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Old 06-19-2017, 11:21 PM   #441
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Like, The New Day had those belts on lock-down. Then they went over to Sheamus & Cesaro and Gallows & Anderson for the WrestleMania thing. I know that wasn't the hottest either, but The Hardys winning was the right choice, and now we're where we're at.
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Old 06-19-2017, 11:21 PM   #442
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Perfect way to end Raw to maintain the viewer base.
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Old 06-19-2017, 11:22 PM   #443
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Prick heel. Enzo is dead weight. He is the star and where the money is. Good promo for Cass standards. Repeated some lines a few times.
Thanks. Eh, it'll be interesting to see where he fits. I guess they might do Cass/Enzo for a few PPVs. I think they'll probably do a Chain Match where Enzo touches all the corners behind Cass' back to keep things spinning in between two Cass maulings. This could be the "mid-card match they put into Hell in a Cell" where Enzo actually dies. (not actually)
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Old 06-19-2017, 11:22 PM   #444
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Yeah, but when would they have done it? For as pumped up as they make the crowd, they've never really been in the position where any reign they would have had really felt like the primary story. That they've never been in that position actually makes more sense as to why Cass would betray Enzo too.
In NXT at the very least it seemed to me like the time to put the belts on them would have been the first NXT Takeover: Brooklyn...... instead of The Vaudevillains.......
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Old 06-19-2017, 11:23 PM   #445
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Old 06-19-2017, 11:24 PM   #446
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Cass is much better on the mic now than when he started.
Thought he was always pretty good in NXT. He has a more quiet and internalized delivery. He's the dude who makes the darker threats with a tinge of wit that makes you think "Oh shit, dude's gonna hurt somebody."
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In NXT at the very least it seemed to me like the time to put the belts on them would have been the first NXT Takeover: Brooklyn...... instead of The Vaudevillains.......
In retrospect, I agree, but Enzo & Cass were pretty flat. Despite it being their stomping grounds, it really did feel like it was their time. Even though Cass did the intro for Blue Pants' theme, The Vaudevillains winning felt right.
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Old 06-19-2017, 11:26 PM   #448
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Alexa slapping English and Gotch and them being too classy to resort to violence against a woman was good storytelling and it paid off in the right way at that show. They possibly could have done a similar thing with Enzo & Cass, but I dunno, I remember distinctly thinking that Enzo & Cass being lower (I think they did a warm-up match for the live crowd that they showed on NXT that week) felt right at the time.
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Enzo is pretty gold on the mic. It's just a shame it doesn't really extend to the ring. But I legit believe the dude could do this well. I'll watch the segment when it goes up.

Has Enzo ever really had the chance to show his stuff solo?
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Old 06-19-2017, 11:29 PM   #450
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Yeah, but when would they have done it? For as pumped up as they make the crowd, they've never really been in the position where any reign they would have had really felt like the primary story. That they've never been in that position actually makes more sense as to why Cass would betray Enzo too.
NXT Takeover Brooklyn was probably their best shot had the Vaudevillans not become suddenly hot at the time.

Never had any real opportunities on RAW even though they were rumored for a while about being the ones to feud and likely dethrone the New Day which never ended up happening.
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If it's at night Cable can get away with a lot more than it used to. I watch a lot of the FX Network and almost anything goes in a lot of their shows.
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So many first ever champions on the RAW roster.

1. TJP - Cruiserweight Champion.
2. Seth Rollins - NXT Champion.
3. Finn Balor - Universal Champion.
4. Rhyno and Heath Slater - Smackdown Tag Team Champions.

Just catching up on RAW, and as such, this thread, so if this has come up already... sorry, not there yet...

So anyway, is WWE just retconning champions now?

I mean, if TJP is the "first ever Cruiserweight Champion", how does that explain Sugar Shane Hurricane Gregory Helms being the longest reigning (and technically final one, since they didn't really have a division at that point)? Did someone use a TARDIS or DeLorian?!? And he was Cruiserweight Champion. I double checked that I didn't confuse it for the Light Heavyweight Championship, with which TAKA was the first.

Why bother having people hold a belt for longer than someone they want to scrub from the history books (like when, for example, Boobs Bella arbitrarily was Diva's Champ longer than AJ Lee simply because "fuck CM Punk's wife") when they can just exercise the option to pretend it never happened in the first place?
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Old 06-20-2017, 12:36 AM   #470
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Neville with his slouch of villiany looks amazing
The King of the Cruiserweights in that chair looks like a cover of a Conan graphic novel. Needs to steam HHH's PPV attire and throne and just sit on the ramp for EVERY Cruiserweight match he isn't in.
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Old 06-20-2017, 12:53 AM   #472
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Yeah, he *does* look like he's cosplaying half of Kronik.
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I don't know what it is exactly about Strow-man, but anytime I see him, I think of Von Kaiser from MTPO.
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Miz Bear and Maryse Bear?

Bears gonna make out now?
"If it doesn't work on a bear, you don't do it in the ring." -Daniel Bryan

Guess that isn't just for matches...
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Old 06-20-2017, 01:19 AM   #476
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I think it's safe to say Vince has no idea what that means.
I would guess it was slipped in there to see if he can get away with saying it.
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Raw was good tonight. Miz with Axel and Dallas should be good. Strowmans return was awsome and I wasn't expecting it. Not sure about splitting Cass and Enzo but Cass did a great promo.
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how the fuck is this uncensored on USA?
Doesn't matter the way it used to...FCC has gotten a lot more lax when it comes to previously bleeped words that had to be all the time. Now, those words aren't even bleeped out, provided it's after like 10PM EST or something.
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How does Corey Graves know more than Angle?
I like how he "knows people" and "has sources". Kinda like asking Barney Stinson what he does for a job ("Haha... please.")

I actually hope they never explain his sources. He's the one who gets word on a debut, or an NXT call up, or reveal footage. Bonus points if they give him the Michael Tarver treatment and have him appear randomly backstage talking to various people... not even the focus of the promo.

Have him occasionally excuse himself from the announce table (not every week, but often enough). He's just behind the interviewer and talent talking to a stagehand or an EMT guy or someone who doesn't have a match that week just long enough to make you be like "Why is Corey Graves...?" and before you finish thinking about the question, the segment is over.
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