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Old 01-29-2018, 10:32 AM   #1
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The Coach is back in WWE
https://www.pwinsider.com/article/11...h-wwe.html?p=1

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JONATHAN COACHMAN SIGNS WITH WWE
By Mike Johnson on 2018-01-29 10:07:00
Former WWE personality turned ESPN broadcaster Jonathan Coachman, 42 years old, has signed a deal to return to World Wrestling Entertainment, it was announced today by the company.

Coachman will return to TV tonight in Philadelphia and will be part of the Raw commentary team with Michael Cole and Corey Graves. Coachman will replace WWE Hall of Famer Booker T, who will be shifted back over to his previous role as a regular panelist on WWE Network Kickoff Shows. Booker was initially only supposed to do commentary while David Otunga was filming a role for a movie, but Otunga instead returned in a panelist role of his own.

Coachman was with WWE from 1999 through 2008, initially as an announcer before morphing into a regular on screen lackey character for Vince McMahon and Eric Bischoff, as well as an "interim" General Manager. He also worked for the company as a sideline reporter during the initial XFL season in 2001.

During his time with ESPN, which he joined in 2009, Coachman fostered a relationship between the two sides including a weekly WWE-centric segment featuring interviews with talents. Coachman was released by ESPN last year as part of their cost-cutting attempts as his contract with the cable network was not renewed.

He returned to WWE TV at the Raw 25 special last week.

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Old 01-29-2018, 10:34 AM   #2
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Old 01-29-2018, 10:57 AM   #3
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Love the Coach. Way better than Booker
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Old 01-29-2018, 11:00 AM   #4
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I don't mind Coach, he's just a bit bland. Would have preferred Da Jooce if they're sticking with 3 man booths.
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Old 01-29-2018, 11:01 AM   #5
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I thought they shit canned booker mid show last night but wasnt certain
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Old 01-29-2018, 11:28 AM   #6
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They just replaced him with Steph as planned for the womens Rumble I thought?

Hey, maybe Booker will replace Boring Saxton.
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Old 01-29-2018, 11:31 AM   #7
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Or worse, Booker and Saxton will both be on SmackDown so Graves won't have to keep doing both shows.
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Nah, can't have more than one black person on the announce team.
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Old 01-29-2018, 11:50 AM   #9
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Booker has been awful for months.

Good call WWE.
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Old 01-29-2018, 11:50 AM   #10
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Booker won't be doing commentary anymore outside of Pre-Show panels and he'll be given a 'ambassador' role for the 'E.
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Old 01-29-2018, 12:17 PM   #11
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Booker has been awful for months.

Good call WWE.
Drunk Uncle Booker and Graves/Cole enjoying commentating with him made traditionally dreadful commentary at least somewhat entertaining.

Like, WWE commentary is going to be rough no matter what because of the buzzwords-per-minute average being somewhere north of 100, so, the three dudes enjoying working together and busting each other's balls at least offers some kind of entertainment.

We'll see how their chemistry with Coach is, but I'm not hopeful.
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Old 01-29-2018, 02:01 PM   #12
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Coachman should tweet : I'm comin' for your spot nigga!
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Old 01-29-2018, 03:43 PM   #13
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i didn't realize at the time how amazing Jim Ross was and how much he made the shows for me. I can't stand the commentary these days. We were spoiled for so long. Even Vince was pretty great.
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Old 01-29-2018, 03:59 PM   #14
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The only commentary team I like is Graves/Philips/Saxton (in WWE r/n)

I can't stand Mauro and Cole/Graves are a bit much together...will gladly give The Coach a chance.
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Old 01-29-2018, 08:49 PM   #15
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I dont understand how booker is so bad at commentary. You listen to his podcast and hes fine. More than fine, hes enjoyable to listen to, but for whatever reason when hes on commentary, hes just this incoherent mess.

Maybe Vince is just constantly screaming at him like he did with foley and its messing him up.
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Old 01-29-2018, 09:28 PM   #16
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I can't stand Mauro and Cole/Graves are a bit much together...will gladly give The Coach a chance.
Coach is way better than Mauro
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Old 01-30-2018, 06:47 AM   #17
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Mauro sucks so much. Glad JBL ran him out of there. Bring back JBL to scare off that pussy
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Old 01-30-2018, 08:07 AM   #18
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The Coach was awesome as Bischoff 's lackey
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Old 01-30-2018, 08:09 AM   #19
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Plus he was part of the greatest segment in Raw history.
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Old 01-30-2018, 08:55 AM   #20
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Glad they're getting Booker out of there.
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Old 01-30-2018, 09:22 AM   #21
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I didn't watch all of RAW, but I think Coach did a good job, and was good at the Rumble.
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Coach wasn't at the Rumble?
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Wasn't a fan of Coach's return. Booker was the best part of Raw commentary.
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Always a better personality than a commentator. Still, anything's an improvement over Booker.
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Old 01-30-2018, 05:57 PM   #27
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I love Booker on commentary, but I think Coach was great last night.
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Old 01-31-2018, 02:55 AM   #28
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Yeah I hear ya @ABT. The only thing I find moderately irksome about Booker is when his voice does that thing where it gets all gravelly. I don't know if it's something he can control or not but it makes me want to just hear him in his usual tone of voice.

Coach is a nice breath of fresh air. His infusion of personality and being able to use his experience to banter and play off Graves' commentary seemed to contribute very nicely to the match calling, although I wonder how he'll try to take what Byron says and try to make his responses flow naturally from them, if that makes any sense.
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Old 01-31-2018, 12:38 PM   #29
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I like how Coach was calling out stuff that was downright silly.
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Old 01-31-2018, 06:06 PM   #30
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I didn't watch Raw, but I think a team of Mauro and Coach would be good. It feels like they would have "cred." Obviously it's not going to happen with Graves being Mr. WWE and Mauro being off the main roster, but they could do a special or something and make them the commentators for it.
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Old 02-03-2018, 01:19 PM   #31
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Hopefully he's made some improvement in his time @ ESPN, couldn't stand him when he was tasked as a heel color guy back in the day. Run down the faces for dumb reasons, play up the heels, have an orgasm every time Edge showed up, washrinserepeat
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Old 02-03-2018, 03:14 PM   #32
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That’s exactly what pretty much every heel commentator has done since day one (ish).
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Old 02-03-2018, 03:15 PM   #33
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Coach is also co hosting Busted open along with Bully Ray and Mark Henry
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Except [INSERT HEEL NAME HERE] instead of Edge.
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Hopefully he's made some improvement in his time @ ESPN, couldn't stand him when he was tasked as a heel color guy back in the day. Run down the faces for dumb reasons, play up the heels, have an orgasm every time Edge showed up, washrinserepeat
Wow you must really hate Bobby Heenan.
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Bobby Heenan was awesome. Jesse Ventura was awesome too. Both guys were fucking pioneers. Coach's Snivelly Little Tryhard Cool Guy act just never did anything for me He's no way worst ever though, I'd take him at the commentary desk over JBL's Confrontational Dad Joke Mcmahon Mouthpiece & Mark Madden's Screaming Autist characters any day.
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Old 02-04-2018, 03:46 AM   #38
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Maybe I'm zoning, but commentators have never really ruined anything for me. Some are definitely easier to listen to than others, but if the presentation is making me feel my own certain type of way, I don't get distracted by anyone else's thoughts. If that makes sense.
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Old 02-04-2018, 11:35 AM   #39
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Good commentary definitely helps with my engagement. Good commentary is like a companion piece to the action you're seeing. You don't often need it, but when it's there, it helps elevate great in-ring stuff to a real emotional rollercoaster. Michael Cole, Corey Graves, Coach, Tom Phillips or Byron Saxton aren't getting that from me. And bad commentary just helps you reflect on what a bad product it is. It makes you have to do more work to understand the dramatic context of what is happening, and it often exposes the lack of context to what is happening.

It's cool you don't need it, and I can get zoning -- I have to do that with the current commentators. But I think it's just an element of professional wrestling that is lacking today, like so much of it. It's certainly a compounding issue.

The perfect representation of this is from WrestleMania 32, when Shane did his dive off the cell, and Cole is on the call: "For the love of Mankind!" Who wants that sort of cringing to be associated with a moment like that?
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Yeah, good commentary is preferred. Just not a deal breaker.
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