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Old 10-04-2017, 03:34 PM   #41
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Old 10-04-2017, 03:34 PM   #42
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Which is what I did the math on...pretty standard...208 dates a year...
Huh. So it's the same wage for house shows as for RAW and PPVs?
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Old 10-04-2017, 03:35 PM   #43
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Huh. So it's the same wage for house shows as for RAW and PPVs?
No im just saying if he's charging 10k per thats his take home
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Old 10-04-2017, 03:42 PM   #44
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Ellsworth is the bomb
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again...

Kerwin White was a great gimmick. Chavo could have really made it work if he didn't care about his stupid heritage and dumb lineage.
I think WWE made him cut it short due to the death of his uncle.
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Old 10-04-2017, 03:45 PM   #45
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I agree...I just don't think it was the best way for a guy new to WWE to start out...not the worst either, but I can only imagine how his career might have gone had Dolph just been a singles guy from the start instead of starting as a caddy and then becoming "Nicky" in the 5-man male cheerleader group the Spirit Squad.
Well for one, if he would have evolved from that on camera into anything else, he could have probably had a better ring name than Dolph Ziggler.
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Old 10-04-2017, 03:46 PM   #46
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Ellsworth is the bomb

I think WWE made him cut it short due to the death of his uncle.
I heard he demanded to drop it after the death of his uncle.
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Old 10-04-2017, 04:01 PM   #47
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Yes and would go even farther back by saying it was a mistake signing him to an extension a couple years ago.

Ever since being a placeholder for Reigns' Survivor Series push in 2014, he's been really boring and stale. He's pretty much near a "once a year" status for anything interesting involving him.
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Old 10-04-2017, 04:31 PM   #48
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What exactly is he attempting to show the world while he's here?
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Old 10-04-2017, 05:04 PM   #49
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Curtis Axel gets on TV every week. He may or may not have potential, but WWE hasnt completely killed his potential like they have with James Ellsworth ( dog leash lol )
Big Cyris Axel fan and I'd love to see him leave WWE as well although o don't think he ever will. Seems to be their go to guy to get someone returning back into ring shape.
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Old 10-04-2017, 05:06 PM   #50
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Is Cyris Axel his Global Force name?
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Old 10-04-2017, 05:29 PM   #51
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Is Cyris Axel his Global Force name?
Lol could be. That's a big problem for him if he ever left. Cold probably just be Joe Henning or something like Axel Henning.
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Old 10-04-2017, 05:48 PM   #52
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Well for one, if he would have evolved from that on camera into anything else, he could have probably had a better ring name than Dolph Ziggler.
True.
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Old 10-04-2017, 07:07 PM   #53
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I can't believe how little I care about Dolph Ziggler now. I can understand that he's not hot or whatever, and that doesn't surprise me, but I just cannot believe how little I just fucking care about a guy who I used to think was really, really good.

It would be in his best interests to leave and remind people of what he can do. Take a break, at the very least. Just creatively. Even if he just walks along some beaches and breaks his diet for a week or something. The dude needs some sort of change of scenery.

He's not really of any use to the company anymore. You can't even debut guys against Dolph and have it matter anymore. It did shit to help Shinsuke Nakamura, and shit to help Baron Corbin. No one gets a "rub" from beating him or working with him. We've seen it all before, we know it goes nowhere, and no one cares.

Working for ROH or New Japan would freshen Dolph up a lot. It'd allow him to work the way he wants, and to show off how good he is, if he really is that good at all. People won't care overnight, but maybe they will kind of at some point eventually. He can eventually return to the WWE and be a solid upper mid-carder for them.
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Old 10-04-2017, 07:20 PM   #54
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Yeah RP, that's what I was saying, you fucking dick.
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Old 10-04-2017, 07:33 PM   #55
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Yeah RP, that's what I was saying, you fucking dick.
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Old 10-04-2017, 07:35 PM   #56
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Fuck yeah I am. At you.
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Old 10-04-2017, 07:49 PM   #57
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Clearly a racial thing here.
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Old 10-04-2017, 08:47 PM   #58
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Clearly a racial thing here.
You're not black?

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Old 10-04-2017, 09:11 PM   #59
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Been saying Dolph should leave for 3 years
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Old 10-04-2017, 09:13 PM   #60
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Dolph also can't get over without a female valet/love interest to play off of
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Old 10-04-2017, 09:27 PM   #61
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Dolph is one of my favorite in ring performers so no I don't want him to go.

Would probably be better for his career to leave for awhile though. But I'll miss seeing him on TV.
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:29 PM   #62
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Honestly, I think he has the same problem as Rhodes, he just doesn't have enough charisma.

Might find an interesting enough character and is a good athlete, but he just doesn't have any X factor. No real presence. Just fades into the background.
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:30 PM   #63
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If Rhodes were to go back tomorrow, he would be stale again before the end of the year
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:34 PM   #64
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Yet another guy who was handed the world and failed to get over.
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Gave him the World titel despite the fact he wasnt over.What more can you ask?


IWC loves to blame everyone but the worker. If my job doesnt get done its not my bosses fault.
Giving a guy a world title in this day and age is not "handing them the world". The titles mean shit because they give them to everyone in hopes that it somehow gets them over because they're too lazy and inept to do it the proper way. In other words... bad booking.

Just because a handful of guys have found a way to get over on their own in spite of it doesn't mean the booking gets a pass when someone isn't able to.
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:37 PM   #65
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:49 PM   #66
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"How Can I Miss you if you won't go away?" Jim Cornette.

Maybe the fans will realize what they had if he leaves for a bit.
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:50 PM   #67
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If your job is to get a character over and your boss gives you the shittiest, most lazily written character imaginable... kudos to you if you manage to get it over. If you don't, it's ridiculous for someone to say "He was handed the world and failed to get it over. Not his boss' fault."

And this is coming from someone who doesn't even think Dolph is really main event material. He should have been a great, OVER midcard workhorse for years. But just throwing a title that doesn't mean shit anymore on him isn't "giving him the world".
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Old 10-04-2017, 11:13 PM   #68
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Working for ROH or New Japan would freshen Dolph up a lot. It'd allow him to work the way he wants, and to show off how good he is, if he really is that good at all. People won't care overnight, but maybe they will kind of at some point eventually. He can eventually return to the WWE and be a solid upper mid-carder for them.
If money is what is driving him still, I'd say don't leave WWE at all. Chances are things won't be any better if he comes back. He'd just be losing out on money elsewhere.

If he's set money-wise and is willing to take less to actually perform in a setting closer to what he grew up wanting to be in ala Cody Rhodes... He should probably leave and not come back. Because I don't see WWE changing anytime soon.
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Old 10-04-2017, 11:27 PM   #69
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Freedom is really the biggest thing they gain from leaving WWE. They can work when and how they want. He's made money might as well enjoy the freedom and make some money while doing it.
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Anybody Thrilla is not black.
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Tell the cops that.
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When they made him the sole survivor at Survivor Series 2014 to abolish the Authority only to do NOTHING with him afterwards, that should've been Dolph's cue to bounce.
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When they made him the sole survivor at Survivor Series 2014 to abolish the Authority only to do NOTHING with him afterwards, that should've been Dolph's cue to bounce.
They had the perfect fucking chance(Nevermind that Sting stole his thunder) He was the MVP of Survivor Series he was over like crazy they couldve rode that wave but afterward nothing

I have the same feeling about Dolph That I have about Christian which is why the hell do you want to stay in a company and bust your ass when the higher ups clearly don't like you?
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Tell the cops that.
Pfft we all know cops don't go after people just for the crime of being black

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Dolph Ziggler has been around since 2009?!!!?!???

Yeah he should definitely leave for a little while. Just try not to burn bridges, and he'll be fine.
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Dolph Ziggler has been around since 2009?!!!?!???

Yeah he should definitely leave for a little while. Just try not to burn bridges, and he'll be fine.
2004 if you count OVW and his first couple of gimmicks.
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