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Old 10-29-2017, 08:11 PM   #81
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Obviously wanted to kill Asuka's cred to "humble" her or something stupid.
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Old 10-29-2017, 08:12 PM   #82
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Should have just jobbed her to Kane on Raw.
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Old 10-29-2017, 08:12 PM   #83
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I really didnt see it that way after the PPV match, but then to have a rematch the next night and it basically went the same way..maybe.
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Old 10-29-2017, 08:14 PM   #84
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I love that I can talk about giving Alexa Bliss a colonoscopy with my teeth and tongue all day long, but if DAMNinator makes a Harvey Weinstein joke, all hell breaks loose.
Yeah, exactly. Stop running from the dogs, DAMN. Tasteless and not funny though. At least your joke had teeth, RP.
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Old 10-29-2017, 08:15 PM   #85
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Obviously wanted to kill Asuka's cred to "humble" her or something stupid.
Yeah, they do that shit, but they do it with everybody. It's just how they think "popular" wrestlers wrestle now. I'm not even going to say faces, because I'm not even sure if they believe in faces and heels anymore.
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Old 10-29-2017, 08:22 PM   #86
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Damninator, don't take advice from Noid, he's worse than you and probably has a lower IQ than you.
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Old 10-29-2017, 08:23 PM   #87
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More will come. WWE needs to reel in that spending.
I've said it before but there's no way they can keep calling up people to the main roster without making cuts.
I know you need guys to put people over and guys like Hawkins to job all the time but look at Roode and Kanelis or even Nakamura to a certain extent there's no real time for character development or they spend two weeks off TV and just carry on with a feud that people have forgotten about .
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Old 10-29-2017, 08:25 PM   #88
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mike adamle still measures intelligence in IQ, which were dropped as reputable indicators a long time ago. It's probably because he's a fucking idiot.
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Old 10-29-2017, 08:26 PM   #89
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lol Completely forgot Mike Kanelis is in WWE now. What the fuck have they done with him?
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Old 10-29-2017, 08:27 PM   #90
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The aim is off on that joke, but is anyone truly offended? I think people are just jumping on you because it's weakness, DAMN. You've said sorry (as you should have), but don't grovel any more. Move on and just try to think before you try so hard to be funny.
No one actually gives a fuck.
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Old 10-29-2017, 08:29 PM   #91
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I've said it before but there's no way they can keep calling up people to the main roster without making cuts.
I know you need guys to put people over and guys like Hawkins to job all the time but look at Roode and Kanelis or even Nakamura to a certain extent there's no real time for character development or they spend two weeks off TV and just carry on with a feud that people have forgotten about .
It's harsh to say, because you don't want people to lose their jobs or anything, but wrestling is a performance business. Like anything in that field, it comes a time for people to come and go. Not everybody should get the 10 years of service medallion that was such a big thing when Taker got it in 2000.

For the product to remain sharp and stark (Ha! Remain?), you need to cycle guys and gals in and out. It doesn't need to be hostile and it doesn't necessarily mean they are not good at their jobs. Leaving the WWE might mean that they can get more varied training by working in front of different crowds, with different talent, with different styles. You can then come back and be more valuable and make more money than you ever would have made simmering where you were.
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Old 10-29-2017, 08:31 PM   #92
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lol Completely forgot Mike Kanelis is in WWE now. What the fuck have they done with him?
I completely forget that too. I wonder if Vince was sold a bill of goods on him, and got told that he's built like a Superstar, etc. Then he came in and he looks just slightly better than your average indy guy.

Maria is pregnant, so it probably ruined "plans" for him. But what plans did they really have? And why can't he just do the same things and make honey-boo-boo faces to the camera telling his gorgeous pregnant wife that he misses her?

I think they just got him and kind of have buyer's remorse.
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Old 10-29-2017, 08:33 PM   #93
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Old 10-29-2017, 08:33 PM   #94
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They should send him to NXT and repackage him
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Old 10-29-2017, 08:35 PM   #95
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lol Completely forgot Mike Kanelis is in WWE now. What the fuck have they done with him?
He's the very rare case of it not being entirely WWE's fault for his current status.

WWE only really cared for Maria but he came as a package deal and their plans to use him got derailed early because of outside reasons (Maria getting pregnant, Mike in the middle of a drug rehab).
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Old 10-29-2017, 08:37 PM   #96
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I'd just cut my losses with Mike Bennett to be honest. Thanks for coming, we'll keep paying Maria until after your baby is born, etc. He doesn't really bring anything you need. Lio Rush can fuck off too.
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Old 10-29-2017, 08:37 PM   #97
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Wait, they hired Kanellis while he was in rehab?
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Old 10-29-2017, 08:38 PM   #98
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It's harsh to say, because you don't want people to lose their jobs or anything, but wrestling is a performance business. Like anything in that field, it comes a time for people to come and go. Not everybody should get the 10 years of service medallion that was such a big thing when Taker got it in 2000.

For the product to remain sharp and stark (Ha! Remain?), you need to cycle guys and gals in and out. It doesn't need to be hostile and it doesn't necessarily mean they are not good at their jobs. Leaving the WWE might mean that they can get more varied training by working in front of different crowds, with different talent, with different styles. You can then come back and be more valuable and make more money than you ever would have made simmering where you were.
But also from the performers point of view why would you want to stay somewhere where you can't do your job properly, go somewhere else and be a star. I know money would play a part in it but some of these guys could make more money on the indies.

Also they need to use NXT more to repackage or if someone has had a lengthy injury lay off to ease them back in.
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Old 10-29-2017, 08:39 PM   #99
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They could easily just change him back to Mike Bennett and the fans would just think he's a new wrestler.
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Old 10-29-2017, 08:49 PM   #100
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Wait, they hired Kanellis while he was in rehab?
Think he took advantage of WWE's drug rehab program very early into his WWE run. Not sure if it was because he relapsed or just wanted to use WWE's vast resources to clean up for good. Only was revealed online by Maria after he was already 3-4 months into the program.

Before that most of the online speculation was the usual WWE misusing the wrestler or were already bored with the gimmick.
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But also from the performers point of view why would you want to stay somewhere where you can't do your job properly, go somewhere else and be a star. I know money would play a part in it but some of these guys could make more money on the indies.

Also they need to use NXT more to repackage or if someone has had a lengthy injury lay off to ease them back in.
I think they should send people back to NXT more often than they do. Not all the time, but occasionally it would help out both products. You're right on the point about going and making more money elsewhere. It is better for the wresting industry, in general, and that in turn helps WWE.
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Old 10-29-2017, 08:53 PM   #102
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Think he took advantage of WWE's drug rehab program very early into his WWE run. Not sure if it was because he relapsed or just wanted to use WWE's vast resources to clean up for good. Only was revealed online by Maria after he was already 3-4 months into the program.

Before that most of the online speculation was the usual WWE misusing the wrestler or were already bored with the gimmick.
I'm glad he's getting clean and whatever. Good for him. I'd be pissed if I were WWE though. I mean, Maria shouldn't have to help getting pregnant, and substance abuse issues can be indicative of larger problems beyond an individual's control, but for them to just show up and then both be out? It would require patience, so it's a good thing you don't have to deal with them immediately.
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Old 10-29-2017, 08:57 PM   #103
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Maybe they should have a storyline where Mike Kanellis relapses and Maria's baby ends up a crack baby
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Actually a better storyline would have Mike Kanellis pimp his preggo wife out for drugs. Maybe one of those guys could be the real baby daddy and we could get a feud outta that. Erick Rowan vs. Mike Kanellis sounds like a good feud there.
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Old 10-29-2017, 09:00 PM   #105
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I'm glad he's getting clean and whatever. Good for him. I'd be pissed if I were WWE though. I mean, Maria shouldn't have to help getting pregnant, and substance abuse issues can be indicative of larger problems beyond an individual's control, but for them to just show up and then both be out? It would require patience, so it's a good thing you don't have to deal with them immediately.
They really should have went to NXT first since this would have been a non-issue but guess WWE really wanted Maria that much to include a "No NXT time" in their deal.

He's been used sporadically but his gimmick is pretty much dead without Maria and without a direction for it.
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Actually a better storyline would have Mike Kanellis pimp his preggo wife out for drugs. Maybe one of those guys could be the real baby daddy and we could get a feud outta that. Erick Rowan vs. Mike Kanellis sounds like a good feud there.
That's the best idea you have ever had.
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They really should have went to NXT first since this would have been a non-issue but guess WWE really wanted Maria that much to include a "No NXT time" in their deal.

He's been used sporadically but his gimmick is pretty much dead without Maria and without a direction for it.
I dunno, I think the very signing of them and then Kanellis saying "oh yeah, I'm using your program" right away would bother me whether it was main roster or not.
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Darren Young will end up in lolTNA or whatever it's called. He can't join Ring of Honor bc he lacks honor.
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Also, can someone please tell me what is so great about Asuka? She's doesn't spit like other Jap rasslers like Muta or Tajiri. Maybe she only spits for Vince?
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Recent rumor going around the net hinted at Rhyno and Slater getting released next.
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Slater has kids. Not fair.
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Slater is so underrated don't get me wrong he's great in the role he's in I'm just saying I think he should get even more exposure.

WWE logic is weird they punish you for making noise about just sitting in the back.

Enzo is an annoying loudmouth dick and he's closing out shows.
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I heard something about a tag team. I thought it might be Gallows & Anderson, but worried that it might be Harper & Rowan. Slater & Rhyno going would not be a huge surprise. Rhyno's having a bit of a feel-good run at the moment. I'm sure he's made his money and has had the time of his life. Heath Slater is a bit sadder for me, because I do think he is a damn good worker who didn't have to go to excess in order to eventually get over. I feel like the indies wouldn't be as kind to him, as hilarious as it would be to see a bad-ass Heath Miller in New Japan.
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Also, can someone please tell me what is so great about Asuka? She's doesn't spit like other Jap rasslers like Muta or Tajiri. Maybe she only spits for Vince?
•A• She was working as a heel in NXT.

•B• She was on a year and a half undefeated streak.

People cream their jeans over Heels with long undefeated Title runs. See - Neville, Rusev.
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Slater has been main roster for 7 years now. He's done really well.
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According to the Observer, Emma's release and others seem to be leaning towards being sudden decisions by the WWE and not something planned out in advance (ex. Spring Cleaning). Also doesn't think this was done for budget cutting reasons or to make room for Ronda's expected deal.

The booking of both Asuka-Emma matches makes him lean towards this being a spur of the moment decision by the WWE. Same for Emma's response to being released.


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Damn. As obsessed as WWE is with their public image, how bad does Darren Young have to be the get released? If he were even remotely decent, he probably would have gotten a title run for publicity.
I didn't know he was still employed, honestly. Haven't seen or heard anything about him since that... whatever the fuck push that was supposed to be with Bob Backlund. He was *alright*, but not spectacular. He wasn't employed as long as JTG was... was he?

And that "publicity" thing was kind of a double edged sword. It wasn't WWE's idea, and they weren't ready for it. Things that aren't their idea are usually glossed over, ignored, or sometimes looked down upon. You'd think they'd have gotten behind it, but at the same time, it is prob'ly a good idea they didn't since it would have likely been so much rehashed Billy & Chuck nonsense.
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I heard something about a tag team. I thought it might be Gallows & Anderson, but worried that it might be Harper & Rowan. Slater & Rhyno going would not be a huge surprise. Rhyno's having a bit of a feel-good run at the moment. I'm sure he's made his money and has had the time of his life. Heath Slater is a bit sadder for me, because I do think he is a damn good worker who didn't have to go to excess in order to eventually get over. I feel like the indies wouldn't be as kind to him, as hilarious as it would be to see a bad-ass Heath Miller in New Japan.
This is going to sound like I'm shitting on the guy, but I hope Heath gets released. It did wonders for the other members of 3MB, with Jinder and McIntyre returning to championship pushes. Take time away, freshen up, and come back in a couple years without so much of the comedy act jobber stink; maybe in a badass heel sneak attack on some popular babyface champion. Let him get wins, put the freaking guy over way more than they have him counting lights, and give him a bit of a serious edge.
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