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Old 08-20-2007, 12:52 PM   #41
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Bills, Jets and Dolphins... one of them should step up and compete for a wildcard.

my early pick is the Phins, they have a better vertran QB this year, still a good defense and always seem to play the Patriots well.
By all accounts Green is still playing like he just got concussed last week, and their o-line is porous at best.

Personally I think the AFC will shake out something like

1) Pats
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5) Bengals
6) Broncos

Jets and Jags will push but not make it, IMHO.
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Old 08-20-2007, 04:12 PM   #42
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Old 08-20-2007, 04:18 PM   #43
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So, Mr. "not guilty" is doing a plea deal.

They're saying 6mo-1yr in jail and there is talk the NFL may hold off on a suspension while in jail since he can't play anyway and then suspend him.
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:52 PM   #44
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lol Vick. Piece of shit. MTH where u at dawwg
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Old 08-20-2007, 07:29 PM   #45
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lol Vick. Piece of shit. MTH where u at dawwg
past his bedtime..

cnn.com says they're seeking 18-36months in jail, but Vick atty is trying to get them to recomend less, the judge has the final say...

maybe Vick and Carruth can start a league in the pen.
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Old 08-20-2007, 07:32 PM   #46
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ESPN said 10-12 months in Jail. You think Vick's career is over? I would certainly hope so.
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Old 08-20-2007, 08:45 PM   #47
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Realistically the next time he gets a chance to play in the NFL he will probably be about 30-31 years old. At that point his game is going to be so out of tune, and his greatest weapon (his legs) will not be as swift as they are now.
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Old 08-20-2007, 11:21 PM   #49
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I heard prolly 3 years he will be back in the NFL. Thing is you wonder if any NFL team would actually take him.
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Old 08-20-2007, 11:23 PM   #50
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Old 08-21-2007, 12:29 AM   #51
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I heard prolly 3 years he will be back in the NFL. Thing is you wonder if any NFL team would actually take him.
We'll see if the Raiders need a QB...

or, if he still has some legs, maybe a RB....

yeah, I've heard anywhere from 10mo to 3yrs... it's really the judges call... I wouldn't be shocked if this judge makes a statement and you see Vick get the worst end of it.

Plus, figure whatever he gets in jail, add another 1yr suspension from the nfl when he gets out...

he's most likely done... but nothing would suprise me.
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Old 08-21-2007, 06:03 AM   #53
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If he admits to killing dogs he can additionally be prosecuted under Virginian state law. The others admitted to 8 dogs being killed - if he cosigns on that it equals 40 years.
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:35 AM   #54
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If he admits to killing dogs he can additionally be prosecuted under Virginian state law. The others admitted to 8 dogs being killed - if he cosigns on that it equals 40 years.
I would assume his lawyers are smart enough to have the state involved in the Federal plea deal as not to get nailed again.
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If Joey Harrington gets injured or has a medicore year then the Falcons will def draft one of the top notch QBs like Brian Brohm from Louisville (who played for Petreno) Andre Woodson off Kentucky, Colt Breenan off Hawaii, or J.D. Booty off USC.
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Old 08-21-2007, 10:43 AM   #59
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I would assume his lawyers are smart enough to have the state involved in the Federal plea deal as not to get nailed again.
From what I remember the guy (Poindexter I think his name is) was quoted a couple days ago as saying he was waiting on Vick's response to see if he could go forward with things on his terms. It's all on profootballtalk.com but I'll try and dig out the specifics later if I remember.
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"Surry County, Virginia prosecutor Gerald Poindexter tells the Atlanta Journal-Constitution that he intends to seek an indictment of Mike Vick when a grand jury convenes in September.

"The execution of these animals — and the manner in which they were executed — is startlingly offensive and demanding of prosecution," Poindexter said.

With signed statements from Quanis Phillips and Purnell Peace indicating that they, and Vick, participated in the killing of eight dogs in April 2007, all that Poindexter has to do is submit the statements to the grand jury and indictments will flow.

In fact, we're wondering whether the lawyers for Phillips and Peace realized that their clients were admitting to facts that would subject each of them to up to an additional 40 years in prison under Virginia law. Unless the plea deal included a commitment from Poindexter that there will be no state charges against Phillips or Peace, both men have potentially signed away their freedom for a big chunk of their remaining lives.

Still, we don't think that these statements from Phillips and Peace mean that Vick will automatically be indicted. In fact, we wouldn't be surprised to hear Poindexter eventually announce that the grand jury decided that Phillips and Peace were not credible witnesses, and that therefore Vick shouldn't be indicted on animal cruelty charges.

We also wouldn't be surprised, given Poindexter's past handling of this matter, to see quotes from him as early as tomorrow in which he says that he won't be seeking an indictment of Vick."

This was from before Vick pleaded guilty though, so who knows.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:05 PM   #62
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"A major factor in the final outcome of the entire Mike Vick legal imbroglio is what will happen to him under Virginia law. Though several readers have raised with us the notion of "double jeopardy," Vick has not faced animal cruelty charges under state law. The feds had no jurisdiction over such crimes, since they happened only in Virginia. For now, Vick has pleaded guilty only to conspiracy to violate several federal statutes dealing with interstate gambling and interstate dog fighting. He has never been placed in jeopardy for animal cruelty charges.

And, if the statement of facts he signs on August 27 includes an admission that he participated in the killing of the eight dogs that Quanis Phillips and Purnell Peace admitted to killing with Vick, then it will be very easy to prove that Vick violated Virginia law.

Even Gerald Poindexter can't screw that up.

Nor does he intend to.

"I intend to prosecute to the fullest extent anything I can prosecute him on in Surry County," Poindexter said on Monday.
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Old 08-21-2007, 03:20 PM   #70
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Yeah I don't know what to think about this.

Eagles have a good history of knowing when to let go of people with the exception being Jeff Garcia.

Got to wait and see how this turns out.
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Old 08-21-2007, 03:29 PM   #71
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Old 08-23-2007, 09:07 PM   #72
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:28 PM   #73
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:29 PM   #74
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Also, HOLY SHIT @ that huge hit that Packers Linebacker laid on some Jaguar dude tonight. Helmet flew off.
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:01 PM   #75
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:26 PM   #76
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Hey you guys hear about Mike Vick? I think he was involded with dog fighting and got caught or something
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:39 PM   #77
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Old 08-24-2007, 01:43 AM   #79
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Boy, Croyle really solidified his starting job today with that excellent performance. Also, wtf, Vick won't admit he gambled on the dog fights, or killed any dogs.
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Old 08-24-2007, 01:46 AM   #80
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