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Old 07-18-2018, 08:59 AM   #81
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that... does not embed well at all, but if you click on it you'll get a statement from the New Day collectively about Hogan's reinstatement. a tl;dr is basically "he should be in the Hall of Fame because his importance to wrestling is undeniable, but on a personal level we haven't forgotten what he said and unless it becomes clear to us that he's changed in a meaningful way we're not planning on associating with him any time soon."
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Old 07-18-2018, 09:09 AM   #82
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Old 07-18-2018, 09:13 AM   #83
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that... does not embed well at all, but if you click on it you'll get a statement from the New Day collectively about Hogan's reinstatement. a tl;dr is basically "he should be in the Hall of Fame because his importance to wrestling is undeniable, but on a personal level we haven't forgotten what he said and unless it becomes clear to us that he's changed in a meaningful way we're not planning on associating with him any time soon."
Kofi is v wise and that's about as cool and calm a 'fuck you' he could have given without outright saying it.
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Old 07-18-2018, 09:34 AM   #84
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You guys aren't black so therefor you are not allowed to have an opinion on race.
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Old 07-18-2018, 09:36 AM   #85
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You guys aren't black so there for you are not allowed to have an opinion on race.
I get what you're doing but it doesn't do much for the conversation.
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Old 07-18-2018, 09:55 AM   #89
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Why does everyone call The Rock black?

He's caramel.
Well, Rocky Johnson is his father. Just spitballing here, but maybe that has something to do with it.

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Old 07-18-2018, 11:23 AM   #90
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Only thing about new days statement i dont get behind is basically seperating black people as "our people." That is creating and encoraging a divide/division. We need to start teaching ourselves as humans and as one people. Would have been just as easy to explain hohans acism without further dividing people.
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Old 07-18-2018, 11:35 AM   #91
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Only thing about new days statement i dont get behind is basically seperating black people as "our people." That is creating and encoraging a divide/division. We need to start teaching ourselves as humans and as one people. Would have been just as easy to explain hohans acism without further dividing people.
The human race has been divided since the beginning because humans are tribalistic. Problem isn't with people distinguishing themselves into groups but rather viewing other groups as lesser and subjugating them.
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Old 07-18-2018, 11:43 AM   #92
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Very well said/written IMO
More eloquent than Fale:


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Old 07-18-2018, 01:19 PM   #97
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I read that Hogan is going to return with the NWO, this time it will just be "NWO White's ONLY" Not NWO Black & White.

More as this story develops.
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I read that Hogan is going to return with the NWO, this time it will just be "NWO White's ONLY" Not NWO Black & White.

More as this story develops.
Then the "NWO Red" will come and accuse NWO Whites of stealing their land.
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Only thing about new days statement i dont get behind is basically seperating black people as "our people." That is creating and encoraging a divide/division. We need to start teaching ourselves as humans and as one people. Would have been just as easy to explain hohans acism without further dividing people.
This is such a white sentiment, lol. First not acknowledging the divides imposed on people in the first place, and secondly projecting criticism for those divides when they are acknowledged.

Hogan divided people by using the language he used. Language that has been used to divide for years and years. There are fans that are struggling with a guy they saw as an entertainment hero who rejected their very being. It's a very real thing for others trying to lead through entertainment to feel the responsibility in addressing.

We'll become "one people" when we stop tolerating racism and people stop crying about "white genocide" and whinging about black people standing up for themselves in a society that, sometimes just out of ignorance, treats them terribly.
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That was a great statement issued by The New Day. I kind of mark for them being doing so almost in a kayfabe sense too, haha. They very easily could have all released their own versions of it. As Dale said, it's a more mature "fuck you" than just about anything else. Treating Hogan with ambivalence is probably the most damaging thing you can do to his ego anyway.

The only part of the statement I disagree with is them suggesting that they are committed to providing an entertaining product. Have they been paying attention to the shit they've been doing recently?
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This is such a white sentiment, lol.
I agree with everything you said - but this type of rhetoric is still turd.

We can acknowledge all the things you acknowledged without blanketing an entire race of people. We can be critical of the things you're critical of without the bile.
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That is very sensitive, Dale.
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That is very sensitive, Dale.
It didn't hurt my feelings, I just think it hurts you intellectually. I'm not a knob, I see Twitter, I get its fashionable for "white" to be associated with negativity because sociology professors world wide indoctrinated it into a legion of undergrads (I was in some of those classes). But that is a slippery slope and a regressive mindset.

Do what you want though, I know you have good intentions.
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Old 07-18-2018, 05:58 PM   #108
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The point is very obviously that thinking in terms of "I don't see color" is a position that is almost exclusively afforded to white people because they don't have to deal with racial divides until they get finicky about a generalization on a message board. I'm not calling for whities to be rounded up into Drew Gulaks. Relax.
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The point is very obviously that thinking in terms of "I don't see color" is a position that is almost exclusively afforded to white people because they don't have to deal with racial divides until they get finicky about a generalization on a message board. I'm not calling for whities to be rounded up into Drew Gulaks. Relax.
It's just as reductive and useless to the conversation as saying "That's such an SJW cuck thing to say".
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If I were crafting an actual argument for a debate, then I would possibly consider choosing my words to be more courteous to the feelings of the people they are targeted at in order to appeal to their sense of security in order to bring them with me. But I'm not crafting an argument for the purposes of a structured debate, and it's fallacious to assume that is what someone is always doing, and is what someone always ought to be doing. Seeing how it makes people emotionally perceive them is perfectly valid, and a tool that could be used for self-reflection, as opposed to simply trying to remove it from the party and reduce things to a censored and gentrified level of discourse that euphemistically discuss the contemporary urgency of the issues at hand.

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Seeing how it makes people emotionally perceive them is perfectly valid, and a tool that could be used for self-reflection, as opposed to simply trying to remove it from the party and reduce things to a censored and gentrified level of discourse that euphemistically discuss the contemporary urgency of the issues at hand.
It usually just pisses people off and makes them think you're being a smarmy little jackass lol
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It's just as reductive and useless to the conversation as saying "That's such an SJW cuck thing to say".
Until you extrapolate further. But okay.
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Until you extrapolate further. But okay.
Both can be extrapolated and argued. Neither is a great way to communicate.
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It usually just pisses people off and makes them think you're being a smarmy little jackass lol
It usually pisses off white people.
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It usually pisses off white people.
Well... you're blanketing all white people.

As a rugby player, if someone negatively blanketed all rugby players the same way you did white people, my initial reaction would be to be irritated. It's lazy as fuck.
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Both can be extrapolated and argued. Neither is a great way to communicate.
Lol, is "SJW cuck" even an insult? If people are into that, go for it. Seems like it says more about the person throwing it around's insecurities than anything else. Kind of too specific. Your insults should be more general and feature just a little casual homophobia.
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Well... you're blanketing all white people.

As a rugby player, if someone negatively blanketed all rugby players the same way you did white people, my initial reaction would be to be irritated. It's lazy as fuck.
I get what you're saying, Dale. It's just that in this context, I don't care. If you took it to be a blanket statement -- cool. That's your deal, and you can be irritated by it. Enjoy your freedom. I'm sure there are plenty of white people who could read that and think "Well, that's not me, but I can totally get the point." It was a point about the luxury of idealism benefiting off a society that has never discriminated against them racially, which you agreed with. If you choose to get annoyed by the wording, have at it.
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fuck, Titus also a total class act.

Not surprising Hogan was a big weeny and coward about the whole thing.
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Titus seems like a really good person. If only he could wrestle.
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