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Old 02-23-2018, 11:17 PM   #1
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Big E The Main Eventer
I was thinking about unlikely main eventers today, guys like JBL or Jeff Hardy who at certain parts of there career felt very unlikely main eventing in any meaningful way yet the right moment or gimmick grabbed everyone and changed there entire legacy. That line of thought led me to Big E.

I couldnt help but think Big E seems a bit stuck in an admittedly very successful stable/tag team but I feel like he could be a ready made main eventer within a few months. He seems to have the look and the charisma and he works really well with a great impact style.

I could imagine with some sort of dominant heel champ, a Lesnar or a Strauman running roughshod over SD and maybe injuring a member of the New Day leading to Big E getting a bit serious and taking a sort of underdog/unlikely win over an uber monster.

Which led me to the question who is your pick of the mid card right now who has all the tools to be a main eventer but might be just a bit under utilized right now. Another name that springs to mind for me is Cesaro.

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Elias, but he's on his way.
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Elias, but he's on his way.
Elias really intrigues me, I dont enjoy his singing thing but his in rig work is pretty good and when hes wrestling he almost looks bigger than he seems normally. I could get behind an Elias push of some description.
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Cesaro. If he could talk, he'd be champion already, no doubt in my mind.
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When he finally split from Bray, the crowd was really hot over the idea of him doing something really great but WWE quickly pushed him to the side after a couple weeks.
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Why is Rusev a jobber? So weird.
Cause he's horrendous and almost the whole roster sucks so you lower your standards.
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Old 02-26-2018, 12:32 AM   #10
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Idea for Big E:

Be "severely injured" by a gang attack where he had to have plastic surgery because of a broken jaw. He is out for several months and then comes back with a "mask" sort of like Bane from Dark Knight. His attire is somewhat a mix between vader and shield's attire (or just black, padded tights like sting used to have in WCW). He slowly, arrogantly walks to his opponents as he beats them down, runs through everybody on the roster, have two guys with him (even though he doesn't need them).

He has to me more of a brawler, with some good wrestling involved too. Sort of like how Scott Steiner was in '98-00. But he HAS to turn on New Day and demolish them. He then can start a campaign where he is trying to "take over" WWE. HHH/Steph/Vince will combat this, but other wrestlers will start to align with Big-E because they can't stand the McMahons.

It will have a twist of Batman's Dark Knight storyline, but with wrestling. Hell, if they want to really want to get Brock off of TV if he doesn't renew his contract then they could have Big-E beat him.

Just thinking out loud.
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Old 02-26-2018, 04:17 AM   #11
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Naaaah, I don't see it.

I do realize you can bury your old gimmick deep down and become a whole different character (Rocky Maivia) but I dunno, I just don't think Big E is Main Event material.
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Old 02-26-2018, 04:05 PM   #12
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I could see Big E as a fun-loving charismatic babyface main eventer who can get shit done in the ring. Would have to drop some of the more cartoony aspects but personality-wise, he could be pretty over without going completely serious.
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Old 02-26-2018, 04:08 PM   #13
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Basically, that horrible thing they tried to do with Braun when they decided to have him sing a couple weeks ago. Big E doing that could work.
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Old 02-26-2018, 04:58 PM   #14
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Cesaro.

Fans love him (as in, his work), pretty much everyone on the roster seems to love him, always praising him and saying how underrated he is. Has a great look, great work ethic, has kept his nose clean.

Despite his lack of mic skills (and in fairness, he's not the worst talker in the world), the guy has everything going for him... except that Vince doesn't like him.

Vince!
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Old 02-27-2018, 11:30 AM   #15
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Which led me to the question who is your pick of the mid card right now who has all the tools to be a main eventer but might be just a bit under utilized right now. Another name that springs to mind for me is Cesaro.
Big E does not have what it takes to be a successful main-eventer. I have been watching wrestling for quite some time now and so I know what it takes for a wrestler to truly be over. On the current roster, I think the only mid card guy that really could have been something special was Cesaro. Cesaro was extremely over about three years ago, and was doing quite well with Zeb Colter. The WWE should have kept Cesaro with Colter, and should have just given Swagger's theme music to Cesaro. Unfortunately, I think the WWE waited too long with Cesaro and his time to be a successful main-eventer has now passed. He can still be a main-eventer, but his ability to be an actual draw for the company is long gone. Bray Wyatt, to a lesser extent, was in the same boat.
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Old 02-27-2018, 11:33 AM   #16
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Big E should be getting the Roman Reigns push right now.
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Old 02-27-2018, 11:39 AM   #17
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Big E should be getting the Roman Reigns push right now.
Big E doesn't have the mic skills or charisma to warrant such a push. Big E is a decent mid card act but he'd flop big time as a main-eventer. The other thing to keep in mind is that for most wrestlers, they need to be pushed within a certain window of time in order to be successful main-eventers that can potentially draw.
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Old 02-27-2018, 01:47 PM   #18
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Big E would benefit a lot from going to Japan and the Indies.
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Old 02-28-2018, 06:15 AM   #19
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Big E doesn't have the mic skills or charisma to warrant such a push. Big E is a decent mid card act but he'd flop big time as a main-eventer. The other thing to keep in mind is that for most wrestlers, they need to be pushed within a certain window of time in order to be successful main-eventers that can potentially draw.
I guess it's a good thing we have the Uber charismatic Mic God that is Reigns getting that push :/
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Big is is the black charismatic Ryback. Short muscular guy with average in ring skills. I will say, Big E had a killer promo on SD that showed that maybe he can become something more.
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I guess it's a good thing we have the Uber charismatic Mic God that is Reigns getting that push :/
To his credit, Reigns has drastically improved on the mic. He has taken a huge step since his feud with Cena. Having said that, he can still improve in this area.
Big E’s biggest drawback is that he has simply been around for too long. If wrestlers are around for too long without having received a significant and sustained (successful) main event push of some kind, their chance of being a relevant draw for the company declines drastically. The chance of the fans really buying into them as champ also declines drastically, and the wrestler becomes perceived as a ‘transitional champ’ at best.

Tl;dr = the chances of Big E being a successful main eventer are slim to none.

If the WWE are looking for the next successful main-eventer, then they need to protect and invest in Jason Jordan. Aside from his solid abilities, Jordan is still within his ‘window’ due to being relatively new. But again, I’ve been following wrestling for over 25+ years so what do I know?
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Luigi, in how many of your 8 posts do you mention you've been following wrestling for a very long time? Do you put that shit in your resume when looking for a job? Do you tell it to the ladies in your first date?
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Alright. So 4 out of 8. But out of those 8 one is about NHL.

So 4 out of 7 posts about wrestling. Keep it up, brah.
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@Sixx: I fail to see what your posts have to do with wrestling, and I’m not interested in continuing this conversation. I would appreciate it if we could stay on topic. Thank you.
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Luigi, what they have to do with wrestling is that I'm mocking you for bragging about watching wrestling every other post.
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Oh, wait, you wanted to stay on topic. Big E has a huge ass.
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#1-wwf-fan is right. Don't change what is not broken about Big E. He's fun without being too cheesy to eliminate the chances of him being taken seriously. He can appear to all the demos, frankly. I don't think you even need to split The New Day. Keep Kofi Kingston and Xavier Woods as allies who can take the beatings from the heels that Big E eventually destroys.

I wouldn't mind Xavier Woods becoming the Lex Luthor to Big E's Superman, but it really isn't necessary, and I don't know how sustainable Woods as a main eventer is. It's not that there's anything objectively wrong with any aspect of his game -- he can talk, wrestle, looks good, is charismatic, etc. -- but he just doesn't project that heavyweight feel.
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He has been around too long to be taken seriously but a drastic overhaul and he could main event. They gave the title to Jinder, they will give it to anyone.
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JBL was on the roster 8 years before his WWE Title run. Big E has been on the main roster 5 years.
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Old 03-01-2018, 01:01 PM   #31
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He had a great promo on Smackdown vs. the Usos. I could see it.

Also, it's his Birthday. So, Happy Rusev Day Big E.
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#1-wwf-fan is right. Don't change what is not broken about Big E. He's fun without being too cheesy to eliminate the chances of him being taken seriously. He can appear to all the demos, frankly. I don't think you even need to split The New Day. Keep Kofi Kingston and Xavier Woods as allies who can take the beatings from the heels that Big E eventually destroys.

I wouldn't mind Xavier Woods becoming the Lex Luthor to Big E's Superman, but it really isn't necessary, and I don't know how sustainable Woods as a main eventer is. It's not that there's anything objectively wrong with any aspect of his game -- he can talk, wrestle, looks good, is charismatic, etc. -- but he just doesn't project that heavyweight feel.
I like the idea of them staying together while Big E has a main event push but then down the road Woods turning and being an evil genius trying to take Big E out. If it were just him challenging Big E, it wouldn't really have legs. Big E should squash him like a bug physically. Woods using his brain and leading a stable to take him out would be interesting though.
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Woods is pretty great. Just saying.
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To his credit, Reigns has drastically improved on the mic. He has taken a huge step since his feud with Cena. Having said that, he can still improve in this area.
Big E’s biggest drawback is that he has simply been around for too long. If wrestlers are around for too long without having received a significant and sustained (successful) main event push of some kind, their chance of being a relevant draw for the company declines drastically. The chance of the fans really buying into them as champ also declines drastically, and the wrestler becomes perceived as a ‘transitional champ’ at best.

Tl;dr = the chances of Big E being a successful main eventer are slim to none.

If the WWE are looking for the next successful main-eventer, then they need to protect and invest in Jason Jordan. Aside from his solid abilities, Jordan is still within his ‘window’ due to being relatively new. But again, I’ve been following wrestling for over 25+ years so what do I know?
I have been watching 25.5+ years... So what would I know.
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I dont mind him staying part of the New Day, I could just see him as a guy that comes out of nowhere at the right moment or if there was a run of injuries and someone had to step up he could.

He just has something about him, but I guess that might disappear if he was given too much limelight. You never really know unless it happens I suppose.
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Big E doesn't have the mic skills or charisma to warrant such a push. Big E is a decent mid card act but he'd flop big time as a main-eventer. The other thing to keep in mind is that for most wrestlers, they need to be pushed within a certain window of time in order to be successful main-eventers that can potentially draw.
Big E dosent have the mic skills? You can't be serious Did you not see him on SD and in general really.
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As for Big E being around too long without A push I thought about Triple H right away it took YEARS and hes not even that good.

Big E has only been in WWE for 5 yrs

Edge was in the Company since 1996 and won the World title in 2005

Mark Henry hit his stride with the Hall of Pain gimmick in 2011 he had been around since 96

Jeff Hardy Won the belt in 2009 after being with the company since 1994

I don't think you know what youre talking about Luigi.
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Jinder Mahal was in WWE for seven years before his title victory! His come third in the emotional ranking after Chris Benoit and Eddie Guerrero.

Edit: Okay he wasn't in WWE for the full seven years but whatever. I've also been watching for 25 years so I'm qualified to make mistakes.
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if you want to go back even further look at Backlund and Slaughter. I loved both of their runs.
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I have noticed people on here trying to discard what I have said in an extremely vile and abusive way, but I’ll choose to be the bigger man - again. I never once said that if someone is in the WWE for too long a time, that they can’t become a champion. What I said was that IF someone is in the WWE, and they haven’t received a (successful) significant main event push within their first two years, then their chances of being a huge draw or break away star for the company becomes significantly less. Perhaps the “2 year window” was bigger in the old days, but in the new Social media era, I would argue that the window is around 2 years. A wrestler needs to make serious inroads within their first two years otherwise their chance at being:

1) a huge draw that brings in new fans (Austin/Hogan/Rock)
2) a guy that completely owns a specific demographic (Hogan/Cena)

Becomes significantly less.....to the point of there being almost zero chance.

So yes - while guys like JBL, Jinder Mahal, etc., have been world champions, they will be seen as transitional and/or run-of-the-mill champions at best. In an absolute best case scenario, they will appeal to the IWC or the “smart mark” crowd (I.e AJ styles, Daniel Bryan, CM Punk), but their chance of being true break away stars are almost nill. Why do you think a guy like Goldberg was a far bigger star than guys like Punk, Bryan, etc? Even a guy like Batista was seen as a far bigger star despite having a fraction of the wrestling talent.

As far as Big E Langston goes, I haven’t seen him cut a serious or intense promo even one time. There is a difference between having the ability to entertain a crowd, and being able to come across as serious and legit. Having good mic skills is multidimensional and I have yet to see that from Big E. FYI - not having multi-dimensional mic skills were also a part of the reason why guys Jericho and Christian were held back during the earlier stages of their careers....although to Jericho’s credit, he greatly improved in this regard when he returned in 2007. His work between 2007-2010 was by far and away his best work...although unfortunately by that time, his “break away star potential” was long gone.
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