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Old 10-21-2017, 06:54 PM   #121
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F4W's Bryan Alvarez reported WWE considering using up a Lesnar date for TLC as part of their current panic plans for the event.
At this point that seems like it would be overkill. At least save something for the next outbreak, jeez.
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Old 10-21-2017, 06:55 PM   #122
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F4W's Bryan Alvarez reported WWE considering using up a Lesnar date for TLC as part of their current panic plans for the event.
Not really needed when you have Kurt Angle returning and AJ Styles in a interbrand match with Finn Balor. Should be enough to satisfy anyone really wanting to see the Shield that bought tickets and Angle and Styles probably give them more viewer's on the Network than the original plans anyway. Who would he even wrestle is the question?
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Old 10-21-2017, 07:00 PM   #123
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The way WWE is responding to this, probably Shinsuke Nakamura at this point.
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The way WWE is responding to this, probably Shinsuke Nakamura at this point.
That's about the only opponent I'd be down with, that or Samoa Joe if he's ready to return.
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Old 10-21-2017, 07:17 PM   #125
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Wouldn't surprise me if Joe ends up at the show as an extra "surprise." Wouldn't surprise me if they medically clear Bryan at this point. Got no clue what the fuck is going on.
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Apparently TLC is in Minneapolis? And they decided this was going to be a show that they didn't use Brock for?
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Apparently TLC is in Minneapolis? And they decided this was going to be a show that they didn't use Brock for?
Surprise run in by brock...but when?
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Surprise run in by brock...but when?
Balor vs. AJ to turn it into a 3 way?
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Surprise run in by brock...but when?
All hell breaks loose at the end.
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Old 10-21-2017, 10:32 PM   #131
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Actually, I say that Elias trashes Minneapolis and then Brock comes down and kills him.
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Old 10-21-2017, 10:55 PM   #132
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They've also got Axel, who I believe is getting ironically cheered? Why not put him against Jason Jordan who is getting booed? They sort of tie into the main event too. Put Axel over with the Perfect Plex in front of his grandfather.
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with all of these illnesses going on, maybe just maybe WWE will clear Daniel Bryan.
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Old 10-22-2017, 12:01 AM   #134
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Not really needed when you have Kurt Angle returning and AJ Styles in a interbrand match with Finn Balor. Should be enough to satisfy anyone really wanting to see the Shield that bought tickets and Angle and Styles probably give them more viewer's on the Network than the original plans anyway. Who would he even wrestle is the question?
Probably would be just him and Heyman addressing Jinder's challenge a day earlier than originally scheduled and eat up some time on the ppv.

Reigns being out really messed up the PPV since the original plans were for the TLC match to have a huge amount of time. Probably in the range of 45 minutes to over an hour.
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I like it but there is no way in hell that Kurt Angle is "healthier" than Daniel Bryan.
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with all of these illnesses going on, maybe just maybe WWE will clear Daniel Bryan.
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Old 10-22-2017, 12:26 AM   #137
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Maybe Lesnar comes out and beats up Curtis Axel cause lol
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It's interesting how quickly they went to AJ Styles when their backs were against the corner. It's as if they know that's the kind of stuff the fans really want to see, and when there's some emergency and they have to abandon their stupid plans for whatever reason, that's when they realize that they have no other choice but to give the fans what they want as a last resort.
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At the risk of coming across as an “unpleaseable internet fan” even further; I wouldn’t be having Finn in the paint for this match with AJ.
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At the risk of coming across as an “unpleaseable internet fan” even further; I wouldn’t be having Finn in the paint for this match with AJ.
Got to agree with you on this , makes no sense to have the demon persona. He should come out as normal with his 'Balor Club' logo on the screen.
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Also due to having a week off work I most likely will be staying up to watch this , first time I've done that in ages.
Got to agree with people's views on Jason Jordan ended up involved somehow , maybe he was helping The Shield all along and he was the one who attacked and tied up Curtis Axel backstage.
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Angle will make his entrance to get the crowd to pop, but will probably be attacked and "taken out" before the match begins/he takes any relevant bumps. At this point it'll be a 5-on-2 squash against Ambrose and Rollins, until Kane and Strowman will have some kind of disagreement and will brawl off into the crowd and disappear. This evens the playing field a bit so that the SHIELD can get some offence in. From this point either team will win but there's your match.
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That's the "smart" way of playing it, but I think people get pissed if Angle is teased and then isn't Angle. If he can't be Angle, don't use him as Angle. That's why this is so weird, because if they are protecting him, then he shouldn't be there, so I assume he's going to do something, which is scary and exciting because I never thought they planned to use him this way (otherwise they would have used him this way).

The Bryan stuff is not as ridiculous as people think too. The stuff with brain injuries is still new footing for medical science and stuff. Obviously Bryan shouldn't be wrestling -- should anyone? He's found doctors who can clear him. I'm sure a large part of the WWE keeping Bryan out of the ring is because they don't want to undercut the medical opinion of their guy, to remain conservative on the issue and partially to keep him in a role where him being the preferred choice is not going to interrupt their story telling. If they are certain Bryan wants to wrestle and he won't cave on the issue, he has the medical opinions he can do it, the idea that Vince won't get the WWE doctor to re-evaluate Bryan and suddenly he is cleared to work part-time is not completely out of the realm of possibility.

I was in the "Bryan will never wrestle for WWE camp" for a little while, but now I'm not sure at all. There's just too much grey area with grey matter. The PR stuff doesn't make sense now, because if they release him he'll go to New Japan and do harder stuff. At least under their roof they can watch him.

It's certainly an interesting time ahead, and I think it's a far bigger story than some people think. There will be a nice, meaty 5-to-10 year contract shoved under Bryan's nose sometime next year, and it could change the direction of the wrestling industry.
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It absolutely is. This company knows better, they just don't have to do what they know is better. And it's funny how when they book something people actually want to see, interest seems to go up.
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Actually, I say that Elias trashes Minneapolis and then Brock comes down and kills him.
Or Curt Hawkins.
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That's the "smart" way of playing it, but I think people get pissed if Angle is teased and then isn't Angle. If he can't be Angle, don't use him as Angle. That's why this is so weird, because if they are protecting him, then he shouldn't be there, so I assume he's going to do something, which is scary and exciting because I never thought they planned to use him this way (otherwise they would have used him this way).

The Bryan stuff is not as ridiculous as people think too. The stuff with brain injuries is still new footing for medical science and stuff. Obviously Bryan shouldn't be wrestling -- should anyone? He's found doctors who can clear him. I'm sure a large part of the WWE keeping Bryan out of the ring is because they don't want to undercut the medical opinion of their guy, to remain conservative on the issue and partially to keep him in a role where him being the preferred choice is not going to interrupt their story telling. If they are certain Bryan wants to wrestle and he won't cave on the issue, he has the medical opinions he can do it, the idea that Vince won't get the WWE doctor to re-evaluate Bryan and suddenly he is cleared to work part-time is not completely out of the realm of possibility.

I was in the "Bryan will never wrestle for WWE camp" for a little while, but now I'm not sure at all. There's just too much grey area with grey matter. The PR stuff doesn't make sense now, because if they release him he'll go to New Japan and do harder stuff. At least under their roof they can watch him.

It's certainly an interesting time ahead, and I think it's a far bigger story than some people think. There will be a nice, meaty 5-to-10 year contract shoved under Bryan's nose sometime next year, and it could change the direction of the wrestling industry.
Under any other circumstance I'd be all I can't wait till Bryan can GTFO WWE

but like you said I'd prefer him being under survalence DB is normally a smart guy but Ive noticed that he is quite stubborn and willing to be wreckless when it comes to wrestling. I'll take DB wrestling every once in a while if it means he stays healthy.
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Old 10-22-2017, 09:10 AM   #147
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That's the "smart" way of playing it, but I think people get pissed if Angle is teased and then isn't Angle. If he can't be Angle, don't use him as Angle. That's why this is so weird, because if they are protecting him, then he shouldn't be there, so I assume he's going to do something, which is scary and exciting because I never thought they planned to use him this way (otherwise they would have used him this way).
I don't think WWE would care about pissing off the people like that. Considering that this has had a week of build and not even on a televised show, I'm sure they realize there's more money to be made in it, especially from a second-tier PPV. Also, this is the same company that mega-hyped Goldberg's return only to have the match last for a minute, so I don't think they'd be worried about advertising Kurt Angle only to not have Kurt Angle perform in a full capacity.
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Old 10-22-2017, 09:10 AM   #148
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I guess we'll find out tonight. Either way, interest in this event has certainly gone up by about 726%.
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Old 10-22-2017, 09:25 AM   #149
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Hope they don't cheap out and not give Angle his pyro.
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Old 10-22-2017, 10:07 AM   #150
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Interest up 10X.
WWE gets to use Kurt w/o actually using Kurt.
We the people are dumb and will buy anything.
No pyro and no capes.
Jason Jordan would make more sense.
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This card sucks ass.

Well, never liked it when there was no world title match on a PPV.
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Old 10-22-2017, 10:27 AM   #152
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This card sucks ass.

Well, never liked it when there was no world title match on a PPV.
Some of those PPV's are the best though. Canadian Stampede, Badd Blood... well thats all I can think of right now but... still...
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According to wikipedia Canadian Stampede had Taker fight Vader for the title.
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Yep there was a title match, just very low key.
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Damn, this was back when Triple H called himself Hunter Hearst Helmsley.
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WresrlingInc was reporting that it's actually mumps, so could have a triple threat.
Damn, if it actually is mumps then I feel for them all.

I had mumps about five years ago and it's the worst I have ever felt in my life.

I felt like I was dying at times.
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