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Old 02-08-2016, 10:36 AM   #6121
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Peyton Manning played 7 games over his 2 SB runs and the AFC Champ game in 2007 's Pats where he had to rally to beat them late in a 38-34 win was the only game he went over 300 yards passing.
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lol The line about Flacco not helping may have been a drunken over-statement on my part. Still, the fact that you'll still try to pretend Flacco is even in the same atmosphere as Manning now that you don't even have the Super Bowl win argument to cling onto is silly. He's the greatest QB ever stats-wise and also has two rings. Joe Flacco had a fine run in the playoffs that one year. He generally kinda sucks horse cock.
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Old 02-08-2016, 11:16 AM   #6123
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Not saying he's a better QB than Manning, but Flacco throws a better deep ball than Manning ever could.
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So, make the case for/against Lynch's HoF chances

Numbers-wise he wasn't bad but I don't think he really stuck out particularly. Having the SB ring will help. I think passing the eye-test of being one of the most dominant RBs of his era helps his cause but idk if that's enough to put him in. Because sports are retarded and the media has some say in things that will hurt his cause because media types like to feel self-important so they will snub his @$$
24th all time in rushing TDs, 36th all time in rushing yardage...which also puts him at under 10k yards, so it's not a number that would really stand out.

Loved the guy but I just don't see him getting to Canton unfortunately. The ring will help as will the pretty much undeniable fact that he'd have gotten a second ring if they would've done the logical thing and hand the ball to him last year.

Statistically though he just doesn't match up with most of the more recent RBs that have gotten in. His HOF speech would be hilarious, though.
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Schefter said that among the most notable first time HOF eligibles for next year are Dawkins, McNabb, Jason Taylor, Tomlinson, and Ward.

Tomlinson has to be a first ballot guy. Has to. 4th all time in yardage, 2nd all time in TDs, and has the single-season rushing TD record which is probably never going to be broken.

Taylor will go in eventually but it'll be a wait for him, writers seem to be leery about overvaluing sacks, just ask Kevin Greene. Ward will go in at some point but T.O., Moss, Bruce, and Holt should all go in first. Dawkins deserves it but safeties are really underrepresented in the Hall, he might need to wait a couple of years but I do see him going in.

McNabb has virtually no shot. Supporters of his will cite that he has better career numbers than presumptive future HOFer Warner but Warner also has 2 MVPs and a ring. Fair or not I think it's going to be next to impossible to make the HOF as a QB without a ring unless you retire top 10 in TDs AND yards or something. And when you consider that Warner will go in and there are no less than 6 active QBs right now that appear to be locks it's going to be hard to get McNabb in.
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According to the police report, two officers were hospitalized as a result of their injuries. Dave Schratwieser of WTXF-Fox 29 reported at least one officer suffered a fractured skull, with broken ribs and a broken nose being among the other injuries. There is video of McCoy, Brinkley and the officers being thrown out of the bar, but it does not appear as though surveillance captured the incident itself.

The police report indicates the argument began over a bottle of champagne, per Gonzalez.
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Old 02-08-2016, 12:22 PM   #6127
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lol The line about Flacco not helping may have been a drunken over-statement on my part. Still, the fact that you'll still try to pretend Flacco is even in the same atmosphere as Manning now that you don't even have the Super Bowl win argument to cling onto is silly. He's the greatest QB ever stats-wise and also has two rings. Joe Flacco had a fine run in the playoffs that one year. He generally kinda sucks horse cock.
Fact is the Denver Broncos could have won last night with their towel boy playing QB. If it wasn't for 2 years out of 18 Where he had a defense that played great in the playoffs (not even the whole year in the Colts case) hed be the modern day dan Marino with all the regular season stat records and the worst playoff QB ever (7 of 14 playoff wins in just 2 years)
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Fact is the Denver Broncos could have won last night with their towel boy playing QB. If it wasn't for 2 years out of 18 Where he had a defense that played great in the playoffs (not even the whole year in the Colts case) hed be the modern day dan Marino with all the regular season stat records and the worst playoff QB ever (7 of 14 playoff wins in just 2 years)

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Is take Eli over Peyton in the playoffs
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Old 02-08-2016, 01:17 PM   #6130
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And Peyton will still [likely] be a first-ballot Hall of Fame guy.
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lol I loved that shot of Eli. You couldn't see Archie as much but what you could see of him it seemed he wasn't celebrating yet either.

Archie didn't celebrate when the Giants took the lead in Super Bowls 42 and 46 either. I think it's just a paranoia thing from having quarterbacked so many teams with shit-tier defenses. Eli himself knows from this year to not celebrate until the clock hits 0:00.
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The contrast between Eli and the kid is awesome lol
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Is take Eli over Peyton in the playoffs

Gotta get to the playoffs first.
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Old 02-08-2016, 01:55 PM   #6134
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I am in love with ESPN not even acknowledging Lynch's retirement last night.
Just wait until Highly Questionable airs. They'll probably mention it.
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Fact is the Denver Broncos could have won last night with their towel boy playing QB. If it wasn't for 2 years out of 18 Where he had a defense that played great in the playoffs (not even the whole year in the Colts case) hed be the modern day dan Marino with all the regular season stat records and the worst playoff QB ever (7 of 14 playoff wins in just 2 years)
Yeah, Flacco never had a defense or anything...

Manning has taken his team to the playoffs with historicaly bad defenses. How did Flacco fair this season with a shitty one?
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Gotta get to the playoffs first.
Exactly. Something you're pretty much guaranteed to do with Peyton Manning on your team every single year. Might even win a couple championships, too. But nah, Joe Flacco.
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P.S. Dan Marino is a fuckton better than Joe Flacco, too. Saying "if it weren't for the fact that he actually had a team around him, he'd be Dan Marino" isn't really an insult. lol
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Yeah, Flacco never had a defense or anything...

Manning has taken his team to the playoffs with historicaly bad defenses. How did Flacco fair this season with a shitty one?
The Ravens defense was ranked something like 18th thevyear they won the SB.

The Colts was ranked in the 20s but in 3 of the 4 playoff games (not inc the Pats game) they only gave up 2 offensive tds and scored a defensive TD and got 12 turnovers. Manning only had 1 TD and 6 ints in those 3 games.

In the Pats game, Manning had a 1 yard TD pass and a 1 yard run for TD. Hevthrew for 350 yards so this game is the only outlier in the 7 games he played to win thevtwo SBs.the other 6 games he played like absolute shit and got bailec out bybthe defense.
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Are you seriously trying to say Flacco is better than Manning? Or is this just a joke.
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Do you realize even with Joe Flacco's playoff performance in the year the Ravens won the Super Bowl, his playoff stats are virtually even with Manning's? 88.6-87.4 when it comes to QB rating. You really gonna cling on to that sliver of a difference as a victory for Flacco? That's really all you've got. A 1.2 difference in playoff QB rating to trump the ungodly advantage Manning has across the board elsewhere. lol
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Are you seriously trying to say Flacco is better than Manning? Or is this just a joke.
I was prepared to be fascinated by what Droford came up with to try to keep this going now that Flacco can't even claim a tie in the championship argument. I have not been disappointed.
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In a "debate" with my brother-in-law about Peyton > Eli. Quipped that Peyton is top 5 all-time. He countered with: Montana, Brady, Favre, Elway, and Marino. I was half kidding, but I'm too far in now lol
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I will probably just ignore it, but I like the top QB talk anyway.
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Do you realize even with Joe Flacco's playoff performance in the year the Ravens won the Super Bowl, his playoff stats are virtually even with Manning's? 88.6-87.4 when it comes to QB rating. You really gonna cling on to that sliver of a difference as a victory for Flacco? That's really all you've got. A 1.2 difference in playoff QB rating to trump the ungodly advantage Manning has across the board elsewhere. lol
Flacco is theonly QB to put up a qb rating over a 100 in 4 games in same post season. For lsughs, i looked up Manning..he has 6 100+ qb rating playoff games out of 27 playoff games.
Flacco has 6 himself out of 15, including a 5th straight in the playoff game vs Pitrsburgh.

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Yes, Flacco had 1 amazing run. That's awesome for him. 1 run in the playoffs does not define your entire career.
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Flacco is theonly QB to put up a qb rating over a 100 in 4 games in same post season. For lsughs, i looked up Manning..he has 6 100+ qb rating playoff games out of 27 playoff games.
Flacco has 6 himself out of 15, including a 5th straight in the playoff game vs Pitrsburgh.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...r_playoffs.htm
And even with that, I repeat, their playoff QB ratings are just over a point off. You can focus on Flacco's good playoff games and Manning's bad ones all you want. You're still ignoring the fact that overall, there's virtually no difference between the two in the playoffs. You're clinging to that barely noticeable advantage really hard to overcome Manning being insanely better in every other aspect. lol
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Yes, Flacco had 1 amazing run. That's awesome for him. 1 run in the playoffs does not define your entire career.
He was good in the playoff lastbyear as well. 2 separate 14 pt leads on the Patriots in NE..couldnt hold em..

Hey thats another thing. Flacco has two wins in New England in the playoffs plus almost beat them 2 other times..how many times has peyton won in New England in the playoffs?

0-2..in fact the only other team to beat Brady in NE in the plsyoffs was the Jets. 15-3 at home..2-2 vs the Ravens
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They made the point in the afc champ game that peyton had never won in ne and brady had never won in denver

Flaccos won both places
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And even with that, I repeat, their playoff QB ratings are just over a point off. You can focus on Flacco's good playoff games and Manning's bad ones all you want. You're still ignoring the fact that overall, there's virtually no difference between the two in the playoffs. You're clinging to that barely noticeable advantage really hard to overcome Manning being insanely better in every other aspect. lol
Only reason its close is because Peyton has played 12 more playoff games than Flacco. You give Flacco 12 more playoff games and hes got 3 Super Bowl rings instead of just 1. Plus a hell of a lot more playoff wins than Manning..
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They made the point in the afc champ game that peyton had never won in ne and brady had never won in denver

Flaccos won both places
Well throw all the actual stats out the window. CHECKMATE!
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Only reason its close is because Peyton has played 12 more playoff games than Flacco. You give Flacco 12 more playoff games and hes got 3 Super Bowl rings instead of just 1.
Go ahead and project what Flacco COULD do all you want. It doesn't mean shit. If you wanna deal in actual facts, they're neck and neck. And that's the only thing Flacco's even close to Manning in.
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Peyton Manning has 1 less playoff win in Baltimore than Joe Flacco. If Flacco didn't suck balls and was able to bring his team to the playoffs and get a first round bye at some point, Manning would have as many playoff wins in Baltimore as Joe Flacco.

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What do you guys think is going to come of Colon Kaepernick?

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Colon's definitely going to return to #2013 form when he was doing Beats by Dre adverts and busting his nuts for 50 yard touchdown runs

but this time for the jets

right? OR is chip kelly going to want to play frankenstein with him? Texans? Who else needs a qb...
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Yes. Chip Kelly will keep Kaepernick.

But deep down he'll wish he had Joe Flacco playing QB for his team.
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Peyton Manning has 1 less playoff win in Baltimore than Joe Flacco. If Flacco didn't suck balls and was able to bring his team to the playoffs and get a first round bye at some point, Manning would have as many playoff wins in Baltimore as Joe Flacco.

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Joe Flacco most road playoff wins (7) in nfl history. 2 more than ELI Manning.

Peyton Manning. 2-5 on the road.
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Kap seems like a great fit for Chip Kelly's offense, tbh
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Joe Flacco most road playoff wins (7) in nfl history. 2 more than ELI Manning.

Peyton Manning. 2-5 on the road.
Cool stats, bro.

Nearly identical playoff stats as Peyton Manning, one less championship and about a million miles away when it comes to the regular season. Stop being an asshat and cherry picking the pro-Flacco stats as if they hold special weight. They don't. You're coming up with "road wins" and "wins in New England" as points in favor of Flacco while I'm literally just talking about overall stats. You're reaching. Even you can see it.
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