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Old 03-28-2016, 04:46 PM   #24161
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Old 03-28-2016, 04:47 PM   #24162
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No, you're thinking of what Russo claims. You fucking moron.
Negative. Russo takes credit for everything - good and bad. I don't think he knows the difference between which things were good and which were bad. That's HIS problem.

Ask your buddy Meltz about Cornette's role.
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Old 03-28-2016, 05:41 PM   #24163
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Can the defenders of the 3 times fired from a creative role in his last three company's please refer me to a time in which a company was thriving whilst he had a part to play in creative?
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Old 03-28-2016, 05:44 PM   #24164
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Now i get why Noids fantasy booking is so shitty, he's a cornette mark
I'm awaiting, with baited breath, for the moment he pitches the NWA invasion of Hulk Hogan's new promotion.
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Old 03-28-2016, 05:45 PM   #24165
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Negative. Russo takes credit for everything - good and bad. I don't think he knows the difference between which things were good and which were bad. That's HIS problem.

Ask your buddy Meltz about Cornette's role.
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Old 03-28-2016, 05:49 PM   #24166
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Old 03-28-2016, 05:50 PM   #24167
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He was in creative when WWE started to turn the corner against WCW, eventually overtaking them.
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He also created the Hell in a Cell, but whatever -- no bigs.
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Old 03-28-2016, 05:50 PM   #24169
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Not going to lie, I would be very keen to see him accompany Sasha to the ring for the Triple Threat. Ric Flair going batshit crazy and throwing his jacket at Snoop might actually save the entire show for me.
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Old 03-28-2016, 05:52 PM   #24170
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Sasha Banks emerges with him from a smoke-filled car.
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Old 03-28-2016, 05:53 PM   #24171
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He also created the Hell in a Cell, but whatever -- no bigs.
Referencing things that happened 19 years ago - that's definitely the way to go when defending someone accused of being out of touch and outdated.
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Old 03-28-2016, 05:55 PM   #24172
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Sasha Banks emerges with him from a smoke-filled car.
This would require Becky Lynch to have someone and knowing the WWE it would probably be Hornswoggle. Or Finn Balor playing her river dancing cousin whilst Michael Cole bangs on about how "The Demon Finn Balor just loves to have fun" and JBL shouts "YOU STILL GOT IT! YOU STILL GOT IT!"
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Old 03-28-2016, 05:59 PM   #24173
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On the issue of Cornette: You make it sound like good wrestling needs to be successful anyway, yet you're a fan of Lucha Underground? They seem to have a few seasons mapped out, but don't tell me they're *thriving* with their 217,000 viewers a week, or whatever they get. It's still got 98% on Rotten Tomatoes.

Jari, don't become a Cynick shadow where you can't separate quality from success.
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Old 03-28-2016, 06:00 PM   #24174
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Referencing things that happened 19 years ago - that's definitely the way to go when defending someone accused of being out of touch and outdated.
That's when he fucking worked for the company! That's like asking when the last great Shawn Michaels match was, someone tells you it was 2010 and you're like "six years ago, right, what a hack". Get real, banana peel.
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Old 03-28-2016, 06:01 PM   #24175
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This would require Becky Lynch to have someone and knowing the WWE it would probably be Hornswoggle. Or Finn Balor playing her river dancing cousin whilst Michael Cole bangs on about how "The Demon Finn Balor just loves to have fun" and JBL shouts "YOU STILL GOT IT! YOU STILL GOT IT!"
Shit. You know they are going to do the Becky Lynch/Hornswoggle thing, don't you?
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Old 03-28-2016, 06:04 PM   #24176
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That's when he fucking worked for the company! That's like asking when the last great Shawn Michaels match was, someone tells you it was 2010 and you're like "six years ago, right, what a hack". Get real, banana peel.
If Shawn Michaels had worked for (and been fired by) multiple companies since 2010 then yeah that would be right...
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Old 03-28-2016, 06:09 PM   #24177
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On the issue of Cornette: You make it sound like good wrestling needs to be successful anyway, yet you're a fan of Lucha Underground? They seem to have a few seasons mapped out, but don't tell me they're *thriving* with their 217,000 viewers a week, or whatever they get. It's still got 98% on Rotten Tomatoes.

Jari, don't become a Cynick shadow where you can't separate quality from success.
Yes I am a fan of Lucha Underground, a critically acclaimed TV show, that your hero has referred to as the worst thing to ever happen to the business or words to that affect, in it's infancy which I firmly believe will go on to do better and bigger things if they can score the right kind of deal with regards to how the product is broadcast.

If you're going around telling me that someone is a creative genius without being able to point out any actual sign of genius (did he create the Hell in a Cell or is that just his word cause, you know, people in the wrestling business are notoriously honest? I also could have sworn I remember HBK saying he had seen a cage match with a ceiling and he proposed that idea to Vince)
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Old 03-28-2016, 06:25 PM   #24178
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UK's Rev Pro promotion joining Evolve and Progress Wrestling in hosting qualifiers for WWE's upcoming cruiserweight tournament.

Tournament itself debuts mid-July although full results will be known by late June due to tapings.

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That the current plan for WWE’s Global Cruiserweight Series tournament is to tape the entire tournament the week of June 20th at Full Sail University. They will tape for five days.
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I haven't watched Lucha Underground, but honestly if you think about it, main stream over the years, people seem to really identify with luchadores. Hopefull they can make some moves.
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Old 03-28-2016, 06:50 PM   #24180
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He also created the Hell in a Cell, but whatever -- no bigs.
You guys not quoting posts made me actually look up wtf Snoop Dogg had to do with WWE Creative and HIAC
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Old 03-28-2016, 07:13 PM   #24182
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Snoop Dogg while probably not a creator of HIAC I could see being a huge advocate for its merits.
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Old 03-28-2016, 07:14 PM   #24183
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Jari. You literally asked for "a time in which a company was thriving whilst he was part of creative" and got an example only to claim "Nah. Too long ago." Between that and the "homophobic rant" comment it seems pretty obvious you're willing to bend truths and skew things to exactly where you want them in order to justify hating Cornette.
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The more I read Reigns' various comments about people booing him the more I think he needs to have a nice long chat with Cena about how to handle the situation. Cena's reached the point where half of the audience is booing him actually becomes part of his act, and he plays along with it and it gets to the point where the half of the crowd chanting "Cena Sucks" are doing so with a smile on their face.

Cena is good enough to roll with the punches, Reigns to this point isn't. He sticks to the script and him just carrying on and acting as though the bad reactions aren't there just makes him look more uncomfortable in his role and entirely un-organic.
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And I have to say, I want a reason to cheer Reigns. In fact I want reasons to cheer all the faces and boo all of the heels.

But at this point I think so many of the faces being booed isn't the crowd trying to be edgy as much as it is that most of the faces are written like complete assholes.
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Reigns is also WAY out of his depth. Cena was a veteran when this started happening to him and had been on top for quite some time.
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Old 03-29-2016, 03:56 AM   #24190
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And I have to say, I want a reason to cheer Reigns. In fact I want reasons to cheer all the faces and boo all of the heels.

But at this point I think so many of the faces being booed isn't the crowd trying to be edgy as much as it is that most of the faces are written like complete assholes.
And why crowds warm up to people like New Day AFTER they went full heel. They sucked ass as a face stable because that gimmick was not going to work as a face gimmick in this day and age; it reeked of being hokey and disingenuous. Playing up said hokiness and disingenuous... ness is what made them effective heels, which, in turn made them popular because it gave them personality people could get behind.

I mean the feud in ROH between Dalton Castle and Silas Young; the face and the heel dynamic there would have been totally the other way not even 15 years ago. If those two were in WWE, Vince would have still likely tried to make Dalton the heel, and only begrudgingly altered this plan when it was clearly not working because the crowds aren't instantly homophobic anymore.
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I don't know who had the bright idea "let's send the Wyatts to the New York Stock Exchange to ring the bell" this morning but it's the dumbest dann thing ever
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Old 03-29-2016, 09:49 AM   #24195
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I don't know who had the bright idea "let's send the Wyatts to the New York Stock Exchange to ring the bell" this morning but it's the dumbest dann thing ever
Makes perfect sense to me. A creepy, inhumane cult looking to destroy everything in its path. And the Wyatt Family.
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Makes perfect sense to me. A creepy, inhumane cult looking to destroy everything in its path. And the Wyatt Family.
Gives a whole new meaning to "Follow the Buzzards," does it not?
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I really hope they took the subway to get there. NYC subways are packed beyond measure during the morning commute. Can only imagine what it'd be like to see the fucking Wyatt Family in full gear pack themselves in.
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Dammit, after Wyatts/NYSE thing I now I want Raven in WCW style vignettes where it turns out Bray Wyatt is just a spoiled rich kid whose put-upon dad IRS pays for his commune, followers, and "hippy ways" at the behest of his mother who just wants her son to be happy.
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Dammit, after Wyatts/NYSE thing I now I want Raven in WCW style vignettes where it turns out Bray Wyatt is just a spoiled rich kid whose put-upon dad IRS pays for his commune, followers, and "hippy ways" at the behest of his mother who just wants her son to be happy.
which would actually be a clever storyline, all things considered. Especially if his followers didn't realize it.

And if it were someone to reveal it, it could spark something amazing. As goofy as the Raven Bueller bits were, I think it could work if played straight.
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I don't know who had the bright idea "let's send the Wyatts to the New York Stock Exchange to ring the bell" this morning but it's the dumbest dann thing ever
Too bad his dad couldn't make it put it to the real tax cheats!
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