews too?
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10-21-2014, 01:07 PM | #77 |
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We don't have issues with that, specifically.
Personally, I don't mind paid reviews. They're easy to spot and to some degree companies are at fault for making that kind of environment (though the reviewers could refuse). |
10-21-2014, 01:16 PM | #78 |
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Just feels/appears to be a cause full of inconsistencies.
I guess I feel there are much more major issues to deal with in the gaming world, if that truly is what GG is all about. Instead, lets focus on the personal lives of certain people here and there. Targeting companies that advertise on specific websites rather than targeting the companies themselves seems like a significant misfire. GG is just as SJW as the other end of the spectrum, simply in their own light. |
10-21-2014, 03:06 PM | #79 |
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I don't think so but I can say we tried to get at the companies. Their dismissive attitude is what led to this scale. Writers don't address this, get at their editor. He dismisses it, get at parent company. Company seems slow to react, holla at their ad revenue. That tends to be the steps.
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10-21-2014, 03:23 PM | #80 |
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I still don't understand why any of this is important to anyone anywhere.
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