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Old 05-12-2013, 01:28 PM   #1
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Can a little guy be a heel in a big man/small man feud?

Now I decided its time to take a step back from cartoons and start a serious wrestling discussion.My question for you today is over here.Now we all know some great feuds have been a small little guy as a face against a huge guy who plays an evil heel. This is pretty much a standard formula. BUT. Can it be reversed? Can you see the little guy being the heel and being the one "with the advantage" and the big guy being the face?Now this brings me to a cool big man/little man match I saw on YouTube. Here it is,In this match, D-Man is the face and Bull Dozer is the heel in the classic formula where D-Man is the little guy who is brave and goes against the evil big man, Bull Dozer. But in reality, if you watch KBW, you would see that D-Man is a bit of a "dick" while Bull Dozer is kind of a regular guy. So in a way. I think that it would be better if KBW booked D-Man as the heel and Bull Dozer as the face. But then the little guy/big guy dynamic would be ruined.Whats your thoughts???????????????????
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Old 05-12-2013, 01:32 PM   #2
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No chance I'm watching that video, but I don't think fat guys should be on trampolines.
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Old 05-12-2013, 01:46 PM   #3
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Lol I love how this goes from a serious rasslin discussion to a gem
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Old 05-12-2013, 02:19 PM   #4
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Last time I saw tits like that on a trampoline they were introduced by Adam Carolla and Jimmy Kimmel.
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Old 05-12-2013, 02:34 PM   #5
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Thought this might have been a genuine discussion. Hope Curtis and all his family get cancer.
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Old 05-12-2013, 02:50 PM   #7
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I dunno about the guys in your vid, but last year CM Punk played the great scrawny chicken shit heel while Ryback was way over as this beast of a babyface.
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Ignoring the bad attempt at promoting backyard trampoline bs, I actually like the topic.

I'd point out the Daniel Bryan vs. Big Show feud.

Also, the Jimmy Jacobs vs BJ Whitmer feud in ROH was seriously amazing, but they took it a a level bigger. Not only was Jimmy Jacobs technically the heel, and the smaller guy, but in the long term scope of the feud he was "right." He wasn't really the villain per se. He was the love struck kid being manipulated by a woman, and his best friend (Whitmer) got sick of it and turned on him.
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Old 05-12-2013, 03:06 PM   #9
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Dude Curtis, post an ERAG match, the greatest match in the history of artistic combat
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Who can forget the classic big man vs little man match between Clox and Clox's wife.
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Ignoring the bad attempt at promoting backyard trampoline bs, I actually like the topic.

I'd point out the Daniel Bryan vs. Big Show feud.

Also, the Jimmy Jacobs vs BJ Whitmer feud in ROH was seriously amazing, but they took it a a level bigger. Not only was Jimmy Jacobs technically the heel, and the smaller guy, but in the long term scope of the feud he was "right." He wasn't really the villain per se. He was the love struck kid being manipulated by a woman, and his best friend (Whitmer) got sick of it and turned on him.
Ohhh yeah, Daniel Bryan v. Big Show was hot shit.

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Who can forget the classic big man vs little man match between Clox and Clox's wife.
Lol what the hell happened to him? Did he get eaten?
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Old 05-12-2013, 03:31 PM   #13
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Jericho was doing it during his feud with Goldberg in WCW.
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while Ryback was way over as this beast of a babyface.
Those were the days. Fucking WWE.
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Wanna say Spike Dudley did something along those lines.
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Old 05-12-2013, 04:09 PM   #17
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Old 05-12-2013, 04:17 PM   #18
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Old 05-12-2013, 04:29 PM   #19
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am I the only one expecting the trampoline to collapse?
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Now I decided its time to take a step back from cartoons and start a serious wrestling discussion.My question for you today is over here.Now we all know some great feuds have been a small little guy as a face against a huge guy who plays an evil heel. This is pretty much a standard formula. BUT. Can it be reversed? Can you see the little guy being the heel and being the one "with the advantage" and the big guy being the face?Now this brings me to a cool big man/little man match I saw on YouTube. Here it is,In this match, D-Man is the face and Bull Dozer is the heel in the classic formula where D-Man is the little guy who is brave and goes against the evil big man, Bull Dozer. But in reality, if you watch KBW, you would see that D-Man is a bit of a "dick" while Bull Dozer is kind of a regular guy. So in a way. I think that it would be better if KBW booked D-Man as the heel and Bull Dozer as the face. But then the little guy/big guy dynamic would be ruined.Whats your thoughts???????????????????
I think The Grim Sweeper and Fluffy would beat those two.
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Old 05-12-2013, 08:18 PM   #23
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This ain't shit to OCW.
RIP OCW, they haven't updated in a long time. They are in central Florida so it's safe to say a sinkhole ate them all.
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This was just as bad as one of those stupid ERAG matches
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Dude, never speak ill of the ERAG match. It was ground breaking.
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Last time I saw tits like that on a trampoline they were introduced by Adam Carolla and Jimmy Kimmel.
Did you not watch the Doug Stanhope/Joe Rogan version?
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Bulldozer breaks 4th wall too much. Very unprofessional
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Old 05-13-2013, 01:37 AM   #29
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Bulldozer breaks 4th wall too much. Very unprofessional
I think you mean 'awesome and cutting edge.'
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Old 05-13-2013, 04:21 AM   #30
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Did you not watch the Doug Stanhope/Joe Rogan version?
I did. I thought that might be too obscure of a reference though.
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Old 05-13-2013, 08:18 AM   #31
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I think the match is one of the hardest to work, especially if you have a big guy who doesnt think he should bump...ever... >_>
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Old 05-13-2013, 08:49 AM   #32
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I did. I thought that might be too obscure of a reference though.
Good call, probably.
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Old 05-13-2013, 04:32 PM   #33
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Doesn't really fit the exact question posed in this thread, but I fucking loved when Spike Dudley turned über-heel and became The Boss.
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I read the title thinking of a real response and then just.... well fuck you dildo face.



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Old 05-13-2013, 05:54 PM   #35
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Old 05-17-2013, 11:42 PM   #36
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Jinder was interesting for about a minute when he was slapping Khali and such.
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Old 05-18-2013, 12:18 AM   #37
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Jinder was interesting for about a minute when he was slapping Khali and such.
Also when he was wearing suits and not wearing a turban.

It was a bit refreshing to have him as a non-stereotypical, ethnically cartoony heel and more as a disingenuous, spoiled rich boy with money/family connections to keep Khali's rickety knees in his pocket to play reluctant enforcer. Then they went overboard on the 180 because too many "rich kids" (ADR, Mahal, DiBiase) is just so damned confusing!
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Old 05-18-2013, 12:23 AM   #38
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I didn't really like the explanation given as to why Jinder Mahal could control Khali so easily. I'd have liked it more if the WWE had maybe given them a back story where they trained together and Mahal had been the only guy to be able to take Khali down -- the only guy in India who could actually beat him -- his mentor's favourite student, that sort of thing. Giving Mahal a big Bollywood-style entrance instead of slow music could have allowed the guy to have come off as cocky and confident as opposed to being an "evil foreign heel," which I think is really losing its weight in today's day and age.
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Old 10-16-2013, 12:10 PM   #39
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Is Bulldozer still a heel or did he turn face?
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Old 10-16-2013, 01:02 PM   #40
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X-Pac vs. Kane was the perfect example of small man/big man - heel/face.
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