06-12-2014, 04:14 PM | #1 | |
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DC superhero films slate revealed
Nikki Finke has cracked the upcoming announcement of DC's superhero slate on her new blog
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The reason for the delay of Bats/Supes makes sense to me. |
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06-12-2014, 04:15 PM | #2 |
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We have a DC thread.
And I don't know about that source. |
06-12-2014, 04:18 PM | #3 |
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Yeah I did a quick run of my main sites. It's highly unlikely news like this would not be reported by them. And news of 'film slates' almost always turn up bullshit. There's plenty clues in the article itself that it's bullshit, anyway.
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06-12-2014, 04:28 PM | #4 | |
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try using google dipshit
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06-12-2014, 04:30 PM | #5 |
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Gonna have to agree with Kalyx here. Anything in that article is questionable at best until a reputable source says otherwise.
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06-12-2014, 04:33 PM | #6 |
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Yeah, what I got from that second bit is that people fear her because she is ruthless and makes up RUMORS.
If she was as obsessively covered by the media as that article claims, then people would recognize the name. That alone is counter-intuitive to the point they made just a few sentences before about how no one outside of Hollywood knows the name. |
06-12-2014, 04:35 PM | #7 |
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i'm not going to argue about the source
she founded deadline.com, which is the site that breaks 90% of most news stories about film/tv (until she left, it's gone downhill since and is at the same level as the hollywood reporter and variety now). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadline.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikki_Finke |
06-12-2014, 04:38 PM | #8 |
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The article from the post you just cited also pointed out that she is known to post stories, then delete them and rewrite them whenever her information turns out bogus and that she never mentions how her original articles are often wrong.
from the same post article: There has always been lots of backlash about Finke’s vindictive style, which many have decried as bullying. Gawker calls her a “Reclusive Hollywood rage-blogger” and investigated the times she’s taken down or rewritten posts without any note that her first information was wrong. Gawker frequently writes about what it calls “her peculiar brand of journalistic thuggery.” In Polone’s Vulture column (“Apocalypse Nikki: Polone Challenges the Power of the Vengeful Finke”), he urged people to stop checking Finke’s site and sending her tips: Part of the reason that Nikki has continued to act in such an uncivil and threatening manner is that her conduct is reinforced by those in Hollywood who, terrified, choose a path of appeasement rather than confront or ignore her. The most fascinating element of the Nikki story is that people in this industry fear her and invest power in her. She has no real power: She can’t fire anyone at the studios, and she can’t influence the audience of films or TV. |
06-12-2014, 04:41 PM | #9 |
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I'm sorry, dude, I'll go with sources that's been cluing us in accurately for years before I go with some no name.
And your offense at our reaction is kinda bizarre. When people question what I report and I get vexed it's because I've been hitting up stories for years. You've been doing an eager job trying to contribute but you can't credit a dubious source and then get pissy when we're skeptical. Just not how it works. We see a more consistent source back you and this (apparent) bitch up, and I'll apologize. |
06-12-2014, 04:50 PM | #10 |
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I will apologize as well and could possibly even offer you a blumpkin as compensation.
Time will tell. |
06-12-2014, 04:58 PM | #11 |
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sorry for being grumpy Kalyx, I actually really like you.
please forgive me, I don't think you are a dipshit at all. |
06-12-2014, 05:00 PM | #12 |
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Just be cool, dude. Be cool.
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06-12-2014, 05:31 PM | #13 |
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Her story has now been picked up by other sites, all crediting her.
YahooUK: https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/dc-movie...212400385.html BleedingCool.com: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/06/...-at-comic-con/ ComicBookResourcse: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=53403 Crave: http://www.craveonline.com/film/arti...man-v-superman JoBlo: http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/wb-r...s-and-more-127 Batman-News.com: http://batman-news.com/2014/06/12/ju...dmap-revealed/ Indie Wire http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplayli...-year-20140612 Last edited by slik; 06-12-2014 at 05:47 PM. |
06-12-2014, 06:40 PM | #14 |
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One of my own trusted sites have reported it as well.
And so I apologize. Context is important, though, and this cunt is clearing going for clicks for her new site. WB/DC will of course go without comment, and even if all this is subject to change. But I do concede and apologize. However, my stance of how I treat sources remains. Better safe than sorry. Good scoop. |
06-12-2014, 06:47 PM | #15 |
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Way to hammer home the fact that you were wrong with a bit of misogyny Kalyx.
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06-12-2014, 06:57 PM | #16 |
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Damnit now I have to give slik a beej while he's on the shitter. I see why everyone thinks this lady is a bitch >_<
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06-12-2014, 06:58 PM | #17 |
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My sincerest apologies, Slik.
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And she's a cunt. An asshole. A bitch. A douchebag. That has nothing to do with how I feel about women. I'm gonna not call her a cunt cause reasons? Fuck that. |
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06-12-2014, 07:12 PM | #19 |
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There's a big difference between discrediting her for not being a legitimate journalist and calling her a cunt.
I equate that to calling someone like Perez Hilton a faggot. |
06-12-2014, 07:16 PM | #20 |
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Does it help if I say the context of my attacks are based on her actions as a journalist? Because you're not gonna get me to not use a word I wanna use. You can either accept the context at hand or go tweet about it.
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06-12-2014, 07:23 PM | #21 |
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06-12-2014, 07:27 PM | #22 |
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When Seph pointed out her antics in the links I skimmed them myself and found her to be fairly obnoxious. When i09.com reported this rumor they didn't even go a paragraph without referencing it.
Her reputation seems to precede her, and she sounds like an asshole. |
06-12-2014, 08:47 PM | #23 |
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Living in Hollywood, everyone knows who Nikki Finke is and knows she's often one to break entertainment news.
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06-12-2014, 11:42 PM | #24 |
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She is one frozen bitch
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06-13-2014, 01:31 AM | #25 |
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Whether the article is legit or not, I find it hard to believe that DC are suddenly gonna release all of these movies over the span of four years.
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06-13-2014, 02:11 AM | #26 |
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That's another good point. It just comes off as hard to believe in general.
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06-13-2014, 03:18 AM | #27 |
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Wonder Woman is too late on that schedule.
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06-13-2014, 09:16 AM | #28 |
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06-13-2014, 02:10 PM | #29 |
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This little beef has been entertaining to read. It's awesome to see Kalyx do the stand up thing and apologize. It's awesome to see Slik(or is it Silk-i may be dysliexic) apologize. This board is for great enjoyers of awesoem stuff to come and be cool
I love you all. But this is amazing news!!!! I LOVE SHAZAM!!!!!!! |
06-13-2014, 02:51 PM | #30 |
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Shazam movie has been rumoured for ages... will be happy when it is actually officially announced and gets a director/cast/etc.
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06-13-2014, 03:00 PM | #31 |
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I know a few years ago they wanted the Rock to play Black Adam in a Shazam movie that never got off the ground. Now Dwayne's said he's been cast in an unspecified role in an upcoming DC movie, and they've announced Shazam on the big screen. So, yeah, here's hoping they still want Black Adam, because he would rule in that part.
Rather shocked there's no solo Batman movie in there, but after the Nolan movies I can see why they'd want to avoid comparisons. Good to see Wonder Woman will be getting her own solo film, too, even if it won't be for another three years. And I kinda like that they're bookending the DC movie-verse so that it begins and ends with a Superman movie. Now here's hoping they get Snyder and Goyer out of the picture so these movies don't all endup as depressing slogs full of unnecessary destruction and mass death. |
06-13-2014, 04:14 PM | #32 |
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To be honest I have never understood all of the criticism about the amount of destruction in Man of Steel. It was about a young omnipotent guy new to using his powers for battle, battling a crew of vengeful warlords, with the same powers that are new to them altogether, and alien technology trying to destroy the world so they could create a new one of their own vision. That pretty much states mass death and destruction. In addition they sequel is pretty much setting itself up for Lex turning people on Superman because of "look at what these aliens have done to our world".
If anything it was kind of dumb the Avengers didn't have more death & destruction than it did, what with enormous flying worms shooting explosives, aliens on speeder bikes trying to kill anything that moved (luckily they shot like storm troopers), bombs inside a bank full of people, as well as the Hulk jumping from building to building dropping debris on the street full of people below. Yet not a single building fell, and very few if any died. In fact we wrap it all up with a heartwarming story of Tony finally becoming the hero he never wanted to be, and the series trademark corny humor of everyone in costume gathering for Shawarma at the end. |
06-13-2014, 05:28 PM | #33 |
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I think you pretty much answered your own question by describing the mood of the Avengers. Superhero stories are usually meant to be more positive in tone, usually with some cornball humor thrown in to wink at how inherently absurd the whole genre is. That goes double for an 'old school' pure-babyface character like Superman-- yeah, I get that he's inexperienced and outgunned in Man of Steel, but they didn't even really make an effort to show him saving people apart from catching the occasional soldier on his way back to the fight, and saving people is what Superman is supposed to be all about.
That said, I'm hoping they're taking the direction you suggested: Lex Luthor turns people against Superman because of the destruction of Metropolis, while using that as a distraction from whatever evil scheme he's got going, so Superman eventually teams up with Batman and Wonder Woman to redeem himself (though I'm sure he'll first have to be 'humbled' by getting smacked around by Batman because people just can't let go of The Dark Knight Returns). He keeps getting better through Justice League so by the time Man of Steel 2 finally rolls around, we get a Superman closer to the one people are familiar with, one that can stop those kinds of global catastrophes without the horrific losses, and who actually smiles and acts like a nice guy in between sessions of punching things really hard. |
06-13-2014, 06:46 PM | #34 |
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He is supposed to be all about that, but everyone has to learn and sometimes you have to learn via tragedy. Perhaps killing Zod to save that family is what turns him into the hero we all know. In the first movie he's very objective oriented: stop the terraforming machine, save the bus full of kids, fight Zod, fight the others. That whole experience, and not having to deal with anyone on his level, might show him the error of his ways. Another experience could be fighting alongside someone else that only does what he has to do to finish the big goal in Batman when Bruce endangers some citizens in order to stop Lex, forcing Clark to stop what he's doing to save them. That could show him what he will become if he continues down that path, and turns him into what we all know. Also sets up the big drama moment of tension between the two of them as they explain their motivations and why they think each other is wrong.
I believe you're right and that's kind of the way they are going though, DC's stuff is generally more dark and depressing so it probably won't be too many smiles and laughs aside from when he's with Lois. They just tend to steer towards more realistic consequences I suppose (or as realistic as something like that can be). Personally I enjoy that style more than the upbeat tone of the Marvel movies. Iron Man 3 especially was guilty of this. It was probably the worst super hero movie, other than Batman & Robin, that I have ever seen in my opinion. Not because of the Mandarin twist, or the fire breathing, or even super Pepper, but because Tony turned from depressed to sarcastic to happy go lucky to depressed at the drop of a hat and then all of a sudden became a super spy breaking into compounds. But I'm getting away from the original point, I think the nod to the Christopher Reeve movies in the last one kind of shows they recognize where they have been and hopefully what they will go back towards once Clark has grown into his own and has some hero experience under his belt. Batman likely will slap him around for a bit in the beginning just on that alone until Clark wises up and just knocks the wind out of his sails. |
06-14-2014, 09:19 AM | #35 |
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so would it be acceptable for me to call you a nigger if your actions warranted it in my mind and i wanted to? because that's essentially what you're saying here.
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06-14-2014, 02:25 PM | #36 |
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Sure. You're a regular and never showed signs of racism, so if you call me a nigger you're clearly doing so for something other than 'that black monkey kalyx'. Context weeds out shit like that. You can tell if somebody just has colorful language or if they're hating on a fucker because of factors out of their control (race, gender). Context.
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06-14-2014, 02:33 PM | #37 |
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Also where the fuck is the feelings police when I called Republicans and other TPdub members 'dick' like every other week? That's a gender specific jab. I put it in a whole thread title once. Not one person grilling me on why I'm using that attack.
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06-14-2014, 05:50 PM | #38 |
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calling a man a "dick" is like calling a white person a "cracker." doesn't carry an awful lot of weight.
also, i would never call you a "nigger." you may frustrate me as a poster often, but you're right, i'm not a racist. and no context would drive me to that point. |
06-14-2014, 06:00 PM | #39 |
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Use words how you wish, it's all good. I put more emphasis on context than anything. Whether you wanna use it or not, context will decide the usage.
I'm just not a fan of 'banned word' lists. Fuck that. I'm not sexist despite my language, not by a long shot. |
06-14-2014, 06:02 PM | #40 |
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language and how you rationalize its usage say a lot about what you are. but i suppose this is a talk for a different forum.
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