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Old 05-05-2018, 10:45 PM   #41801
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Old 05-06-2018, 08:47 AM   #41802
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Old 05-06-2018, 03:00 PM   #41803
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I'm watching Starrcade 94... yeah I know I'm a glutton for punishment. But I love bad WCW PPV's. Anyway...


Jean Paul Levesque vs Alex Wright... wow. It's so obvious JPL would have been a big star in WCW I can't believe they didn't keep him at all costs. WCW was so stupid when it came to development... Gosh it's disappointing.
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Old 05-06-2018, 03:02 PM   #41804
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Old 05-06-2018, 04:49 PM   #41805
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Old 05-06-2018, 04:58 PM   #41806
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Old 05-06-2018, 08:26 PM   #41807
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at the rumor going around the net hinting WWE is going to reform American Alphas when Jordan comes back.

Both guys singles careers have been pretty much busts in terms of direction since WWE doesn't know what to do with Gable and Jordan's "Son of Angle" story was terrible.
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Old 05-06-2018, 08:57 PM   #41808
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Old 05-06-2018, 09:15 PM   #41809
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at the rumor going around the net hinting WWE is going to reform American Alphas when Jordan comes back.

Both guys singles careers have been pretty much busts in terms of direction since WWE doesn't know what to do with Gable and Jordan's "Son of Angle" story was terrible.

I thought Jordan was the best thing on Raw next to Strowman prior to getting injured
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Old 05-06-2018, 09:44 PM   #41810
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Yeah, Jordan was getting into the role well as a heel.

Gable's singles career just started. Hasn't started out incredible or anything, but I'd give it some time before I labeled it a bust.
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Old 05-06-2018, 10:13 PM   #41811
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Might have been a bit harsh but still stand by the Angle storyline being really terrible for him overall. Him slowly getting more comfortable as a heel was good but his heel turn was also only due to him just replacing Ambrose for the storyline with Rollins.

Sort of like how Ziggy's big push only happened because Reigns was injured or Ryback's big push because of Cena. Once both served their purpose, they got depushed badly afterwards.

With Gable, feel his singles run has been a bust because WWE doesn't know what they want to do with him. They don't give him enough time to do anything meanigful besides lose a bunch of matches. If they reform American Alphas, it would only confirm that feeling.
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Old 05-06-2018, 11:39 PM   #41812
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Sort of like how Ziggy's big push only happened because Reigns was injured.
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Old 05-06-2018, 11:49 PM   #41813
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I'm watching Starrcade 94... yeah I know I'm a glutton for punishment. But I love bad WCW PPV's. Anyway...


Jean Paul Levesque vs Alex Wright... wow. It's so obvious JPL would have been a big star in WCW I can't believe they didn't keep him at all costs. WCW was so stupid when it came to development... Gosh it's disappointing.
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Old 05-06-2018, 11:50 PM   #41814
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Which?
Survivor Series 2014.

Everything about his big showing at the event and the push afterwards was originally meant for Reigns. Its why WWE quickly pulled the plug on Ziggy afterwards since they didn't want that rub to stick to him.
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Old 05-07-2018, 12:19 AM   #41815
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Neville should have moved up to the heavyweight titles after losing to enzo. Nothing more he could do as a cruiser.
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Absolutely. He was very, very good for a while there.
"BUT HE'S JUST SO TINYYY!!!" - Vince (most likely a direct quote)

Nothing of much good comes from the "this is all you are" division except to become the champion of a show nobody watches. Just because you're subjectively "small".
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Old 05-07-2018, 12:21 AM   #41816
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Survivor Series 2014.

Everything about his big showing at the event and the push afterwards was originally meant for Reigns. Its why WWE quickly pulled the plug on Ziggy afterwards since they didn't want that rub to stick to him.
Oh, where he was the survivor that pulled the team from the brink? I pretty much forgot that happened, so their tactic worked on me at least.
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Old 05-07-2018, 12:31 AM   #41817
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Old 05-07-2018, 12:36 AM   #41818
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Eli Drake is what happens when you take the worst qualities of The Miz, throw them into the local firefighter who thinks he's a local legend, and then get them to pretend to be The Rock without any natural charisma or personality. He is abysmal. I would rather see Braun Strowman try and wrestle for an hour than listen to one Eli Drake promo.
Eli seems to have gotten somehow more generic than the Dollar Tree Rock he established himself as. The only upside I see is that he's one of the few "homegrown" guys they put much into. He's still pretty shit, but at least he's their shit than someone who made their name in WWE first with an instant rocket up their ass or got misused into near oblivion like Matt Morgan or Kazuchka Okada.
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... about as much as Asuka winning the first ever women's Royal Rumble for the honor of jobbing to Ric Flair's kid. But hey, their names will forever be on WWE's ever growing list of "first ever _____", ... unless they rub the company the wrong way in future and get scrubbed from history.
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Corbin really shouldn't be driving that.

If he does, then he has to wear a hat.

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Jessamyn Duke and Marina Shafir have reported to the Performance Center. So it looks like the Horsewomen angle is going to happen after all.
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Jessamyn Duke and Marina Shafir have reported to the Performance Center. So it looks like the Horsewomen angle is going to happen after all.
flair may have to rebuild her team, baily and sasha do not cut it anymore and beckey is on thin ice.
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Old 05-07-2018, 02:30 PM   #41827
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I think they will give the Shield a solid run together before splitting them up to 3 way each other.
I think this is the way they will go.

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I don't know about epic. I mean you know I'm a huge wrestling fan and I've never seen a Sara Del Ray match. I actually had to google who Sara Amato was. And just using me as a bar, if I don't know who that is, how would that be epic for that confrontation to take place? What I'm saying is if I don't know who Sara Amato is, how would the majority of The Universe?

I guess they could run some promo's about Ronda's training and have clips of Sara mentoring Ronda and talking about how awesome she is. Only for after Ronda gets her first singles victory to look upon the stage to see Sara. Sara walks down, they hug, hands are raised in victory and then BAM. Whatever Sara's move is. "I GAVE YOU EVERYTHING AND YOU NEVER GAVE ME ANYTHING! NOW I'M GOING TO TAKE IT ALL AWAY"... But still, she'd better be awesome because I don't know who she is.
I was using epic in a relative sense. It'd be about her presence and the idea that the woman who puts together the women's matches for them would be wrestling in one. It wouldn't be a consciously cognitive response for many people, but the only audience left is one that would contain enough people to pop at the idea and the rest are sheep that will follow.

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at the rumor going around the net hinting WWE is going to reform American Alphas when Jordan comes back.

Both guys singles careers have been pretty much busts in terms of direction since WWE doesn't know what to do with Gable and Jordan's "Son of Angle" story was terrible.
The Jason Jordan storyline is the perfect example of how nothing matters in WWE anymore. It should have killed Jordan dead, talented as he is, but they can literally just jam it down your throat week after week until you roll over and accept it.

Chad Gable has got serious babyface potential. I don't think WWE wants to see it though.
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Remember Paul London? I used to love that guy. It's a shame that his attitude and WWE didn't really mix. He was up there for a good five years though, back during a time when they didn't keep everybody around forever. He was one of the first indy darlings to take WWE up on an offer, and probably got there a few years too early, but they probably needed someone to go up in that experimental rocket and not catch on so that the CM Punks and Daniel Bryans of the world could follow.

But for a long time Paul London was in that discussion of the top talent not in WWE. He was right up there with AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, CM Punk and Bryan Danielson. There's a parallel universe where he doesn't sign with the WWE as early as he does, doesn't smack up against politics, makes better personal decisions and doesn't burn out, and probably signs with the WWE sometime this decade and ends up getting a huge push as the hottest free agent to come to WWE in a long time.
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London and Kendrick had like a 3 hour shoot interview special a year or two after they'd both left WWE. They were high as a kite and it was fucking hilarious. Kendrick called Vince a cocksucker, and London said he'd be happy when Vince was dead.

Kinda amazing Kendrick managed to work up enough goodwill to come back, really.
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All you need to do is eat humble pie. If London called Triple H and was like "Look, I was young and stupid and a frustrated struggling artist," I think the door would be open to him. I doubt they would ever push him to the moon, but they see value in Kendrick, because he's adjusted his mentality and serves a function both on-camera and behind the scenes. It's just a case of whether or not London would want to, and I think his decision to stay away is as valid as Kendrick's to go back.
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Haha, basically.
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Would be surreal if London showed up in NXT, had a great match with Adam Cole, they promoted him to the main roster and he and Kendrick had a really entertaining feud with The New Day or something, and they ended up moving tons of merch because they actually let them talk and have personalities this time, and Vince McMahon was in these photos hugging London and shit. I give it close to a 0% chance of happening, but stranger things have happened.
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Didn't London once get punished by the WWE because he accidentally smiled during the Vince limo explosion segment?

A more competent company would have been able to parlay that flub into something interesting but instead he got berated by Steph or someone else for "ruining" the segment since WWE doesn't like to flex their plans.
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God, that pissed me off at the time. London is an idiot for not being able to read the situation, but there was no storyline reason for him to do anything else. It was a case of all wrestlers being gentrified and basically falling into "stand at the top of the ramp and forget who you are feuding with" mode, and it being the wrong time to try and stand out.

I don't think London should have been surprised by the heat that he got, but there's something to the point of WWE having stupid fucking tropes that make no sense. And I think he was tarred with the brush of having "no personality" because anyone small that came from the indies is someone that obviously can't talk. I actually remember him being pretty awful at promos, haha, but he never got a chance to develop that gimmick or personality, which is there and comes out more readily throughout his performance. But he and Kendrick almost never got the chance to say anything and then it was supposed to be a surprise when they didn't get any more over than they were heading in as exciting flippy guys?
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There was an episode of Raw where Edge was feuding with Triple H, and Edge got assistance from Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch. They sent London & Kendrick, who were feuding with Cade & Murdoch at the time, out there to help run off the heels. "Cool, six-man tag" I thought. Triple H then Pedigrees Paul London as Brian Kendrick has to stand around like a fucking goof as Triple H just plays around with his buddy. Then Kendrick also got a Pedigree and Raw fucking sucked.

That was like a decade ago. I doubt Triple H has changed as much as people say he has. I think he just signs those sorts of guys now so that he can get over as the savior of wrestling, just like he tried to get over as a heel by working the internet fans too. They used to make him so insecure, haha.
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London & Kendrick and Gregory Helms were basically the SmackDown marketing over here in 2006/2007, because if you remember, SmackDown fucking sucked that year. They were all over the commercials to try and make it look exciting, haha.
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Any of you guys ever read Capitol Revolution by Tim Hornbaker? It's a book on the history of WWE that takes you from Jess McMahon and Toots Mondt founding the company to just before Vince Jr.'s national expansion. Definitely would recommend if you wanna learn about the stars of the company's early history like Antonino Rocca, Buddy Rogers, Johnny Valentine, Dr. Jerry Graham, Karl Von Hess, Killer Kowalski and Bobo Brazil. Imagine tag teams headlining and drawing like Fabulous Kangaroos, Antonino Rocca and Miguel Pérez, Graham Brothers, Tolos Brothers and Don Curtis and Mark Lewin.
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Any of you guys ever read Capitol Revolution by Tim Hornbaker? It's a book on the history of WWE that takes you from Jess McMahon and Toots Mondt founding the company to just before Vince Jr.'s national expansion. Definitely would recommend if you wanna learn about the stars of the company's early history like Antonino Rocca, Buddy Rogers, Johnny Valentine, Dr. Jerry Graham, Karl Von Hess, Killer Kowalski and Bobo Brazil. Imagine tag teams headlining and drawing like Fabulous Kangaroos, Antonino Rocca and Miguel Pérez, Graham Brothers, Tolos Brothers and Don Curtis and Mark Lewin.
Adored that book. His N.W.A book is tremendous too.
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