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Old 02-08-2016, 11:30 PM   #6161
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Old 02-08-2016, 11:57 PM   #6163
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You can literally look up the playoff stats for both guys and see they're basically the same. If you wanna keep a "Flacco is amazing in the playoffs and Peyton sucks" narrative going though then you've gotta ignore that and pretend "games won in New England" or some other secondary stat is the important thing to look at. Which is pretty much what Droford's doing. And it's ridiculous.

Even if you hype up Flacco's playoff performance in the Super Bowl season, you have to admit that he needed that just to be on Peyton's level as a playoff performer. It's a demonstrable fact.
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Old 02-09-2016, 11:47 AM   #6164
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You can literally look up the playoff stats for both guys and see they're basically the same. If you wanna keep a "Flacco is amazing in the playoffs and Peyton sucks" narrative going though then you've gotta ignore that and pretend "games won in New England" or some other secondary stat is the important thing to look at. Which is pretty much what Droford's doing. And it's ridiculous.

Even if you hype up Flacco's playoff performance in the Super Bowl season, you have to admit that he needed that just to be on Peyton's level as a playoff performer. It's a demonstrable fact.
Lol @ Peytons level as a playoff performer.
14-13 record
40 tds 25 its 7339 yards (272/g)
Had to win out this year to finish above .500
Take out Peytons 2 an run and he's 7-13

Joe Flacco
10-5 record
25 td 10 int 3223 yards (215/g)
Has never 1 and done in the playoffs (Manning holds the record with 9)
Take out the SB run and he's still 6-5
Conceivably Flacco with the same number of games in the playoffs could throw for more TDs, fewer interceptions and win more Super Bowls than Peyton Manning.

My only point in all of this not that Flacco is better than Manning..it's that Manning is extremely overrated QB who choked more often than not in the playoffs.
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Browns currently denying reports they lied about Johnny Manziel's season ending concussion to hide the fact he was drunk or hung over from an unknown drug as the reason why he was a mess during that week's team meetings.

Team says they have proof of him getting tested to show he had a concussion while other sources are saying other issues might have caused him to get a false positive with the tests.
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Aqib Talib currently facing the possibility of a suspension for next season for both the personal fouls he did during the Super Bowl and being dumb enough to go public saying he did it on purpose. Would fall under repeat offender status in terms of potential punishments.

Also for being dumb enough to not care what the NFL does since he got his ring.

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Lol @ Peytons level as a playoff performer.
14-13 record
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Had to win out this year to finish above .500
Take out Peytons 2 an run and he's 7-13

Joe Flacco
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25 td 10 int 3223 yards (215/g)
Has never 1 and done in the playoffs (Manning holds the record with 9)
Take out the SB run and he's still 6-5
Conceivably Flacco with the same number of games in the playoffs could throw for more TDs, fewer interceptions and win more Super Bowls than Peyton Manning.

My only point in all of this not that Flacco is better than Manning..it's that Manning is extremely overrated QB who choked more often than not in the playoffs.
So you're fine just finding ways to ignore the fact that their QB rating in the playoffs is almost identical? The one stat that literally encompasses everything they've done in the playoffs without taking out certain games just to help your case. Cool. It's pretty hopeless at this point to get anything through to you.

One more thing, since you're trying so hard to hype the "Peyton sucked when he won" thing. What were Joe Flacco's stats in that first OMGHUGE win in New England? Wanna look those up for me? Probably not. I mean, if were gonna ignore the overall stats and cherry pick what looks bad on the other guy, let's do that back and forth for a page and a half. lol
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On second though, you're the king of warping the stats to make them say what you want to say and might take me up on that offer. So let me be clear that I think that's a fucking retarded thing to do and will not ACTUALLY participate in it.
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Old 02-09-2016, 08:59 PM   #6171
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So you're fine just finding ways to ignore the fact that their QB rating in the playoffs is almost identical? The one stat that literally encompasses everything they've done in the playoffs without taking out certain games just to help your case. Cool. It's pretty hopeless at this point to get anything through to you.

One more thing, since you're trying so hard to hype the "Peyton sucked when he won" thing. What were Joe Flacco's stats in that first OMGHUGE win in New England? Wanna look those up for me? Probably not. I mean, if were gonna ignore the overall stats and cherry pick what looks bad on the other guy, let's do that back and forth for a page and a half. lol
Joe Flacco lost to the Colts in the playoffs on his 25th birthday. Up to that point then he was 3-2 in the playoffs after 2 seasons in the league. Peyton Manning through 2 seasons in the playoffs? 0-2.

He didnt even win his first playoff game until his 5th season, which was the same year in his career Flacco won 4 and the Super Bowl. Through 5 seasons? Flacco 9-4 Manning 2-4. Manning didnt win his first Super Bowl until the 8th year with a record of 7-6 needing the 4 wins to get there. This past year was Flaccos 8th season and hes 10-5.

So from 8th season on Manning was a .500 qb in the plsyoffs going 7-7 over 8 seasons including 5 1 and dones and 2 super bowl losses.

As far as his stats in the first 5 games flacco played, yeah horrible..but he has only had a QB rating less than 90 1 time (61 vs pittsburgh 2010) in the last 10 playoff games and over 100 6 times (same as Manning has had in 27 playoff games by the way). Flacco when hes made the playoffs, has gotten better. Peyton Manning, not so much..
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The best thing is, if he retires I can keep dumping on Andy Dalton who is easily a worse playoff QB..hoping he breaks mannings 1 and done record..
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Well if Flacco can actually lead his team to the playoffs again, we can see if he can actually separate himself from Manning in playoff stats. Good luck with that. Keep clinging on to whatever you need til then, buddy.
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How many divisors has Manning won? How many SuperBowls? How many times has he got to the SuperBowl? When Flacco can compete with what matters then you will have a case.
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Old 02-10-2016, 08:50 AM   #6175
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Old 02-10-2016, 08:59 AM   #6176
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I love how this argument is still going after Manning turned in one of the top-5 worst SB performances of all time
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I love how this argument is still going after Manning turned in one of the top-5 worst SB performances of all time

He did give props to the defense for leading the team all year in his post-SB speech. Seems aware of it and only said "we did what we did" when it came to offense.

Not that it matters or w/e. The W is a W is a W.
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No. You only look at wins and losses when they work AGAINST Manning. It's the way of the Manning hater.

Manning had the worst season of his career. You'd think that would put the guy who sucks so bad in the playoffs even further behind the guy who's so great in them. They're still neck-and-neck statistically. So if you wanna keep the Manning hate going , you've gotta ignore the stat comparison (or do that thing Droford does where he hypes up the positive Flacco stats and the negative Manning stats instead of just looking at the overall career playoff stats of both guys and calling it a day.)

So then you have to claim wins as the deciding factor. Which is pretty dumb in a team sport to begin with. But it can't be Super Bowl wins now because Manning has the lead in that one. I mean... Jesus Christ. lol
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No. You only look at wins and losses when they work AGAINST Manning. It's the way of the Manning hater.

Manning had the worst season of his career. You'd think that would put the guy who sucks so bad in the playoffs even further behind the guy who's so great in them. They're still neck-and-neck statistically. So if you wanna keep the Manning hate going , you've gotta ignore the stat comparison (or do that thing Droford does where he hypes up the positive Flacco stats and the negative Manning stats instead of just looking at the overall career playoff stats of both guys and calling it a day.)

So then you have to claim wins as the deciding factor. Which is pretty dumb in a team sport to begin with. But it can't be Super Bowl wins now because Manning has the lead in that one. I mean... Jesus Christ. lol
Amusing thing is you keep admiting they're neck and neck statistically in The playoffs. Only because Manning had the advantage of playing 8 more yearsbomb the playoffs (10 overall), most of which he was 1 and doning in the playoffs with Colts teams that were supposed to be super bowl contenders.

1998 3-13
1999 13-3 2 seed 1 and done
2000 10-6 6 seed 1 and done
2001 6-10
2002 10-6 5 seed 1 and done
2003 12-4 3 seed lost to NE in AFC Champ (2-1)
2004 12--4 3 seed lost to NE in Div Rd (1-1)
2005 14-2 1 seed 1 and done (started 13-0)
2006 12-4 3 seed won Super Bowl (4-0)
2007 13-3 2 seed 1 and done

The 10 years Peyton had 5 1 and dones including twice as the 2 seed and once as the #1.
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Giants released Jon Beason, Geoff Schwartz, and WILL BEATTY
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Good riddance to all of them. They're all injury prone as fuck.
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Saved about 12 million in cap space
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Old 02-10-2016, 03:33 PM   #6185
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Giants are projected to have top 5 in the league in terms of cap space.

Guys like Muhammad Wilkerson and Alshon Jeffery should be in play in the event they don't get franchise tagged.
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Old 02-10-2016, 06:31 PM   #6186
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Jesus Christ, Droford you're a broken record. How do you get called out on doing something so much and then just repeatedly do it again without realizing it? You have an insane lack of self-awareness. It's impossible to discuss anything with you. lol
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Old 02-10-2016, 06:34 PM   #6187
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Also, one guy playing more playoff games than the other doesn't make his stats look better. That's the point of looking at stats like QB rating and averages. So you can fairly compare people who haven't played the exact number of snaps/games/seasons. If I was saying "He threw more total touchdowns in the playoffs!" then you might have a point. When looking at QB rating, "But he played more games!" is a really dumb response. Math.
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I hereby motion to change Droford's user name to Dro Flacco
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Old 02-10-2016, 07:49 PM   #6189
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I could get behind the Dro Flacco change.
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Old 02-10-2016, 08:40 PM   #6190
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I agree. It can be like a heads up for any new people who try to discuss football with Droford.
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Old 02-10-2016, 08:54 PM   #6191
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At least everybody knows already Andy Dalton sucks in the playoffs wont have to jake this argument for him
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Old 02-12-2016, 12:10 AM   #6192
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ESPN Mag had a recent in-depth legnthy article on how the LA relocation process went and how heated the discussions became with issues going back 2 years. Also how Goodell lost complete control early on and couldn't stop the bickering and in-fighting between owners.

Jerry Jones got into a heated argument when he saw right through the Rams early deceptions with the owners. Rams owner implied a potential lawsuit against the NFL if they prevent his move.

At least one NFL executive likely sabotaged the Chargers/Raiders plan by leaking details of it to the Rams group. Either did it because of possible bribes and/or get more favoritism from the new owners.

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Saints owner Tom Benson posed the first question about Inglewood, asking why owners should defray the costs of the extra real estate developments -- up to $200 million in league loans available for new stadiums -- that would benefit only Kroenke. But before Kroenke and Demoff could say a word, Grubman jumped in to answer the question, explaining that Benson misunderstood the amount of money the league would contribute.

The pro-Carson owners couldn't believe that a league official appeared to be speaking on behalf of the Rams' proposal. That moment, along with persistent rumors that Grubman wanted to work for Kroenke in Los Angeles, cemented in the minds of some owners that he was an agent for Inglewood.
A lot of the older owners hated how arrogant the Rams owner was in meetings and him not caring about the health of the league. Got their revenge on him by getting the NFL to mandate another team so the Rams couldn't get the entire LA market.

The final vote was between Rams-Chargers and Chargers-Raiders with the Rams only and Rams-Raiders options dropped. Owners picked Rams-Chargers mostly to protect the Chargers even if the deal was more favorable to the Rams. A lot of owners still hated how little the Chargers got in the end and being forced to drop Carson as a spot.

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Matt Forte and the Chicago Bears have parted ways.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2530395

Welp...
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Commence angry social media outrage campaign to get every compsny he shills to fire him.
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Old 02-13-2016, 07:05 PM   #6196
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That's a known story already though.
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Old 02-13-2016, 11:12 PM   #6197
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So he did something retarded as a teenager. Who cares?
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Old 02-13-2016, 11:51 PM   #6198
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Fuck you.
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Old 02-13-2016, 11:56 PM   #6199
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I know it's not the worst thing ever associated with the colts. Cough drug abuser dies in drug abuser Owner's house cough but it's pretty bad.
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Old 02-14-2016, 07:10 AM   #6200
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Lol. STD negative relied me saying rape. He didn't rape her you fool. What he did was stupid as hell but I am not going to judge a person for something they did when they were 19 AND it was like 20 years ago.
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