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View Poll Results: Who is the better wrestler? | |||
Brock Lesnar | 13 | 43.33% | |
John Cena | 17 | 56.67% | |
Voters: 30. You must log in or register to vote on this poll. |
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06-23-2017, 12:26 PM | #1 |
I am the cheese
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Better Wrestler #62
VS 3 DAYS |
06-23-2017, 12:47 PM | #2 |
MVP Mark
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Cena easily. He carried the company for a decade it seems. Brock is a legend but Cena is on Mount Rushmore.
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06-23-2017, 01:25 PM | #3 |
It's all Bullshit
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Cena is everything Hogan could have been
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06-23-2017, 01:26 PM | #4 |
TPWW's #3 Peep
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John Cena.
Will go down as legitimately one of the greatest of all time. |
06-23-2017, 01:34 PM | #5 |
I am the cheese
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Fascinating to think how much this convo has changed since the last BW despite the fact he was loathed the entire duration bewteen the two runs.
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06-23-2017, 03:28 PM | #6 |
Best Poster
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Cena. He literally carried the company for a decade.
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06-23-2017, 03:53 PM | #7 |
3 Dicks Out For Trips
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Love Lesnar. Hate Cena.
Cena wins by a mile. Not too many people who have done more in the biz. Don't know of any who have done more charitable stuff. This dude is, as much as I hate to say it, Mt Rushmore bound. |
06-23-2017, 03:58 PM | #8 |
Celestia's Left Hand
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Cena easily for a decade and some years now he has been the reason that company money.
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06-23-2017, 03:59 PM | #9 |
Celestia's Left Hand
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06-23-2017, 04:01 PM | #10 |
I am the cheese
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This forum attacked me for years for saying Cena was excellent based off his draw. It's just mind blowing to see how everyone changed their tune depsite Cena literally changing nothing...
And ftr: I voted Lesnar out of pity becasue this should be a slaughter. |
06-23-2017, 07:15 PM | #11 | |
Loque Ja
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I think his US Title run and the Open Challenge helped a lot too. Just good to see him working with younger guys and giving them a good showing. Anyways, I am voting Cena because he is a complete package both in the ring and out of it. |
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06-23-2017, 07:59 PM | #12 |
Former TPWW Royalty
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Cena.
Give Lesnar the nod in terms of wrestling skills and gimmick/character and Cena the nod in terms of promo skills, career longevity, and his stardom being way bigger both in and outside of wrestling. Voted for Cena mainly due to his longevity being the opposite of Orton and closer to Jericho in the sense of having some quality revival moments. Could probably thank the Rock since his career really turned around quality-wise from their feud and onward. Helped move him gradually away from his very stale comfort zone for matches and feuds while showing he's actually a lot better than what the WWE/Vince shoved down crowds throats for years. |
06-23-2017, 08:08 PM | #13 |
I am the cheese
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Highly debatable. Lesnar has been on, and the sole reason for, the highest viewed MMA shows of all time.
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06-23-2017, 08:35 PM | #14 |
boop/bop/beep
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oh mannnnnnnn BAH GAWD WHAT A MATCH
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06-23-2017, 08:36 PM | #15 |
boop/bop/beep
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Went with Brock because I'll watch Brock any day over Cena. Prefer his physicality and his presence.
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06-23-2017, 09:18 PM | #16 |
Former TPWW Royalty
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In terms of sports, Lesnar is definitely higher but I'd argue Cena is the bigger star in terms of the general mainstream considering his growing Hollywood career and non-WWE TV stuff.
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06-23-2017, 09:21 PM | #17 |
I am the cheese
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Has anytnimg he's done not been mediocrity at best?
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06-23-2017, 09:22 PM | #18 |
I am the cheese
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Pretty sure Mr.Nanny was a bigger success than literally everything Cena has done...and that flopped.
What he's done for wrestling cant be disputed though. |
06-23-2017, 09:44 PM | #19 |
Former TPWW Royalty
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Doesn't have any big successes yet but in terms of general mainstream presence, might be comparable to Hogan or Rock. He's been branching out with more non-WWE stuff in recent years and on top of the stuff the WWE sends him out for.
In terms of Hollywood, could end up similar to the Rock where it either takes a few years or him leaving wrestling before that takes off into something potentially bigger. Right now he's mostly taking small roles to build his resume and fit things with his WWE schedule. Lesnar beats him with the sports crowd but he's also very limited in other areas with the general mainstream. |
06-23-2017, 09:55 PM | #20 | |
Reigning Tipsters Champ!
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I will literally watch everything Lesnar does and am interested in very little of what Cena ever did. One of a kind athlete and Andre-like as a special attraction. He is special in a way Cena never was. Gonna go for Brock here too |
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06-23-2017, 10:01 PM | #21 |
Reigning Tipsters Champ!
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Also, don't see Cena as anywhere near guys like Hogan/Austin/Rock to be honest. He is talented and extremely hard working. He is funny and charismatic, but he was the biggest star of a poor era. You can't compare him to guys like Hogan and Austin who had over twice as many viewers tuning in just to see them on a weekly basis at their peak. And make no mistake, people tuned in to see them, and the same can't be said completely of Cena. He was the star, but probably not the reason the majority tuned in.
Cena insisted and insisted and was pushed and pushed and that mix of what talent he had and the push he received got him over to the extent that he is. He has been booed solidly for a large part of his run and although he is popular with kids and adults sometime booed him "for fun", his peak is nowhere near Hogan/Austin and his global appeal is nowhere near The Rock. He is talented and extremely hard working, but longevity in a poor era can't match what those guys did imo. |
06-23-2017, 10:04 PM | #22 | |
Loque Ja
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06-23-2017, 10:06 PM | #23 |
MVP Mark
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Cena hosted the ESPYs and the Nickelodeon award show. He's on commercials too. Cena seems to be everywhere now a days.
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06-23-2017, 10:17 PM | #24 |
MVP Mark
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Brock, Brock, Brock.
No reason needed. |
06-23-2017, 10:47 PM | #25 |
His name is Jeff Harvey
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John Cena has turned into one of the greatest of all time. Brock Lesnar has pretty much always been one of the greatest of all time but for a much shorter period of time. Very tough decision. Probably gonna go with Cena based on his larger body of awesome work, although he did have his fair share of stinkers too, many more than Brock, but Brock wasn't around long enough to have that many bad showings or he probably would have just as many. Will think about it.
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06-23-2017, 10:48 PM | #26 |
b/c 5 is better than 4
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Cena by a mile. If Brock had 1/10 of Cena's passion and dedication, my vote would likely change.
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06-23-2017, 11:37 PM | #27 |
Rigged from the start
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Went with Brock for the same reason as DDN and Maluco. I just find Brock to be way more watchable than Cena.
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06-24-2017, 12:17 AM | #28 |
I am the cheese
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Tight contest
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06-24-2017, 02:59 AM | #29 |
Resident drug enabler
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Feel like we already had Cena in this recently.
Anyway, Lesnar is great. Cena is/was the total package though. He somehow became a mega-star in post-2001 WWE. Which is seeming more and more like a virtually impossible task. |
06-24-2017, 07:04 AM | #30 |
boop/bop/beep
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Brock also became a mega star in post 2001 WWE
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06-24-2017, 09:57 AM | #31 |
I am the cheese
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06-24-2017, 09:59 AM | #32 |
I am the cheese
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(As always 50 rounds until eligible)
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06-24-2017, 11:42 AM | #33 |
Resident drug enabler
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Yet legends like Bobby Jaggers have not had their opportunity yet.
#GiveJaggersAChance |
06-24-2017, 03:28 PM | #34 |
Cranky Kong
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John Cena might for real be the best to ever do it.
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06-24-2017, 03:48 PM | #35 |
I am the cheese
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Thats crazy talk but we will definitely hash that out later.
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06-24-2017, 04:27 PM | #36 |
Resident drug enabler
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Yeah, I'm glad Cena's finally getting the respect he deserves within the IWC but let's not take it TOO far. lol
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06-24-2017, 04:37 PM | #37 |
I'm Something Else
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Cena.
I had been tired of his direction for years but once he did those u.s open challenges vs Cesaro,Zayn, Etc, he just made me gain respect for him. He is The Hogan of this era and i do believe that fact to be true. |
06-25-2017, 12:05 AM | #38 | |
I'm Something Else
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06-26-2017, 02:50 AM | #39 |
Quark is Less Impressed.
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Mr. Cena. Not sure how the quitter beat the Viper either.
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06-26-2017, 06:20 AM | #40 |
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Went with Brock. Cena got in on Brock's departure. No doubt he would have got there eventually, but Brock is just that league above...well, most human beings on the planet earth.
Cena might be more versatile than Brock -- I'll give him that. He's a better promo when he is in that money promo mode. He can also be as terrible as Brock when he's burying talent and missing the point of what he's actually trying to sell. Brock is arguably funnier when they do comedy too. Unintentionally or otherwise. In the ring, Cena is wonderful, but Brock is just...fucking...wow. The way he makes anyone who touches him look like a god. Cena doesn't have that quality built into him. His selling and his offence can still look a bit shit. He's great, to the point that someone in his position needs to be great, but he's not Brock great in the same spikes. And, when it comes to being a draw, Cena is controversial. Business dipped under the Cenazoic Period. The company went all-in with him, and their audience decreased. Now, of the people who are left, he does impact business positively, but that's the bed they've created by making it the John Cena Show. He and Brock are the only real stars they have, so both should be holding the World Titles in this two-belt world we live, but I actually do think that Brock is just, ultimately, that little bit more objectively valuable. Although, if it came to building a new company with either him or Cena at the center, it's a bit like Sophie's choice. Cena would turn heads, because it's John Cena in a new environment, whereas Brock has worked places like New Japan before. That being said, I wouldn't choose Cena because he's the overall better talent. |