07-18-2018, 08:59 AM | #81 |
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— King T’Kofi (@TrueKofi) July 18, 2018 that... does not embed well at all, but if you click on it you'll get a statement from the New Day collectively about Hogan's reinstatement. a tl;dr is basically "he should be in the Hall of Fame because his importance to wrestling is undeniable, but on a personal level we haven't forgotten what he said and unless it becomes clear to us that he's changed in a meaningful way we're not planning on associating with him any time soon." |
07-18-2018, 09:09 AM | #82 |
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Very well said/written IMO
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07-18-2018, 09:13 AM | #83 | |
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07-18-2018, 09:34 AM | #84 |
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You guys aren't black so therefor you are not allowed to have an opinion on race.
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07-18-2018, 09:36 AM | #85 |
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07-18-2018, 09:38 AM | #86 |
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Ok Thrilla
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07-18-2018, 09:50 AM | #87 |
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how dare u
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07-18-2018, 09:52 AM | #88 |
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TDO's Tampon Salesman
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07-18-2018, 09:55 AM | #89 |
Rigged from the start
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Well, Rocky Johnson is his father. Just spitballing here, but maybe that has something to do with it.
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07-18-2018, 11:23 AM | #90 |
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Only thing about new days statement i dont get behind is basically seperating black people as "our people." That is creating and encoraging a divide/division. We need to start teaching ourselves as humans and as one people. Would have been just as easy to explain hohans acism without further dividing people.
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07-18-2018, 11:43 AM | #92 |
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We just need to all come together as one maaaannnn
Join the human race. |
07-18-2018, 12:07 PM | #93 |
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07-18-2018, 12:32 PM | #94 |
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07-18-2018, 12:42 PM | #95 |
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Vinny Mac wasn't at Extreme Rules either, very rare...
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07-18-2018, 01:06 PM | #96 |
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Maybe Vince is finally smart enough to realize he doesn't need to attend the shows since they're basically all just "throw some guys out there to have a match and draw the winner out of a hat."
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07-18-2018, 01:19 PM | #97 |
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Maybe he's working on the XFL and testing how HHH/Steph do 'running the show' without his presence
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07-18-2018, 02:10 PM | #98 |
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Let's assume that Robert of Lashley has the cojones to live promo on the issue, brotherjackDUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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07-18-2018, 05:18 PM | #99 |
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I read that Hogan is going to return with the NWO, this time it will just be "NWO White's ONLY" Not NWO Black & White.
More as this story develops. |
07-18-2018, 05:26 PM | #100 |
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07-18-2018, 05:45 PM | #101 | |
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Hogan divided people by using the language he used. Language that has been used to divide for years and years. There are fans that are struggling with a guy they saw as an entertainment hero who rejected their very being. It's a very real thing for others trying to lead through entertainment to feel the responsibility in addressing. We'll become "one people" when we stop tolerating racism and people stop crying about "white genocide" and whinging about black people standing up for themselves in a society that, sometimes just out of ignorance, treats them terribly. |
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07-18-2018, 05:48 PM | #102 |
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That was a great statement issued by The New Day. I kind of mark for them being doing so almost in a kayfabe sense too, haha. They very easily could have all released their own versions of it. As Dale said, it's a more mature "fuck you" than just about anything else. Treating Hogan with ambivalence is probably the most damaging thing you can do to his ego anyway.
The only part of the statement I disagree with is them suggesting that they are committed to providing an entertaining product. Have they been paying attention to the shit they've been doing recently? |
07-18-2018, 05:50 PM | #103 |
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I agree with everything you said - but this type of rhetoric is still turd.
We can acknowledge all the things you acknowledged without blanketing an entire race of people. We can be critical of the things you're critical of without the bile. |
07-18-2018, 05:53 PM | #104 |
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That is very sensitive, Dale.
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07-18-2018, 05:56 PM | #105 |
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#notallwhitepeople
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07-18-2018, 05:57 PM | #106 |
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It didn't hurt my feelings, I just think it hurts you intellectually. I'm not a knob, I see Twitter, I get its fashionable for "white" to be associated with negativity because sociology professors world wide indoctrinated it into a legion of undergrads (I was in some of those classes). But that is a slippery slope and a regressive mindset.
Do what you want though, I know you have good intentions. |
07-18-2018, 05:57 PM | #107 |
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07-18-2018, 05:58 PM | #108 |
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The point is very obviously that thinking in terms of "I don't see color" is a position that is almost exclusively afforded to white people because they don't have to deal with racial divides until they get finicky about a generalization on a message board. I'm not calling for whities to be rounded up into Drew Gulaks. Relax.
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07-18-2018, 06:04 PM | #110 |
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If I were crafting an actual argument for a debate, then I would possibly consider choosing my words to be more courteous to the feelings of the people they are targeted at in order to appeal to their sense of security in order to bring them with me. But I'm not crafting an argument for the purposes of a structured debate, and it's fallacious to assume that is what someone is always doing, and is what someone always ought to be doing. Seeing how it makes people emotionally perceive them is perfectly valid, and a tool that could be used for self-reflection, as opposed to simply trying to remove it from the party and reduce things to a censored and gentrified level of discourse that euphemistically discuss the contemporary urgency of the issues at hand.
Thanks for the challenge though. Fun times. |
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07-18-2018, 06:09 PM | #113 |
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07-18-2018, 06:12 PM | #115 |
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07-18-2018, 06:12 PM | #116 |
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Lol, is "SJW cuck" even an insult? If people are into that, go for it. Seems like it says more about the person throwing it around's insecurities than anything else. Kind of too specific. Your insults should be more general and feature just a little casual homophobia.
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07-18-2018, 06:16 PM | #117 |
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I get what you're saying, Dale. It's just that in this context, I don't care. If you took it to be a blanket statement -- cool. That's your deal, and you can be irritated by it. Enjoy your freedom. I'm sure there are plenty of white people who could read that and think "Well, that's not me, but I can totally get the point." It was a point about the luxury of idealism benefiting off a society that has never discriminated against them racially, which you agreed with. If you choose to get annoyed by the wording, have at it.
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07-18-2018, 08:46 PM | #118 |
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07-18-2018, 09:04 PM | #119 |
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fuck, Titus also a total class act.
Not surprising Hogan was a big weeny and coward about the whole thing. |
07-18-2018, 09:16 PM | #120 |
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Titus seems like a really good person. If only he could wrestle.
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